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  • Twinkie12
    Rookie
    • May 2015
    • 63

    #1

    Playing guys at secondary positions - what's your philosophy?

    I looked for a thread about this for 2017 but couldn't find anything.

    I remember during one of the twitch streams the devs talked about how secondary positions didn't give certain guys as big of a ratings hit, depending on the position. For instance a SS playing at 2B shouldn't be big hit because 2B is lower on the defensive spectrum. Does anyone know the actual hit to ratings for positions or remember what was said? I'm curious about moving guys around in the OF as well, like RF playing in LF.
  • Caulfield
    Hall Of Fame
    • Apr 2011
    • 10986

    #2
    Re: Playing guys at secondary positions - what's your philosophy?

    Originally posted by Twinkie12
    I looked for a thread about this for 2017 but couldn't find anything.

    I remember during one of the twitch streams the devs talked about how secondary positions didn't give certain guys as big of a ratings hit, depending on the position. For instance a SS playing at 2B shouldn't be big hit because 2B is lower on the defensive spectrum. Does anyone know the actual hit to ratings for positions or remember what was said? I'm curious about moving guys around in the OF as well, like RF playing in LF.
    I'm just going to address my philosophy on LF to RF and RF to LF for now.
    If I move a RF'er to left, he's going to need at least a 60 field and 60 range rating if he never played LF IRL before.
    If I move a LF'er to right, he's going to need at least a 70 arm strength if he never played RF IRL before.
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    • TheWarmWind
      MVP
      • Apr 2015
      • 2620

      #3
      Re: Playing guys at secondary positions - what's your philosophy?

      Bump because the info was a little unspecific and secondary positions are my lifeblood as a manager.

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      • rtwilli4
        Banned
        • Nov 2016
        • 226

        #4
        Re: Playing guys at secondary positions - what's your philosophy?

        I don't remember what the devs said but it would be worth someone looking up the archive as they were specific.

        I want to say there was a specific ratings drop if you move a player to a position that is listed as secondary, but that % drop is smaller this year.

        And if you move a player to a position that is NOT listed as secondary, they get a massive ratings drop. So a third baseman who does not have SS or 2B listed as secondary will have a slow double play animation. Put someone at catcher who shouldn't be there and he will let a lot of balls by.


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        • squashbuggie
          Banned
          • Dec 2016
          • 371

          #5
          Re: Playing guys at secondary positions - what's your philosophy?

          Originally posted by Twinkie12
          I looked for a thread about this for 2017 but couldn't find anything.

          I remember during one of the twitch streams the devs talked about how secondary positions didn't give certain guys as big of a ratings hit, depending on the position. For instance a SS playing at 2B shouldn't be big hit because 2B is lower on the defensive spectrum. Does anyone know the actual hit to ratings for positions or remember what was said? I'm curious about moving guys around in the OF as well, like RF playing in LF.
          All Catchers can also play 1B
          All 1B can play RF
          All 2B can play at least SS/3B
          All 3B can play at leat 1B and corner OF
          All SS can play all positions except Catcher
          All CF can play RF/LF
          All corner OF's can play at least other corner OF and 1B

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          • Caulfield
            Hall Of Fame
            • Apr 2011
            • 10986

            #6
            Re: Playing guys at secondary positions - what's your philosophy?

            Originally posted by squashbuggie
            All corner OF's can play at least other corner OF and 1B
            last year I started a Rangers season but couldnt grow attached to the team so abandoned it.
            Anywho,I seriously considered moving Shin-Soo Cho from right to first but just couldnt pull the trigger.
            If I play a Rangers season in 17 I'm moving him and will platoon him with Napoli.
            Incidentally Napoli still has a 72 block rating at catcher despite not being behind the dish last 4 seasons.
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            • squashbuggie
              Banned
              • Dec 2016
              • 371

              #7
              Re: Playing guys at secondary positions - what's your philosophy?

              Originally posted by Caulfield
              last year I started a Rangers season but couldnt grow attached to the team so abandoned it.
              Anywho,I seriously considered moving Shin-Soo Cho from right to first but just couldnt pull the trigger.
              If I play a Rangers season in 17 I'm moving him and will platoon him with Napoli.
              Incidentally Napoli still has a 72 block rating at catcher despite not being behind the dish last 4 seasons.
              maybe chop napoli blocking down 20-25%.

              yes, 1B is a position any one can play. I apply that philosophy to edit all players in the league and it is great, imo. I played SS and was good enough to play Division 1 or 2 (as a 2nd baseman - weak arm - outstanding glove) and coaches at that level agree with that philosophy.

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              • Twinkie12
                Rookie
                • May 2015
                • 63

                #8
                Re: Playing guys at secondary positions - what's your philosophy?

                Originally posted by squashbuggie
                All Catchers can also play 1B
                All 1B can play RF
                All 2B can play at least SS/3B
                All 3B can play at leat 1B and corner OF
                All SS can play all positions except Catcher
                All CF can play RF/LF
                All corner OF's can play at least other corner OF and 1B
                I get that guys CAN play at their secondary positions, but I'm wondering more about specific ratings drops so I can make specific decisions where to play guys.

                For instance, if I put Machado at SS will he be elite there or just average. It depends on what his ratings hit is since his primary is 3B. I'm tempted to play an average defensive SS at 3B and play Machado at SS, but I am not sure it's worth it if both are taking a ratings hits by playing a secondary position.

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                • Mike Lowe
                  All Star
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 5287

                  #9
                  Re: Playing guys at secondary positions - what's your philosophy?

                  Whatever the case, I wish two things:

                  1) AI teams would better utilize secondary positions (what are you seeing?)

                  2) User and AI teams could/would teach a player a new position, based on his age, athletic ability, and a new morale element: work ethic.

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                  • gamer052001
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 271

                    #10
                    Re: Playing guys at secondary positions - what's your philosophy?

                    Originally posted by squashbuggie
                    All Catchers can also play 1B
                    All 1B can play RF
                    All 2B can play at least SS/3B
                    All 3B can play at leat 1B and corner OF
                    All SS can play all positions except Catcher
                    All CF can play RF/LF
                    All corner OF's can play at least other corner OF and 1B
                    Are you saying these are like automatic secondary positions? Carlos Santana played RF for their series in Arizona this weekend with no DH and Encarnacion at 1B. It's annoying that I can't edit his secondary to add RF, but are you saying he automatically has RF as secondary with no significant ratings hit?

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