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  • underdog13
    MVP
    • Apr 2012
    • 3222

    #16
    Re: Brett Gardner's Power is overrated in this game. Is anyone else...

    Originally posted by Caulfield
    exactly! I have gardner as being more 36/32 in the power dept.
    Yeah that's been my experience with this game. 50 power can add up hrs over a season.

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    • videobastard
      MVP
      • Aug 2004
      • 3388

      #17
      Re: Brett Gardner's Power is overrated in this game. Is anyone else...

      There are a lot of right handed pitchers to serve up lefties. Once a player is hot he is more likely to have successful at bats. The game is home run friendly on default allstar and below difficulties. So a hot player can benefit from the easier difficulties.

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      • ML
        Eli for HOF
        • Aug 2011
        • 1964

        #18
        Re: Brett Gardner's Power is overrated in this game. Is anyone else...

        Originally posted by underdog13
        How many home runs do you guys expect from 50 power?
        My scale is kinda like this

        Pow Rating - Expect Hr per full season

        99 - 55
        90 - 45
        80 - 35
        70 - 27
        60 - 20
        50 - 15
        40 - 10
        30 - 7
        20 - 4
        10 - 1

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        Since the ratings are based off the past 3? seasons, Nelson Cruz has a 89/99 PWR split and hit 40, 44, 43 the last three seasons. Miggy C has hit a career high 44, while hitting 44, 44, 25, 38 in his past 4 COMPLETE seasons. So yes I agree, basically in the same ballpark as you.

        I think that this year while there is more of a difference in the ratings for the players this year, the raw PWR rating alone isn't what is jacking up home run numbers. I think it has more to do with PWR ratings being inflated and the player's abilities exaggerated due to the new ball physics, wind actually working this year, etc.

        Take those factors and put a guy like Gardner in a park like Yankee Stadium and you might get some obscure results compared to his real life counterpart.


        That being said, Joey Batts hit 13 homeruns when he was 28 and then 54 when he was 29, so I guess anything COULD happen
        Last edited by ML; 04-19-2017, 06:45 PM.
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        • Razeart2422
          Banned
          • Nov 2014
          • 196

          #19
          Re: Brett Gardner's Power is overrated in this game. Is anyone else...

          Originally posted by 19
          Franklin Gutierrez is even worse. 91 power vs. LHP & RHP.
          Huh? You're kidding right? If he is a 91. That is ridiculous.

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          • Caulfield
            Hall Of Fame
            • Apr 2011
            • 10986

            #20
            Re: Brett Gardner's Power is overrated in this game. Is anyone else...

            Originally posted by Razeart2422
            Huh? You're kidding right? If he is a 91. That is ridiculous.
            yeah, i'd put him at 57/84
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            • 19
              Chaos Theory
              • Aug 2008
              • 8859

              #21
              Re: Brett Gardner's Power is overrated in this game. Is anyone else...

              Originally posted by Razeart2422
              Huh? You're kidding right? If he is a 91. That is ridiculous.
              When you play ranked, it feels like he's on every team.

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              • Razeart2422
                Banned
                • Nov 2014
                • 196

                #22
                Re: Brett Gardner's Power is overrated in this game. Is anyone else...

                Originally posted by MLamm16
                Curious to see how many of these you hit at home, as we all know Yankee Stadium is extremely lefty friendly. In fact, Gardner has hit 41 career homeruns there and only 22 in the 9 other stadiums where he's gone yard. His only homerun to left field was actually an inside the park homerun lol.

                He did have 17 in '14 and 16 in '15 but then only 9 last year..
                If that were the case I would be hitting more homeruns with Greg Bird who has a 81 power vs Rhp and 60 Power vs Lhp and is also a lefty batter.

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                • BYU 14
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 413

                  #23
                  Re: Brett Gardner's Power is overrated in this game. Is anyone else...

                  Gardner needs to up his damn game for me then, 1 HR in 29 games

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                  • kehlis
                    Moderator
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 27738

                    #24
                    Re: Brett Gardner's Power is overrated in this game. Is anyone else...

                    I'm probably different than most but I don't mind my actual results sometimes varying from what we see in real life.

