Does MLB 17 rotate the interleague schedule from year to year

[countryboy]

Re: Does MLB 17 rotate the interleague schedule from year to year

I know they dont have as big of staff as those other do. It just seems they are starting to cater more to the online, casual fans, fantasy teams, you know the things like your seeing with other sports, VC, or as they call them stubbs in MLBTS. I get it, it is after all a business, and the main goal as a business is to make money, but over the years these devs lend more towards the hard core baseball fans, franchise players, more so than the other sports companies 2k and EA were. It just seems they have started to lean towards those types, more than the franchise players. Like I said maybe 18 will be the yr they put more emphasis back on Franchise. Most dont even like the new budget system,lol, I think you even made the comment you werent fond of it if I remember correctly. Scouting/drafting still isnt top notch. We had more ST'ing ball parks on old gen,lol.

Dont get me wrong MLBTS still is a solid game, but even skipping 16 due to my wife and I having a tight budget due to some health issues, I would have thought 17 would have wowed me more, with me not playing 16. I guess I just expected a bigger jump in that regard is all.

Again if all they cared about were stubs then why did we get:

New player models

New ball physics

New Humanity AI

New lighting

New presentation package

New commentators


This whole I didn't get what I want so they don't care mentality is silly, as is the they only care about online/stub modes.

Those things I mentioned were all community requests from this community.


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[CaseIH]

Re: Does MLB 17 rotate the interleague schedule from year to year

Again if all they cared about were stubs then why did we get:

New player models

New ball physics

New Humanity AI

New lighting

New presentation package

New commentators


This whole I didn't get what I want so they don't care mentality is silly, as is the they only care about online/stub modes.

Those things I mentioned were all community requests from this community.


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Never said thats all they care about, maybe Im not explaining myself clear enough. I was using the way other sports games seem to be heading towards, and dont want to see MLBTS head down that same route.

New AI, not many if any are impressed with this, hopefully it improves next yr. The other things you mentioned, Im happy with

Anyone who thinks this Franchise is improving at a good pace each yr, clearly doesnt have much expectation of the game after all these years.

Im sure Interleague scheduling in the future seasons, probably is difficult to implement, but after all these yrs, they still havent figures this out. Yeah I know small dev team compared to others, but dont these other companies also make more games than these guys do, hence why they have a smaller team? I dont know Im asking, so dont go off thinking Im attacking them for being lazy or whatever.

I use to set back and not ever say anything against MLBTS, because it typically was a solid game with fewer issues than your other sports games after they finished patching. But there has been a lack of progress within Franchise mode, I dont know how anyone could say otherwise, unless somehow have ties to the game or devs in anyway that is.

All because you point out something tha may be a negative, doesnt mean your attacking those who make the game, yet some hear feel the need to argue and dispute anyone who says anything remotely negative. Negative feedback is what gets things to improve if done in the right way, and I dont think I have trashed the game or the devs in anyway, by wanting to see a better and deeper Franchise mode. If I have I appologize, thats not my intention.

[countryboy]

Re: Does MLB 17 rotate the interleague schedule from year to year

Never said thats all they care about, maybe Im not explaining myself clear enough. I was using the way other sports games seem to be heading towards, and dont want to see MLBTS head down that same route.

New AI, not many if any are impressed with this, hopefully it improves next yr. The other things you mentioned, Im happy with

Anyone who thinks this Franchise is improving at a good pace each yr, clearly doesnt have much expectation of the game after all these years.

Im sure Interleague scheduling in the future seasons, probably is difficult to implement, but after all these yrs, they still havent figures this out. Yeah I know small dev team compared to others, but dont these other companies also make more games than these guys do, hence why they have a smaller team? I dont know Im asking, so dont go off thinking Im attacking them for being lazy or whatever.

I use to set back and not ever say anything against MLBTS, because it typically was a solid game with fewer issues than your other sports games after they finished patching. But there has been a lack of progress within Franchise mode, I dont know how anyone could say otherwise, unless somehow have ties to the game or devs in anyway that is.

