MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.11 Available Now, Patch Notes Here

[BigOscar]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.11 Available Now, Patch Notes Here

I think you could make a case for the tap in the glove being unnecessary, but everything else looks fine to me. There doesn't appear to be a delay in approaching the ball or picking it up, and of course he has to get his feet set before the throw.

The way pitchers move on this game, yes he has to set his feet after picking the ball up as he has overrun it. Real life he start slowing down as he approaches the ball and sets his feet as he picks the ball up and throws the guy out by a mile. But on this game pitchers overrun the ball, they don't start slowing down until they already have it in their glove, then they have to take 3 steps to come to stop, then plant their feet, then throw the ball. That's the problem

[p00p1]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.11 Available Now, Patch Notes Here

Glad to see they finally addressed the Target Field ground rules, can't believe they spent half the season saying they had it right before finally coming around.

[BA2929]

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The biggest question for all us slider makers: did this patch change hitting again? A friend of mine played 2 innings post patch 1.11 and hit 2 Homer's in one inning. My sliders were tuned for the dead ball Era from patch 1.10 so if they made hitting easier again, slider makers are once again going to have to adjust.

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I don't understand how hitting 2 HRs in one inning, one time means the sliders are messed up and hitting has changed. That seems like a naturally occurring baseball thing.......

[GWPump23]

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The biggest question for all us slider makers: did this patch change hitting again? A friend of mine played 2 innings post patch 1.11 and hit 2 Homer's in one inning. My sliders were tuned for the dead ball Era from patch 1.10 so if they made hitting easier again, slider makers are once again going to have to adjust.

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Can't speak for THIS patch yet as I haven't played a game yet, but DO wish programmers would stop "changing hitting" so far into a season...

Don't mind a drastic overhaul early on & can appreciate slight refining into the season too. But, FINALLY settling in with slider settings, getting many games into an offline season/franchise, having accurate season stats being generated to that point then having to overhaul slider settings is a REAL drag!

How many Padjoi legend slider sets are there now, 30? (appreciate your efforts by the way ) But, you/we/us shouldn't have to be "hitting the drawing board" all season long IMO...

Next season I'll be putting the controller down post patches, letting the dust settle a bit & allowing the slider makes to find their way before continuing that season...

-GW-

[WaitTilNextYear]

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The biggest question for all us slider makers: did this patch change hitting again? A friend of mine played 2 innings post patch 1.11 and hit 2 Homer's in one inning. My sliders were tuned for the dead ball Era from patch 1.10 so if they made hitting easier again, slider makers are once again going to have to adjust.

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Didn't the Nats just hit something like 5 homers in an inning off of Milwaukee? Like, last week? Variety is inevitable.

Any slider makers worth their salt know that a 2 inning sample is completely useless. No disrespect intended. Same goes to anyone out there basing judgments on a single at-bat, or 2 pitches, or whatever snap judgment they are trying to advocate for.

EDIT: People on both sides (overly positive and overly negative) should play a few games first and then get back to the rest of us. No need to promote potential misinformation on criminally small data sets. This is why the peanut gallery gets so confused at all the conflicting info after each and every single patch.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Do they have ability to add feature to turn budgets off in Franchise?

Huh? Are you talking about the menu option that has always been in the game? You've been able to turn budgets on/off for as long as I've been playing the game. You just have to decide whether to have them on/off as you start a new franchise. Apologies if you are referring to something else or if this is one of those online/offline franchise discrepancies--I only play offline.

[Finn]

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Has anyone noticed that in random games offline, one of the pitchers will lose their stamina at a rapid rate (ex: 40 pitches = zero energy), while the other pitcher's stamina decreases normally? *

Yes playing the Yankees the other night I noticed it. The only thing I forgot to do was make sure he started the game with full stamina so it may have been that.


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[Padgoi]

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Can't speak for THIS patch yet as I haven't played a game yet, but DO wish programmers would stop "changing hitting" so far into a season...

Don't mind a drastic overhaul early on & can appreciate slight refining into the season too. But, FINALLY settling in with slider settings, getting many games into an offline season/franchise, having accurate season stats being generated to that point then having to overhaul slider settings is a REAL drag!

How many Padjoi legend slider sets are there now, 30? (appreciate your efforts by the way ) But, you/we/us shouldn't have to be "hitting the drawing board" all season long IMO...

Next season I'll be putting the controller down post patches, letting the dust settle a bit & allowing the slider makes to find their way before continuing that season...

-GW-

There's actually 35 versions of the padgoi sliders now. And expect more now than another patch has changed the way hitting works yet again.

[Padgoi]

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Didn't the Nats just hit something like 5 homers in an inning off of Milwaukee? Like, last week? Variety is inevitable.

Any slider makers worth their salt know that a 2 inning sample is completely useless. No disrespect intended. Same goes to anyone out there basing judgments on a single at-bat, or 2 pitches, or whatever snap judgment they are trying to advocate for.

EDIT: People on both sides (overly positive and overly negative) should play a few games first and then get back to the rest of us. No need to promote potential misinformation on criminally small data sets. This is why the peanut gallery gets so confused at all the conflicting info after each and every single patch.

No disrespect intended after telling me I'm not worth my salt? And why is that? Because you're not good enough at the game to play on legend? Or perhaps because I can tell when something has changed drastically without having to play 15 games on that slider set? If no offense was intended, you would've just kept your mouth closed to begin with.

