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  • underdog13
    MVP
    • Apr 2012
    • 3222

    #61
    Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.11 Available Now, Patch Notes Here

    Originally posted by iorg16
    that's the main bottom line. I would guess 75% of the people on here have never even picked up a real baseball or played a game in real life. They just don't understand the game. They all just want swing at first pitch 500 foot home runs. When they don't get them, "the game needs tweaking".
    I'd bet 99% of Mlb The Show's players have played baseball before

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    • jvalverde88
      Moderator
      • Jun 2008
      • 11787

      #62
      Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.11 Available Now, Patch Notes Here

      Originally posted by iorg16
      that's the main bottom line. I would guess 75% of the people on here have never even picked up a real baseball or played a game in real life. They just don't understand the game. They all just want swing at first pitch 500 foot home runs. When they don't get them, "the game needs tweaking".
      When it comes to being off base, you'd be picked off by a catcher with a prosthetic arm.
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      • jb12780
        Hall of Fame
        • Oct 2008
        • 10665

        #63
        Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.11 Available Now, Patch Notes Here

        With some of the baserunning decisions I've seen in online play, I do wonder how much of the community has actually played.

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        • loso_34
          MVP
          • Jul 2010
          • 1344

          #64
          Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.11 Available Now, Patch Notes Here

          There was nothing wrong with hitting. I get it tho there were a ton of complaints.

          I hope they tweak timing and pitch speed for zone hitting next year. It's the cause of all this. Guys think cause they lineup the plate coverage indicator it should always be a hr.

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          • Charvalos
            Rookie
            • Oct 2016
            • 310

            #65
            Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.11 Available Now, Patch Notes Here

            Personnally, I feel like the CPU is much more rewarded with a good swing than the User. I can hit a ball right in the middle of the strike zone with a good swing with a great hitter and to see a lazy flyball or a weak groundball while the CPU has always a good hit, even with a bad hitter, where he hits a groundball right between the infielders, a popup just between the infielders & outfielders or good line drive.

            Just for example on the last match I played, I had "only" 5 hits after 6 innings. I simulated the end of the match and my team finished with 13 hits.

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            • impressions
              Rookie
              • Jul 2004
              • 4

              #66
              Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.11 Available Now, Patch Notes Here

              Originally posted by iorg16
              that's the main bottom line. I would guess 75% of the people on here have never even picked up a real baseball or played a game in real life. They just don't understand the game. They all just want swing at first pitch 500 foot home runs. When they don't get them, "the game needs tweaking".
              I don't think everything should be a homerun, but it should at least be a hit when the ball is dead center of my zone down the middle of the plate and I have good timing. Way too many pop fly balls on those type of hits.

              I'm okay with 1-2 hits like that going no where, but when it happens 5-6 times a game it gets stupid.

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              • gp005
                Rookie
                • Jan 2017
                • 279

                #67
                Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.11 Available Now, Patch Notes Here

                Originally posted by Charvalos
                Personnally, I feel like the CPU is much more rewarded with a good swing than the User. I can hit a ball right in the middle of the strike zone with a good swing with a great hitter and to see a lazy flyball or a weak groundball while the CPU has always a good hit, even with a bad hitter, where he hits a groundball right between the infielders, a popup just between the infielders & outfielders or good line drive.

                Just for example on the last match I played, I had "only" 5 hits after 6 innings. I simulated the end of the match and my team finished with 13 hits.
                i think CPU has an advantage on everything.... ive played 110 games in my franchise all with auto fielding , baserunning and throwing.. ive been caught staeling 26 time and picked off at least 10 times... CPU 2 caught stealing and no pick offs...lol ...
                i just played a game where everything felt "scripted" ( i hate using that word) but its how it felt... melvin upton fouled off everything , balls in the dirt, up high, everything.. finally he gets a swinging bunt safe at first... ok (the score is 5-4 for me Btm 8th) next batter is joe mauer.. first pitch strike down the middle which Russ martin drops and upton breaks for 2nd.. martin throws to second and upton is out by a mile, NO WAIT tulo cant catch E6, Upton safe at 2nd... hahhaha.. mauer then hits an oppo field single off the wall against a lefty!
                next batter is Altuve (im playing against the astros) and i see the hit and run pop up, so like anyone would i throw the ball way out the strike zone, mauer breaks and off course Altuve hits a single the advances mauer to 3rd..(i dont even know how he reached the ball, he's 5'4 lol... the ball was so far outside)
                i just couldnt finish the rest of the game and i dont know if i wanna play again

                i dont mind losing but not like this...
                maybe im just venting here and most likely will play the game first thing in the morning.... hahaha
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                • The Chef
                  Moderator
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 13684

                  #68
                  Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.11 Available Now, Patch Notes Here

                  Originally posted by impressions
                  I don't think everything should be a homerun, but it should at least be a hit when the ball is dead center of my zone down the middle of the plate and I have good timing. Way too many pop fly balls on those type of hits.

                  I'm okay with 1-2 hits like that going no where, but when it happens 5-6 times a game it gets stupid.
                  Thing is there are many factors involved and if it played out the way you seem to prefer it then those ratings would be pointless. Timing is great but it only means you weren't late or in front of the pitch, but it has nothing to do with the placement of the bat obviously. I assume when you say "dead center of my zone" you're referencing the batting reticule and not meaning dead center of the plate?