                    I don't mind the occasional player isn't supposed to hit homeruns in real life all of a sudden become a power hitter in my franchise.

                    To me, I don't really want to 100% mirror real life so I'm happy when I see anomalies like this.



                    Please please don't take that as a judgement of anyone who doesn't want to see differences though, this post is not meant that way at all. I just wanted to pop in and say I appreciate when one offs like this happen.

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                    • Razeart2422
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2014
                      • 196

                      #25
                      Re: Brett Gardner's Power is overrated in this game. Is anyone else...

                      Originally posted by Caulfield
                      you using zone or directionl for batting?
                      I'm using directional. But it doesn't really matter because If I was using zone I am sure I would still hit more with Gardner than with everybody else. There is something up with Gardner regardless of the batting interface I am using.

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                      • Caulfield
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 10986

                        #26
                        Re: Brett Gardner's Power is overrated in this game. Is anyone else...

                        Originally posted by Razeart2422
                        I'm using directional. But it doesn't really matter because If I was using zone I am sure I would still hit more with Gardner than with everybody else. There is something up with Gardner regardless of the batting interface I am using.
                        yeah I wondered if you were using zone, I could see 20+ homers, but not on directional.
                        its definitely his power attribute is too high. I think more than a few test sims will reveal him to have 20+ hr seasons. his power numbers should be in the 30s not the 50s
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                        • HealyMonster
                          Titans Era has begun.
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 5992

                          #27
                          Re: Brett Gardner's Power is overrated in this game. Is anyone else...

                          dont know about Gardner, but Dee Gordons speed is over powered. He went 3 for 3 on 3 ground balls to the short stop. I mean hes fast in real life, but a routine ground ball is a routine ground ball. This dude is like usain bolt or something in this game.

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                          • DarthRambo
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 6630

                            #28
                            Re: Brett Gardner's Power is overrated in this game. Is anyone else...

                            Edwin Encarcion is 91/99 Pwr...he hit 42 homeruns last year. However he's old so he's already regressed to 98 power in my season. 9 homeruns and still a week left of April.

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                            • DarthRambo
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 6630

                              #29
                              Re: Brett Gardner's Power is overrated in this game. Is anyone else...

                              Originally posted by HealyMonster
                              dont know about Gardner, but Dee Gordons speed is over powered. He went 3 for 3 on 3 ground balls to the short stop. I mean hes fast in real life, but a routine ground ball is a routine ground ball. This dude is like usain bolt or something in this game.
                              Lower baserunner speed to two

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                              • Razeart2422
                                Banned
                                • Nov 2014
                                • 196

                                #30
                                Re: Brett Gardner's Power is overrated in this game. Is anyone else...

                                So I went back through every box score of the 65 Total games I have played in my Yankees season to check how many times a hitter with power in the 40's or 50's hit a homerun against me. (Playing on Hall of fame difficulty)

                                These are the results:
                                (Number to the left is power vs lefties and to the right vs righties.)

                                Tampa bay:
                                Duffy 42/43
                                Kiermaier 2 43/54
                                Rickie weeks (Hit one against Righty) 46 Pwr vs R

                                White sox:
                                Melky Cabrera 2 46/48
                                Lawrie 61/56
                                Avisail Garcia 57/49
                                Tim Anderson 42/45
                                Cody Asche 48/50

                                Pirates:
                                John Jaso 46/51

                                Orioles:
                                Seth Smith 48/59
                                Chris Johnson 48/41

                                Blue Jays:
                                Devon Travis 50/52

                                Astros:
                                Gurriel 2 59/54
                                Bregman 59/54
                                Gonzalez 55/50

                                Red sox:
                                Benintendi 2 41/54

                                Angels:
                                Maldonado 56/49

                                Athletics:
                                Rajai Davis 3 CF 54/42
                                Healy (Hit vs Righty) 56 pwr vs Rhp
                                De Aza 36/48

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                                26 total homeruns vs batters with power in the 40's or 50's,
                                and I have allowed 80 homeruns.

                                So that means 54 homeruns have been by hitters with power of 60 or higher.
                                Last edited by Razeart2422; 04-19-2017, 08:48 PM.

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