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  • sva91
    MVP
    • Feb 2005
    • 2019

    #1

    Changeups in Retro mode are a game killer

    Il actually really like a lot about retro mode. It's very fast paced, a lot of hits, and something about that angle really bring out the player models and graphics. But what the hell is the deal with those change ups in the dirt? They are literally unhittable. Yea, they are called balls of you don't swing, but why not just let everything cross the plate? It's impossible to see trajectory from that angle. I thought the whole point was to judge pitches that cross the plate. Anyway, that's just my rant on that particular mode because now it seems like a waste. The game overall is fantastic.. But those change ups just killed that mode for me. If they keep the mode next year, hopefully thy can clean that up.
  • sva91
    MVP
    • Feb 2005
    • 2019

    #2
    Re: Changeups in Retro mode are a game killer

    Sorry guys I'm just gonna bump this one time because I'm really falling in love with this mode. The computer never throws change ups in the dirt so it's perfect user vs cpu. It would be absolutely perfect if they can just tweak the change ups going all the way across he plate. The changeups should throw hitters off balance. They would work well in this mode of done right.

    This might be the only year we get this mode so if they can try to do something about the unhittable change ups it would be so awesolme. And I just love that hitting camera. You see the player model details from head to toe.. And they just look perfect from hat angle.

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    • strawberryshortcake
      MVP
      • Sep 2009
      • 2438

      #3
      Re: Changeups in Retro mode are a game killer

      Isn't that how the original throw back games have always been with unhittable changeups hitting the dirt?
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      • BA2929
        The Designated Hitter
        • Jul 2008
        • 3342

        #4
        Re: Changeups in Retro mode are a game killer

        Originally posted by strawberryshortcake
        Isn't that how the original throw back games have always been with unhittable changeups hitting the dirt?
        Not really. I know for a fact that the original KGJrP:MLB wasn't like that. You could move the ball around a lot more in those games though, making off-speed pitches a little more obvious. In Retro Mode it's just a slower pitch due to the real life ball physics, so they had to do something to mess with the timing.
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        • Speedy
          #Ace
          • Apr 2008
          • 16143

          #5
          Re: Changeups in Retro mode are a game killer

          Originally posted by strawberryshortcake
          Isn't that how the original throw back games have always been with unhittable changeups hitting the dirt?
          I believe they were called spitballs.

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          • sva91
            MVP
            • Feb 2005
            • 2019

            #6
            Re: Changeups in Retro mode are a game killer

            That low change up is the equivalent of throwing a unhittable high fastball. The camera angle doesn't allow for us to gauge trajectory. It really is a huge cheese play. Everything else is so great though.

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            • Mercury112491
              All Star
              • Mar 2007
              • 7426

              #7
              Re: Changeups in Retro mode are a game killer

              Retro mode isn't modeled after KennGriffey Baseball it's modeled after RBI and Bases Loaded. Pitching worked the same way in those.


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              • jct32
                MVP
                • Jan 2006
                • 3437

                #8
                Re: Changeups in Retro mode are a game killer

                Those changeups were awesome in the original RBI baseball. Glad they made a comeback.
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                • bkrich83
                  Has Been
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 71577

                  #9
                  Re: Changeups in Retro mode are a game killer

                  Originally posted by Mercury112491
                  Retro mode isn't modeled after KennGriffey Baseball it's modeled after RBI and Bases Loaded. Pitching worked the same way in those.


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                  This right here. You're 1000% on the money.

                  Also can we stop throwing the term "Game Killer" around at every freaking turn please? Get some perspective.
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                  • sva91
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 2019

                    #10
                    Re: Changeups in Retro mode are a game killer

                    Originally posted by bkrich83
                    This right here. You're 1000% on the money.

                    Also can we stop throwing the term "Game Killer" around at every freaking turn please? Get some perspective.
                    It's a baseball game and it's a huge exploit regarding pitching/hitting, It's not a random occurrence that can happen once a game. Literally every pitch. And it's a mode within the actual game. I'm not hating on the actual game. I'm happy to even get to experience retro mode, but I think it's a pretty fair critique. I'm loving the Show btw, and I'm not calling out developers on anything. Just an honest opinion, and something that should maybe be considered moving forward.

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                    • bkrich83
                      Has Been
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 71577

                      #11
                      Re: Changeups in Retro mode are a game killer

                      Originally posted by sva91
                      It's a baseball game and it's a huge exploit regarding pitching/hitting, It's not a random occurrence that can happen once a game. Literally every pitch. And it's a mode within the actual game. I'm not hating on the actual game. I'm happy to even get to experience retro mode, but I think it's a pretty fair critique. I'm loving the Show btw, and I'm not calling out developers on anything. Just an honest opinion, and something that should maybe be considered moving forward.
                      Read the above responses. It's intended to be that way, for a reason. This is the way the games were that it's attempting to replicate. It's not an exploit.
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                      • bcruise
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 23274

                        #12
                        Re: Changeups in Retro mode are a game killer

                        Originally posted by bkrich83
                        Read the above responses. It's intended to be that way, for a reason. This is the way the games were that it's attempting to replicate. It's not an exploit.
                        This. Plus use of the buzzword "exploit" for a couch multiplayer mode is absurd. I mean, we can play 32 team control in Franchise and trade all of the best players in the league onto one team, and just stomp the league with it. But nobody gets in a huff over that, because it's your own universe and you can do what the hell you want with it.

                        If the mode were multiplayer online, it would probably be an issue. But it's not - it's a fun little time-waster throwback the devs put together in a day.

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                        • birthday_massacre
                          Pro
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 614

                          #13
                          Re: Changeups in Retro mode are a game killer

                          Originally posted by sva91
                          Il actually really like a lot about retro mode. It's very fast paced, a lot of hits, and something about that angle really bring out the player models and graphics. But what the hell is the deal with those change ups in the dirt? They are literally unhittable. Yea, they are called balls of you don't swing, but why not just let everything cross the plate? It's impossible to see trajectory from that angle. I thought the whole point was to judge pitches that cross the plate. Anyway, that's just my rant on that particular mode because now it seems like a waste. The game overall is fantastic.. But those change ups just killed that mode for me. If they keep the mode next year, hopefully thy can clean that up.

                          That is how the classic games were with that pitch. It was always a great strike out pitch. I remember doing it all the time in baseball stars on NES

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                          • Seltaeb9091
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 153

                            #14
                            Re: Changeups in Retro mode are a game killer

                            Changeups in the dirt killed you in RBI Baseball.
                            Changeups in the dirt killed you in Baseball Stars.
                            Changeups in the dirt killed you in Baseball Simulator 1.000.
                            Changeups in the dirt killed you in Bad News Baseball.
                            Changeups in the dirt will still kill you in Retro Mode.

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                            • flamablancagaming
                              Just started!
                              • Apr 2017
                              • 2

                              #15
                              Re: Changeups in Retro mode are a game killer

                              Originally posted by Seltaeb9091
                              Changeups in the dirt killed you in RBI Baseball.
                              Changeups in the dirt killed you in Baseball Stars.
                              Changeups in the dirt killed you in Baseball Simulator 1.000.
                              Changeups in the dirt killed you in Bad News Baseball.
                              Changeups in the dirt will still kill you in Retro Mode.

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                              Yes! Super Baseball Simulator 1000 was where it was at! I grew up on that game before the Griffey games came out.

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