                  The thing is vision plays into the ability to square it up so maybe that player has poor vision so even though you lined it up well that particular players vision came into play and he didn't make solid contact. Is that player suffering through a cold streak? Is the opposing pitcher sporting a solid H/9 rating? Is the opposing pitcher on a hot streak of their own?

                  I just played LA last night and they had Kershaw on the mound. He has a 90+ H/9 rating and multiple times I had good timing yet I swung and missed (I use directional for hitting) and Kershaw ended up striking me out 16 times (19 total) so it was a rather disgusting performance. Having said that I did connect on a solo HR but that was all the offense I could muster on my way to a 3-1 loss.

                  Basically having it lined up and having good timing shouldn't produce consistent results if we all want an actual simulation style experience.
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                  • Charvalos
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2016
                    • 310

                    #69
                    Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.11 Available Now, Patch Notes Here

                    The last match I played was even worst :

                    - I had at least 10 ball which ended right to the middle of the strike zone and none have been hit for a base hit despite a good timing with a very good hitter.
                    - I had 4-5 pitches where the ball didn't hit the bat but passed right through the bat.

                    I'm glad that Madden is coming soon. I really enjoyed playing MLB The Show at the beginning but the last patches have just messed the game.

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                    • Padgoi
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 1873

                      #70
                      Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.11 Available Now, Patch Notes Here

                      Originally posted by gp005
                      i think CPU has an advantage on everything.... ive played 110 games in my franchise all with auto fielding , baserunning and throwing.. ive been caught staeling 26 time and picked off at least 10 times... CPU 2 caught stealing and no pick offs...lol ...
                      i just played a game where everything felt "scripted" ( i hate using that word) but its how it felt... melvin upton fouled off everything , balls in the dirt, up high, everything.. finally he gets a swinging bunt safe at first... ok (the score is 5-4 for me Btm 8th) next batter is joe mauer.. first pitch strike down the middle which Russ martin drops and upton breaks for 2nd.. martin throws to second and upton is out by a mile, NO WAIT tulo cant catch E6, Upton safe at 2nd... hahhaha.. mauer then hits an oppo field single off the wall against a lefty!
                      next batter is Altuve (im playing against the astros) and i see the hit and run pop up, so like anyone would i throw the ball way out the strike zone, mauer breaks and off course Altuve hits a single the advances mauer to 3rd..(i dont even know how he reached the ball, he's 5'4 lol... the ball was so far outside)
                      i just couldnt finish the rest of the game and i dont know if i wanna play again

                      i dont mind losing but not like this...
                      maybe im just venting here and most likely will play the game first thing in the morning.... hahaha
                      No matter what anyone says, things like this have existed in every rendition of the show and will continue to. Basically the game is "balancing" itself in the sense that you can't win every game. I've had countless experiences like this over the years. I've had a few rage quits but after a while you have to just to learn to accept the good with the bad.

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                      • countryboy
                        Growing pains
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 52720

                        #71
                        Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.11 Available Now, Patch Notes Here



                        Here come the conspiracy theories






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                        • gp005
                          Rookie
                          • Jan 2017
                          • 279

                          #72
                          Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.11 Available Now, Patch Notes Here

                          hahha no conspiracies here man.. ive been playing this game a long time and have taken my share of loses.. heck, i've still never won a world series but when crap like this happens, it just makes me shake my head!

                          the games before these posts, i lost 10-4 and 10-3 and i never felt cheated or "scripted" i was just crap.. im 62-50 and in a heated race
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                          • BigOscar
                            MVP
                            • May 2016
                            • 2971

                            #73
                            Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.11 Available Now, Patch Notes Here

                            Originally posted by Charvalos
                            Personnally, I feel like the CPU is much more rewarded with a good swing than the User. I can hit a ball right in the middle of the strike zone with a good swing with a great hitter and to see a lazy flyball or a weak groundball while the CPU has always a good hit, even with a bad hitter, where he hits a groundball right between the infielders, a popup just between the infielders & outfielders or good line drive.

                            Just for example on the last match I played, I had "only" 5 hits after 6 innings. I simulated the end of the match and my team finished with 13 hits.
                            Well the computer and human players have completely separate sliders, so it's easily possible that the default sliders have the computer with a higher solid hits and power, as those are the things that patch 1.08 downgraded. Whether they downgraded them for the computer as well as the human, I don't know, I don't think so based on how nicely they occasionally hit moonshots with low power players, in a way that for humans has been very, very uncommon since that patch.

                            Easily fixable if you think it is the case though, just either increase the human power/solid hits slider or lower the computers.

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                            • countryboy
                              Growing pains
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 52720

                              #74
                              Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.11 Available Now, Patch Notes Here

                              Originally posted by gp005
                              hahha no conspiracies here man.. ive been playing this game a long time and have taken my share of loses.. heck, i've still never won a world series but when crap like this happens, it just makes me shake my head!



                              the games before these posts, i lost 10-4 and 10-3 and i never felt cheated or "scripted" i was just crap.. im 62-50 and in a heated race


                              Don't feel bad, I've never won the World Series either

                              We've all experienced tough losses. It's baseball, it happens. But on the flip side I would venture to guess that we've all experienced some miraculous wins as well.

                              Though the come from behind wins are rarely spoken about, much less linked to "scripting"


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                              • Padgoi
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 1873

                                #75
                                Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.11 Available Now, Patch Notes Here

                                Originally posted by countryboy
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                                Here come the conspiracy theories

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