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  • stealyerface
    MVP
    • Feb 2004
    • 1803

    #1

    Cannot Unsee...

    So, I would like some feedback, and some observations on what I feel to be something pretty cool, and helpful to the hitting attack.

    I play with the Batter Camera on Catcher Offset, and with that view, I get a great view of the middle infielders during my at bats.

    It has come to my attention, that the middle innies may be looking in to see the catcher's signs, and taking their first steps accordingly.

    So, as a lefty batting, if something offspeed is coming, it appears as though the short stop will step towards his left, thereby making his first step towards defending a ball pulled from the lefty batter side.

    Likewise, if you have a righty at the plate, and the offspeed pitch is on the way, the SS and 2nd baseman will step a half step towards their left, also covering the pull towards the offspeed shade...

    If it is total coincidence, and they just move for the sake of doing something different, so be it.

    But it sure seems to me that I have been able to figure out what to sit on, based on the infielders moving just prior to the pitch.

    Either way, once you notice it, you'll never not see them moving...

    Thoughts? Feedback on such a possibility?
    ~syf
    "Ain't gonna learn what you don't wanna know"....GD
  • Juve
    Pro
    • Dec 2008
    • 649

    #2
    Re: Cannot Unsee...

    You may be on to something there. After reading this I just now tried watching them, I use fisheye btw, but the SS seems to move a little bit to his right before the fastball pitch, and almost stand still on the off speed

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    • forme95
      MVP
      • Nov 2013
      • 3118

      #3
      Re: Cannot Unsee...

      I was watching a game on Twitch and went back and really started paying attention to it, and you are correct sir. They do move around. Good eye!!!
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      • kehlis
        Moderator
        • Jul 2008
        • 27738

        #4
        Re: Cannot Unsee...

        That's real life...

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        • stealyerface
          MVP
          • Feb 2004
          • 1803

          #5
          Re: Cannot Unsee...

          Originally posted by kehlis
          That's real life...
          That's what I'm talking about...

          ~syf
          "Ain't gonna learn what you don't wanna know"....GD

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          • TheWarmWind
            MVP
            • Apr 2015
            • 2620

            #6
            Re: Cannot Unsee...

            I've noticed it while defending. I pitch with fisheye.

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            • Caulfield
              Hall Of Fame
              • Apr 2011
              • 10986

              #7
              Re: Cannot Unsee...

              hold the phone Mabel. apparently even real life is scripted.
              is that art imitating life, life imitating art, or art imitating life imitating art?
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              • TheWarmWind
                MVP
                • Apr 2015
                • 2620

                #8
                Re: Cannot Unsee...

                Originally posted by Caulfield
                hold the phone Mabel. apparently even real life is scripted.
                is that art imitating life, life imitating art, or art imitating life imitating art?
                LOL of course real life is scripted. What did you think those guys were pulling out of their back pockets, a tissue?

                cause seriously, that's what I thought the first time I saw a player look at his scouting queue card.
                Last edited by TheWarmWind; 05-13-2017, 05:11 PM.

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                • Nulap
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2013
                  • 196

                  #9
                  Re: Cannot Unsee...

                  I rely on something similar in stealing bases in RttS. I watch the catcher. I'm not the best at reading the pitcher so I started watching the catcher instead. Any time the pitcher is coming home the catcher will shift slightly in his stance. I'm sure there are better ways to gauge a jump. So far I'm usually in the good to great range on jumps.

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                  • forme95
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 3118

                    #10
                    Re: Cannot Unsee...

                    Originally posted by Nulap
                    I rely on something similar in stealing bases in RttS. I watch the catcher. I'm not the best at reading the pitcher so I started watching the catcher instead. Any time the pitcher is coming home the catcher will shift slightly in his stance. I'm sure there are better ways to gauge a jump. So far I'm usually in the good to great range on jumps.
                    What I watch is the pitcher when I'm on base, or if someone is on and I'm at bat, I take a pitch or two and watch the pitchers wind up. Is it a long wind up, what's his front foot do.... Watch the front foot. I don't hold R2 until the pitcher looks, then looks back at the catcher. Then I hold R2 and as soon as he starts to lifts his front foot, I release R2 and take off.

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                    Really wish sports games played to ratings!
                    Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
                    CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
                    MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
                    Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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                    • King Gro23
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 2548

                      #11
                      Re: Cannot Unsee...

                      Originally posted by forme95
                      What I watch is the pitcher when I'm on base, or if someone is on and I'm at bat, I take a pitch or two and watch the pitchers wind up. Is it a long wind up, what's his front foot do.... Watch the front foot. I don't hold R2 until the pitcher looks, then looks back at the catcher. Then I hold R2 and as soon as he starts to lifts his front foot, I release R2 and take off.

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                      To piggyback on this response for you nulap/ as far as stealing goes. I can't give you elite advice but... when stealing in the show I decide two things initially with the lead off
                      - I click L1 to lead immediately before he even finishes his animated walk off the base. So by the time the pitcher "Sets" and looks at the runner I'm standing still already with 1 step lead

                      Other option is to click L1 after he has looked. But it won't be long after before he will start a delivery.

                      I do not hold R2 and release ; I simply flick it and I place my index finger on the back half of the trigger with the tip of my finger and just reflex it

                      Give that a shot


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                      • King Gro23
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 2548

                        #12
                        Re: Cannot Unsee...

                        like this


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                        • Juve
                          Pro
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 649

                          #13
                          Re: Cannot Unsee...

                          L1? For me that moves me closer towards the PREVIOUS base. It's r1 that gives me that extra step

                          But for me, I usually just take a lead step, then watch the pitcher. Pretty easy to gauge and steal the base. I very rarely ever get tagged out, if at all

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                          • King Gro23
                            MVP
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 2548

                            #14
                            Re: Cannot Unsee...

                            Originally posted by Juve
                            L1? For me that moves me closer towards the PREVIOUS base. It's r1 that gives me that extra step

                            But for me, I usually just take a lead step, then watch the pitcher. Pretty easy to gauge and steal the base. I very rarely ever get tagged out, if at all

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                            Typo I meant r1


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