Let's tell it like it is. There are certainly people at this forum that think everything wrong with the game is user error and that the developers are infallible. Then there are people who blame the developers for world hunger. Then there are people like me, who tell it like it is. When a game has had 11 patches since its release and the developers don't include hitting and pitching slider changes in their release notes, I'd say that's more of a development issue than a user issue.

Maybe if you actually tried my sliders instead of shooting off about them, you'd see that I put extensive testing into every single change I make. Heck, there are "official" slider makers that have stopped updating their sliders entirely because of the exorbitant number of patches that have been released. No one wants to update sliders 30 times through August because the developers continue to release patches that change the way hitting sliders work every single time.

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[Baseball Purist]

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Don't know if it's because I upgraded to a ps4 pro yesterday, or the patch, but hitting feels solid again. Seeing much better results, and results that actually match with the input. I'm thinking it might actually be a bit of both.

And no doubt I can imagine this game has been a challenge for slider makers regarding hitting. My stats suffered greatly bc of this in my offline franchise. After about a month, maybe two, the core gameplay elements should be set. Patches have really become a double edged sword in that regard.

[Padgoi]

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Don't know if it's because I upgraded to a ps4 pro yesterday, or the patch, but hitting feels solid again. Seeing much better results, and results that actually match with the input. I'm thinking it might actually be a bit of both.

And no doubt I can imagine this game has been a challenge for slider makers regarding hitting. My stats suffered greatly bc of this in my offline franchise. After about a month, maybe two, the core gameplay elements should be set. Patches have really become a double edged sword in that regard.

This was exactly my point. Some of us don't need to play 15 games to know when something so drastically changed. It is obvious that this latest patch 1.11 changed hitting yet again and made it more realistic. And now the slider makers that adjusted their sliders for the last 3 dead ball Era patches have to readjust to acclimate with the patch updates.

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[Flowplay]

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The way pitchers move on this game, yes he has to set his feet after picking the ball up as he has overrun it. Real life he start slowing down as he approaches the ball and sets his feet as he picks the ball up and throws the guy out by a mile. But on this game pitchers overrun the ball, they don't start slowing down until they already have it in their glove, then they have to take 3 steps to come to stop, then plant their feet, then throw the ball. That's the problem

I agree with the other guy that this does look like a normal play by the video, but having actually played the game I totally agree with you, it seems like my pitcher deliberately takes way to much time allowing the runner to be safe, and what always annoyed me more was when playing offline the cpu pitcher always threw me out with an absolute cannon of an arm no matter how fast my my runner was on very similar plays to these

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[Trent Booty]

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Let's tell it like it is. There are certainly people at this forum that think everything wrong with the game is user error and that the developers are infallible. Then there are people who blame the developers for world hunger. Then there are people like me, who tell it like it is. When a game has had 11 patches since its release and the developers don't include hitting and pitching slider changes in their release notes, I'd say that's more of a development issue than a user issue.

Off topic somewhat, but if that ain't the truth...company shills and haters for no real reason(both ends of the spectrum) are my biggest pet peeve.

I love this game but when people have a complaint about the game, whether it be an issue in franchise, or a game play animation that sucks, there's always the same people who will take all of the blame off the developers. Not even just on OS, although it is really apparent here.

It's okay if the game isn't perfect.... It can still be a great game.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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No disrespect intended after telling me I'm not worth my salt? And why is that? Because you're not good enough at the game to play on legend? Or perhaps because I can tell when something has changed drastically without having to play 15 games on that slider set? If no offense was intended, you would've just kept your mouth closed to begin with.

Let's tell it like it is. There are certainly people at this forum that think everything wrong with the game is user error and that the developers are infallible. Then there are people who blame the developers for world hunger. Then there are people like me, who tell it like it is. When a game has had 11 patches since its release and the developers don't include hitting and pitching slider changes in their release notes, I'd say that's more of a development issue than a user issue.

Maybe if you actually tried my sliders instead of shooting off about them, you'd see that I put extensive testing into every single change I make. Heck, there are "official" slider makers that have stopped updating their sliders entirely because of the exorbitant number of patches that have been released. No one wants to update sliders 30 times through August because the developers continue to release patches that change the way hitting sliders work every single time.

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As far as I know, I never called you out specifically. While I did quote your post, didn't you say that your friend was the one with the 2 inning sample? I thought I was commenting more generally about the epidemic on OS where people are constantly making assumptions based on too little data (or none at all). If you specifically are reading a lot into that 2 inning sample, then I suppose I could see how you'd be offended. Then again, you shouldn't really be reading a lot into a 2 inning sample because you are an experienced slider maker, so...

My original point, however, is that you actually can't tell if most gameplay issues regarding stats (too high/too low) are different after playing just 2 innings. You really do need that significant sample size/data to draw any solid conclusions.

I don't see any reason to address your other points.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Off topic somewhat, but if that ain't the truth...company shills and haters for no real reason(both ends of the spectrum) are my biggest pet peeve.

I love this game but when people have a complaint about the game, whether it be an issue in franchise, or a game play animation that sucks, there's always the same people who will take all of the blame off the developers. Not even just on OS, although it is really apparent here.

It's okay if the game isn't perfect.... It can still be a great game.

You make good points. The automatic haters and automatic apologists do this site a disservice. I also think that people who make claims based on questionable (or no) data do this site a disservice, too, and that this issue often goes unmentioned. A lot of confusion comes about from that, both for OS members looking for a good answer to their issue and for the developers on deciding what needs to be fixed.

Props to the people who test things thoroughly, file bug reports, and post video/detailed scenarios to highlight the issues they are having. This is what helps make this game better than it otherwise would be.