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  • nomo17k
    Permanently Banned
    • Feb 2011
    • 5735

    #106
    Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.05 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

    With the patch release note not mentioning the issue and I haven't gotten in enough games to see if it has been (secretly) touched, but the wild pitch issue, as has been discussed in the following thread

    http://www.operationsports.com/forum...vance-cpu.html

    has not been improved since the game release.

    Purely from the game results perspective, there is definitely an inflation of wild pitches in the game. I have been consistently seeing about a factor of 2 - 3 more wild pitches than what's expected from the MLB average, with Pitcher Consistency slider at 4 - 5 in CPU vs. CPU games.

    So I cannot agree with an assessment that an inflation of wild pitches not being an issue...

    It is also also an issue when playing against HUM (say online), because it's just too risky to throw breaking pitches low with catchers not being able to gracefully handle them.

    Of course we want the devs to fix it effectively, meaning not to eliminate them entirely, and I'd like to think that's why it's taking longer than other, easier fixes. My suggestion would be to not try to touch baserunning and/or catcher fielding aspect, but simply make catcher handle pitches in the dirt very cleanly (meaning don't drop it anywhere at all) more often, as it was in MLB 16. I still think that's the least intrusive way to tone down the overall wild pitch frequency.
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    • Gagnon39
      Windy City Sports Fan
      • Mar 2003
      • 8544

      #107
      Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.05 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

      Originally posted by IrishSalsa
      Called into work and going to be playing a lot today lol. Started first game up now in my Indians franchise. Using QC with my current sliders. Fingers crossed!

      I've already issued one walk, and drawn two walks in two innings thanks to some 3-2 starting counts!

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      Wait, what do you do? I need this job, whatever it is.


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      • TGov
        MVP
        • Mar 2012
        • 1169

        #108
        Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.05 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

        Nothing like a good ol' fashion hard freeze after the patch.
        And it's ALWAYS when I'm doing good. 6-0 in the 2nd, homered 3 or 4 times with my key players.
        Not. Happy.

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        • timmg
          MVP
          • Jun 2003
          • 1380

          #109
          Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.05 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

          [QUOTE=Gagnon39;2048816886]Wait, what do you do? I need this job, whatever it is.

          Thats ridiculous a grown a×× man calling in, jus to play a video game.....i use to leave work early on the day NCAA came out...but that was different, at least i showed up.

          JK enjoy the game

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          • underdog13
            MVP
            • Apr 2012
            • 3222

            #110
            Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.05 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

            Originally posted by Razeart2422
            You said it all there. That's all they need to do. The dropped balls and runners advancing is more of a User vs Cpu issue. Not a User vs User issue.
            Lol, I feel like I'm not even playing the same game as you guys. Huge issue online. Huge.

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            • DarthRambo
              MVP
              • Mar 2008
              • 6630

              #111
              Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.05 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

              [QUOTE=timmg;2048816917]
              Originally posted by Gagnon39
              Wait, what do you do? I need this job, whatever it is.

              Thats ridiculous a grown a×× man calling in, jus to play a video game.....i use to leave work early on the day NCAA came out...but that was different, at least i showed up.

              JK enjoy the game
              Lol I haven't called in since hell I can't even remember. I work two jobs so I still gotta go to work this evening lol

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              • stealyerface
                MVP
                • Feb 2004
                • 1803

                #112
                Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.05 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                I am playing with my Pitcher Accuracy and Consistency both set at one.

                I am wondering if the passed ball/wild pitch propensity is being enhanced due to my pitcher's settings being set low?

                But if I set my settings higher, my guys would be too accurate.

                I wonder if a happy medium should be tested?

                ~syf
                "Ain't gonna learn what you don't wanna know"....GD

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                • Armor and Sword
                  The Lama
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 21783

                  #113
                  Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.05 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                  Originally posted by stealyerface
                  I am playing with my Pitcher Accuracy and Consistency both set at one.

                  I am wondering if the passed ball/wild pitch propensity is being enhanced due to my pitcher's settings being set low?

                  But if I set my settings higher, my guys would be too accurate.

                  I wonder if a happy medium should be tested?

                  ~syf
                  I am at consistency 3 control 2 and am getting ultra realistic strike percentages and games. I am alos not throwing tons of wild pitches. The game for me has been really incredible since release and the last 2 patches have cleaned up some bugs and I could not be happier.

                  More stuff though needs to be cleaned up like some OSD bugs inside franchise mode. But the game is playing incredibly. Hitting and fielding has never ever been better IMO.
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                  • nomo17k
                    Permanently Banned
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 5735

                    #114
                    Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.05 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                    Originally posted by stealyerface
                    I am playing with my Pitcher Accuracy and Consistency both set at one.

                    I am wondering if the passed ball/wild pitch propensity is being enhanced due to my pitcher's settings being set low?

                    But if I set my settings higher, my guys would be too accurate.

                    I wonder if a happy medium should be tested?

                    ~syf
                    This is why I'd prefer the games with default sliders to be a little tighter on wild pitches (and HBPs)... I also like to lower Pitcher Control/Consistency to adjust CPU offense and wildness of pitchers (to increase walks and simulate the IRL difficulty of commanding pitches), but with wild pitches (as well as hit-by-pitch) too high at default, we don't really have a lot of leeway in lowering these sliders, since pretty much the only way to adjust the frequency of WPs and HBPs is to use Pitcher Consistency (Control also contributes some), but with wild pitches too high we cannot really lower them further.
                    The Show CPU vs. CPU game stats: 2018,17,16,15,14,13,12,11

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                    • videobastard
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 3388

                      #115
                      Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.05 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                      The latest online freeze I experienced is the pitch going through the middle of the catcher and the game locks up. Both me and opponent could not move are players or access any menus. Basically a wait to see who quits first. They need to overhaul online coding. This is ridicolous.