All because you point out something tha may be a negative, doesnt mean your attacking those who make the game, yet some hear feel the need to argue and dispute anyone who says anything remotely negative. Negative feedback is what gets things to improve if done in the right way, and I dont think I have trashed the game or the devs in anyway, by wanting to see a better and deeper Franchise mode. If I have I appologize, thats not my intention.

My apologies you said leaning towards. Either way my point remains, if they were "leaning " that way then you wouldn't have seen the improvements we saw.

I don't know if anyone who is a franchise player is content with the the way it is, meaning they don't want improvements. But that doesn't mean they can't enjoy it for what it does offer.

No the devs on NBA 2K, madden or NHL don't make any other games. They work year round on their respective game.

There has been progress in franchise mode. Maybe not what we want but it hasn't been the exact same year in and year out. And typical troll response whereas everyone agrees with your opinion or they have ties to the game.

Since you're quoting me I'll respond to the last paragraph personally. Nothing wrong with negative feedback as I've shared my negative feedback on the game.

What I don't like is when people make baseless accusations, make false statements, or try to pass their opinion as fact. It has become the norm on the forums these days and quite frankly it's growing tiresome.

If one wants to discuss shortcomings and how to correct or bounce ideas that's great. That's how the forums used to be.

If one wants to make false statements about the thought process of the devs simply because they didn't get something they want, well that does nothing to improve the game.


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[CaseIH]

Re: Does MLB 17 rotate the interleague schedule from year to year

My apologies you said leaning towards. Either way my point remains, if they were "leaning " that way then you wouldn't have seen the improvements we saw.

I don't know if anyone who is a franchise player is content with the the way it is, meaning they don't want improvements. But that doesn't mean they can't enjoy it for what it does offer.

No the devs on NBA 2K, madden or NHL don't make any other games. They work year round on their respective game.

There has been progress in franchise mode. Maybe not what we want but it hasn't been the exact same year in and year out. And typical troll response whereas everyone agrees with your opinion or they have ties to the game.

Since you're quoting me I'll respond to the last paragraph personally. Nothing wrong with negative feedback as I've shared my negative feedback on the game.

What I don't like is when people make baseless accusations, make false statements, or try to pass their opinion as fact. It has become the norm on the forums these days and quite frankly it's growing tiresome.

If one wants to discuss shortcomings and how to correct or bounce ideas that's great. That's how the forums used to be.

If one wants to make false statements about the thought process of the devs simply because they didn't get something they want, well that does nothing to improve the game.


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I dont think I made any false statements, if I cam across like that or it sounds like I think the devs dont care, then Im sorry, that wasnt my attention in the thread I made or in this thread.

I do think the devs care of this game, always felt that way, do I feel that maybe us Franchise only guys are a dying breed and possibly why Franchise mode isnt improving as quickly as I and others feel it should be, yeah, but in no way do I think these devs could care less.

Maybe there is something to this theory that sports video games improve faster when they have competition, even if that competition is inferior. Madden has been basically been a joke since they have been the only game football sim on the market. NBA2k18 had Live this yr and majority feel this is the best overall gameplay ever for NBA2k.
So could it be possible even with how bad MLB2k was, that if The Show had even inferior competition like MLB2k was, would we see Franchise improving quicker? Whats your thought on this? Im not trying to say they have gotten lazy, I know thats not the case atleast when it comes to MLBTS devs, I do know that much. Curious your thoughts on this CB, as I know we are disagreeing on some things, but I do value your opinion, Ive always thought you were a good poster, who has always tried to help others out around here.

[countryboy]

Re: Does MLB 17 rotate the interleague schedule from year to year

I dont think I made any false statements, if I cam across like that or it sounds like I think the devs dont care, then Im sorry, that wasnt my attention in the thread I made or in this thread.

I do think the devs care of this game, always felt that way, do I feel that maybe us Franchise only guys are a dying breed and possibly why Franchise mode isnt improving as quickly as I and others feel it should be, yeah, but in no way do I think these devs could care less.

