Giving up walks

[loganmorrison1]

I seem to always have my pitchers with unrealistic walk totals and high strike out numbers. I use classic pitching, which to my understanding, is the mode that considers ratings as the main factor. I don't throw pitches right down the plate when I'm down in the count. I'm playing Allstar with default sliders. I've played around with control sliders before and to me lower them just increased meatballs. The only time I've had any success with realistic walk numbers was when I used QC. However, this year QC is broken. I love everything about this game, but the walks issue always causes me to stop playing when I get to midpoint in the season and I have a team avg of about 1 per game. Any suggestions


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[djep]

Re: Giving up walks

I don't use classic pitching but I've always found that the best way to get a realistic number of user walks is to jack up the sliders for AI hitting - Contact slider, solid hits, power and timing are all up a couple of clicks for me. Don't mess with Human sliders when trying to tune your pitching.

When I watch other people play I realize how people mostly work in the zone when pitching. They'll work the inner half and the outer half but there's not enough fear of missing in the heart of the plate so they don't work the extreme edges. You should tweak those sliders until you get to the point where you are getting clobbered even on pitches off the plate at times.

If you are classic pitching why don't you try playing on Legend or HoF?

[countryboy]

Re: Giving up walks

I seem to always have my pitchers with unrealistic walk totals and high strike out numbers. I use classic pitching, which to my understanding, is the mode that considers ratings as the main factor. I don't throw pitches right down the plate when I'm down in the count. I'm playing Allstar with default sliders. I've played around with control sliders before and to me lower them just increased meatballs. The only time I've had any success with realistic walk numbers was when I used QC. However, this year QC is broken. I love everything about this game, but the walks issue always causes me to stop playing when I get to midpoint in the season and I have a team avg of about 1 per game. Any suggestions


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Since you've tried sliders and that didn't work, my suggestions would be:

A) Up the difficulty to Hall of Fame

or

B) Switch to a different pitching mechanic.

I personally use Meter pitching (Hall of Fame difficulty) and I give up unintended walks.

[Armor and Sword]

Re: Giving up walks

Something I am trying out this weekend in my OSFM (man I am giddy about that) 2017 Yankees franchise spring training is a suggestion I got from Josh1977.

I am turning off the controller vibration (coupled with no ball marker which I do not use anymore) so I won't know when I am slightly or fully aiming out of the zone. This may lead to not only more user issues walks but also a much higher challenge vs the CPU on All-Star.

I tried HOF pitching last year on Classic and found it to be unforgiving. Like to the point of no matter who was on the bump Ace, scrub, (it did not matter) I would get lit up most of the time.

I am going to try this out and report back in my slider thread on it. Classic pitching of course.

[p00p1]

Re: Giving up walks

I'm using quick counts too, what is broken?

[JayD]

Re: Giving up walks

This may sound reversed but I play with the pitch ball marker trail on. This allows me to pick a spot outside the zone or paint the corners accurately which then allows more walks due to the visual aid. I try not to throw pitches down the middle to better hitters unless absolutely needed. Even if I'm down in the count I will still try to pitch outside of the middle of the zone.

[bcruise]

Re: Giving up walks

My opinion, simply put: if you don't throw walks (or rather, you feel like you don't have to), your difficulty is probably too low. MLB hitters SHOULD put the fear into you to work around the corners of the plate rather than over the middle of it. And if you pitch primarily on the corners or just off it, you will naturally give up some walks.

For me on HOF, I'm terrified when I miss my accuracy with the meter and something hangs over the plate - because I know there's a very good chance it's going to get hit hard.

[djep]

Re: Giving up walks

My opinion, simply put: if you don't throw walks (or rather, you feel like you don't have to), your difficulty is probably too low. MLB hitters SHOULD put the fear into you to work around the corners of the plate rather than over the middle of it. And if you pitch primarily on the corners or just off it, you will naturally give up some walks.

For me on HOF, I'm terrified when I miss my accuracy with the meter and something hangs over the plate - because I know there's a very good chance it's going to get hit hard.

Agreed. Even on a 3-1 count I'm aiming for the extreme edge of the strike zone.

It's like the difference between pitching in the 70s and 80s and pitching today. Back then you could get away with going right after hitters - here it is, see if you can hit it - 80% of the time or so. There were only a couple of real power threats on each team so pitchers didn't have the fear that they have today. Guys could throw 300 innings when they can cruise through most of the game.

[EWRMETS]

Re: Giving up walks

My opinion, simply put: if you don't throw walks (or rather, you feel like you don't have to), your difficulty is probably too low. MLB hitters SHOULD put the fear into you to work around the corners of the plate rather than over the middle of it. And if you pitch primarily on the corners or just off it, you will naturally give up some walks.

For me on HOF, I'm terrified when I miss my accuracy with the meter and something hangs over the plate - because I know there's a very good chance it's going to get hit hard.

I'm not a great pitcher on AS yet (last year I was) but do you find the CPU taking more pitches on HOF? On AS, I'm giving up a realistic number of runs but the CPU seems to swing at a lot, including pitches outside the zone. How many walks are you getting on HOF?

[bcruise]

Re: Giving up walks

I'm not a great pitcher on AS yet (last year I was) but do you find the CPU taking more pitches on HOF? On AS, I'm giving up a realistic number of runs but the CPU seems to swing at a lot, including pitches outside the zone. How many walks are you getting on HOF?

It's hard to find consistent rhyme or reason on what makes the CPU swing or not, but i do feel like they're more patient on HOF and don't swing at everything that's just off the corners. I definitely throw walks - ones that I didn't intend to.

But you have to aim to corners or even just off of them, hoping to get a call - the HOF CPU will murder you if you're over the plate too much.

[Armor and Sword]

Re: Giving up walks

I will walk batters don't get me wrong. But I would like to see maybe one more on average.

All/Star is where I like to be.


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[PsychoBulk]

Re: Giving up walks

As has been said.

Pitch to the corners the vast majority of the time, you'll walk people.

Keep pounding the zone, you wont.

Fairly self explanatory.

[Armor and Sword]

Giving up walks

As has been said.

Pitch to the corners the vast majority of the time, you'll walk people.

Keep pounding the zone, you wont.

Fairly self explanatory.

Yeah man I know and I do. I am merely trying to tweak my classic pitching experience without moving to HOF just yet hence turning off the vibration suggestion I am trying first.


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[JoshC1977]

Re: Giving up walks

Something I am trying out this weekend in my OSFM (man I am giddy about that) 2017 Yankees franchise spring training is a suggestion I got from Josh1977.

I am turning off the controller vibration (coupled with no ball marker which I do not use anymore) so I won't know when I am slightly or fully aiming out of the zone. This may lead to not only more user issues walks but also a much higher challenge vs the CPU on All-Star.

I tried HOF pitching last year on Classic and found it to be unforgiving. Like to the point of no matter who was on the bump Ace, scrub, (it did not matter) I would get lit up most of the time.

I am going to try this out and report back in my slider thread on it. Classic pitching of course.

Just to piggyback on this....

I'm really enjoying this little tweak...I've seen my strike percentage consistently drop more than 10% to much more reasonable levels. I don't worry as much about walk numbers as lots of factors are present. But statistically, strike percentage tends to stabilize fairly quickly. If I am less than 70% with elite guys and around 60% with meh guys, that works pretty well for my tastes.

[Armor and Sword]

Re: Giving up walks

I'm using quick counts too, what is broken?

Nothing is broken lets not start this crap in here too please.




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