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                      • stealyerface
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 1803

                        #116
                        Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.05 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                        Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                        I am at consistency 3 control 2 and am getting ultra realistic strike percentages and games. I am alos not throwing tons of wild pitches. The game for me has been really incredible since release and the last 2 patches have cleaned up some bugs and I could not be happier.

                        More stuff though needs to be cleaned up like some OSD bugs inside franchise mode. But the game is playing incredibly. Hitting and fielding has never ever been better IMO.
                        Hmm...

                        I'll make a slider tweak tonight and play a five game set.

                        What makes it tough when it comes to the slider-able games, is that you get one guy playing with the Power and Contact at four and three respectively, and another guy at six and four. So when either one makes comments, or has issues, it is tough to decipher how much of it is actually and issue, or how much is driven by the sliders taking control of one or more aspects, which get compounded with the issue.

                        For instance, I have my baserunning slider set so low, I do not see any issues with stealing being unrealistic.

                        But, I have my fielder speed set low enough that when a ball gets by or over my outfielder's heads, their speed slider plays just as large a role as my baserunner speed, as does their speed rating.

                        So while I can say, "I see no issue with the homerun length, or the amount of homeruns", the probably cause of this is my power and solid hit levels being low.

                        I prefer a defensive game over the offensive onslaught, so for me, I see no issues with Homerun distance and numbers...

                        I had not thought of the game imposing a more severe penalty on my catcher, by nerfing my control and consistency of my pitcher, to the point where I wanted to feel the pressure of hitting my spots without leaving pitches in a hit-able situations. Therefore, while I pick at corners, and nibble at the black, walking the tightrope between serviceable pitches and whiplash from jets leaving the tarmac, I may have put an extra burden on my catching squad.

                        Did my low settings inadvertently trigger wild pitches and passed balls within the confines of the Classic Pitching, because the game felt it needed to factor in a wild pitch, based on my sliders?

                        Is this why I could purposely stay away from the low stuff, in an attempt to keep the CPU from running on my fatuity, but I would still get an occasional fastball called for a strike and in the strike zone that would ricochet off the catcher's mitt like a stray bullet in a canyon?

                        Maybe my slider set causes my personal experiences to differ from others', therefore making it frustrating that other people can't understand my frustration?

                        Either way, the game is too good to make a huge production out of this, and before I take to the streets and loot and riot, I'll tweak my Consistency and Control up a bit, play a few game test set, and see if that small adjustment makes a difference...

                        That seems like a reasonable idea.

                        He said.

                        ~syf
                        "Ain't gonna learn what you don't wanna know"....GD

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                        • Chris_SCEA_Sports
                          MLB Lead Animator
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 382

                          #117
                          Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.05 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                          It did not make the patch notes, but this is something we did tweak a bit for this patch. I have seen a lot of posts about it in this thread, so I assume all of the comments are based on seeing it still happening too often with 1.05 installed.

                          As you said in another post, it is a delicate balance...and we will continue to work on it.

                          Thanks!



                          Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                          I rather them not screw with base runner logic and fix the glaring issue of the catcher animation being too relaxed and nonchalant. Because in the real world while they don't all result in a gunned down runner, they are urgently trying to throw them out.

                          The problem in the past is there were no balls in the dirt animations like we have now (love the new blocking animations etc etc) and the catchers would be lighting fast.

                          Finding that balance will be something I think they get right for 18. I have this feeling this is what we got for 17.

                          Every year, every iteration we get some warts in sports games and as die hard sports gamers we need to find ways to reduce and mitigate it on our end when it can't be fixed for whatever reason. Because I believe if it can be fixed it will be. But if this is hard coded animations...I doubt it. Much like the glitchy check swing animations on 16 could not be repaired.

                          I know I can easily not cheese this exploit. The CPU will however cheese it. So I am far more afraid to throw junk, with a guy who has average to bad stuff that night, in critical situations, with men on base.

                          Unfortunately online gamer's will cheese each other badly. Can't do anything there.

                          But offline.....I can manage this in my little virtual baseball universe.

                          However if they can tune the base runner logic based on speed rating that can be a band aide.

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                          • tgreer
                            Pro
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 565

                            #118
                            Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.05 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                            Originally posted by Chris_SCEA_Sports
                            It did not make the patch notes, but this is something we did tweak a bit for this patch. I have seen a lot of posts about it in this thread, so I assume all of the comments are based on seeing it still happening too often with 1.05 installed.

                            As you said in another post, it is a delicate balance...and we will continue to work on it.

                            Thanks!
                            Great news! Thanks for you guys hard work

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                            • swat77
                              Just started!
                              • Mar 2017
                              • 2

                              #119
                              Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.05 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                              Originally posted by JKSportsGamer1984
                              Are the lighting glitches fixed? Especially the glitch where the pitcher & batter will change tones when the pitcher starts his throwing motion? It's as if the pitcher & batter lose their polygon count when the pitcher starts his throwing motion. I hope this has been addressed because it's distracting & it's kind of hurting my experience.
                              same question here

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                              • Spokker
                                Pro
                                • May 2014
                                • 615

                                #120
                                Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.05 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                                Originally posted by JKSportsGamer1984
                                Are the lighting glitches fixed? Especially the glitch where the pitcher & batter will change tones when the pitcher starts his throwing motion? It's as if the pitcher & batter lose their polygon count when the pitcher starts his throwing motion. I hope this has been addressed because it's distracting & it's kind of hurting my experience.
                                This isn't a bug. It's the way it's designed to preserve performance during gameplay.

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