Maybe there is something to this theory that sports video games improve faster when they have competition, even if that competition is inferior. Madden has been basically been a joke since they have been the only game football sim on the market. NBA2k18 had Live this yr and majority feel this is the best overall gameplay ever for NBA2k.
So could it be possible even with how bad MLB2k was, that if The Show had even inferior competition like MLB2k was, would we see Franchise improving quicker? Whats your thought on this? Im not trying to say they have gotten lazy, I know thats not the case atleast when it comes to MLBTS devs, I do know that much. Curious your thoughts on this CB, as I know we are disagreeing on some things, but I do value your opinion, Ive always thought you were a good poster, who has always tried to help others out around here.

I wasn't implying that you personally made false statements. I was responding to your suggestion that some in this forum are defending against any negativity posted about the game. I was just letting you know my stance.

Moving on...

I don't think that having MLB 2K or MVP or another game matters to how SDS develops their game. Like I've said, they took a huge swing at '17 this year by implementing new ball physics, new player models, etc...etc... So I would think that if they were resting on their laurels as being the only game in town, that we probably don't see those additions made.

As for franchise. We were made aware this year that they only had one developer completely dedicated to franchise mode. Whether it has been like that in year's past I don't know, but it was stated that it was the case for '17. Personally, I'd like to see more than that. Hell, if I'm being honest, I'd like to see them only have three divisions of developers, Franchise, Presentation and Gameplay. But unfortunately that isn't the case and will never be the case because despite my opinions of them, Diamond Dynasty, Online, and RTTS are modes that other gamers and baseball fans like to play.

Would franchise mode progress quicker with competition? I honestly don't think so. While there are certainly things that I and the community want to see added to franchise mode, its not like its barebones. They have a lot of the necessities of franchise mode in the game. Are there things they need to/could/should add? Absolutely. But just because these things haven't been implemented yet doesn't lead me to believe that they are distancing themselves from us franchise players.

Let's remember, they have implemented one of the greatest, at least in my opinion, features to a franchise mode with the introduction of carryover saves. That is huge in my opinion. The ability to carryover a save from year to year and not feel as though I have to rush to get enjoyment/deep into the mode is a blessing.

As for the biggest community requests, create a team/expansion, create a ballpark, I think if these things can be implemented (I often wonder if MLB has some reason for them not being in the game, although I don't know for sure obviously, and honestly wouldn't know why) it is going to be a HUGE undertaking for this development team. And personally, at least for my taste, I hope they fall far down on the list behind other things I'd like to see implemented (rotating IL schedules, edit coaches, see coaching staff for other teams, in season contract extensions, amongst others) And I think, while people may not want to hear this, that carryover saves may play a part as to why things creation things aren't implemented into the game. Again, I have no evidence to back this up, just a personal opinion.

I want to make clear something too....I don't think you're trolling or bashing the devs or anything of the sort. I've always respected your opinion/posts on the boards, just this time I disagree with the notion that the devs are leaning towards modes that provide stubs/microtransactions vs the game as a whole. And I don't think us franchise guys are being ignored.

And I want to say one other thing. I do agree with you in that I wish franchise mode was further along than it currently is. Like I've listed above and said before, there are quite a few things I'd like to see added. There are things I'd like to see improved (looking at you amateur draft). They haven't been added/improved upon yet and while I wish they were, I don't feel as though SDS is forgetting about me. I think they have a plan in place and this year it was implementing new ball physics and player models as the primary focus. I will just hold out hope that next year, '18, they will add some of the things that I, and others, would like to see added to franchise mode. And if they don't, I'll play '18 (if I like it, remember I'm not playing '17) and hope they add them for '19.

[CaseIH]

Re: Does MLB 17 rotate the interleague schedule from year to year

I wasn't implying that you personally made false statements. I was responding to your suggestion that some in this forum are defending against any negativity posted about the game. I was just letting you know my stance.

Moving on...

I don't think that having MLB 2K or MVP or another game matters to how SDS develops their game. Like I've said, they took a huge swing at '17 this year by implementing new ball physics, new player models, etc...etc... So I would think that if they were resting on their laurels as being the only game in town, that we probably don't see those additions made.

As for franchise. We were made aware this year that they only had one developer completely dedicated to franchise mode. Whether it has been like that in year's past I don't know, but it was stated that it was the case for '17. Personally, I'd like to see more than that. Hell, if I'm being honest, I'd like to see them only have three divisions of developers, Franchise, Presentation and Gameplay. But unfortunately that isn't the case and will never be the case because despite my opinions of them, Diamond Dynasty, Online, and RTTS are modes that other gamers and baseball fans like to play.

Would franchise mode progress quicker with competition? I honestly don't think so. While there are certainly things that I and the community want to see added to franchise mode, its not like its barebones. They have a lot of the necessities of franchise mode in the game. Are there things they need to/could/should add? Absolutely. But just because these things haven't been implemented yet doesn't lead me to believe that they are distancing themselves from us franchise players.

Let's remember, they have implemented one of the greatest, at least in my opinion, features to a franchise mode with the introduction of carryover saves. That is huge in my opinion. The ability to carryover a save from year to year and not feel as though I have to rush to get enjoyment/deep into the mode is a blessing.

As for the biggest community requests, create a team/expansion, create a ballpark, I think if these things can be implemented (I often wonder if MLB has some reason for them not being in the game, although I don't know for sure obviously, and honestly wouldn't know why) it is going to be a HUGE undertaking for this development team. And personally, at least for my taste, I hope they fall far down on the list behind other things I'd like to see implemented (rotating IL schedules, edit coaches, see coaching staff for other teams, in season contract extensions, amongst others) And I think, while people may not want to hear this, that carryover saves may play a part as to why things creation things aren't implemented into the game. Again, I have no evidence to back this up, just a personal opinion.

I want to make clear something too....I don't think you're trolling or bashing the devs or anything of the sort. I've always respected your opinion/posts on the boards, just this time I disagree with the notion that the devs are leaning towards modes that provide stubs/microtransactions vs the game as a whole. And I don't think us franchise guys are being ignored.

And I want to say one other thing. I do agree with you in that I wish franchise mode was further along than it currently is. Like I've listed above and said before, there are quite a few things I'd like to see added. There are things I'd like to see improved (looking at you amateur draft). They haven't been added/improved upon yet and while I wish they were, I don't feel as though SDS is forgetting about me. I think they have a plan in place and this year it was implementing new ball physics and player models as the primary focus. I will just hold out hope that next year, '18, they will add some of the things that I, and others, would like to see added to franchise mode. And if they don't, I'll play '18 (if I like it, remember I'm not playing '17) and hope they add them for '19.

Oh I would love to see the ability to edit managers coaches, scouts, I get so sick of the ridiculous names, been hoping for this for ever now,lol.

I didnt realize they had just 1 guy working on Franchise this yr. I agree, with you, if I had my way, it would be identical to yours

[countryboy]

Re: Does MLB 17 rotate the interleague schedule from year to year

Oh I would love to see the ability to edit managers coaches, scouts, I get so sick of the ridiculous names, been hoping for this for ever now,lol.

I didnt realize they had just 1 guy working on Franchise this yr. I agree, with you, if I had my way, it would be identical to yours

Yeah I am begging for the day that I can edit managers and make them matter outside of a letter grade in 4 categories. I want managers to have tendencies (Joe Maddon having weird lineups, pitchers playing left field, power hitters hitting leadoff, stars selling hotdogs in the stands..)

And i hate when I'm playing against a team with a "fake" manager that I can't tell who he is because he wears a jacket no matter what. Aggravates the hell out of me. I've resorted to using a pin and paper in the offseason and marking down who the CPU is targeting as managers, hitting coaches, pitching coaches, and farm directors in hopes of at least securing who their new teams/hires are. It's not 100% foolproof but its working to a degree.

Yeah just 1 guy dedicated to franchise mode this year was what was said earlier in the development or right after release. I was disappointed in it, but again it may have always been this way and we are just now finding out.

Gameplay, presentation, and franchise mode. The only three things I care about in the Show.