MLB The Show 18 Developer Blogs & Twitch Stream Schedule

[kehlis]

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Where are all these figures ?? because I have never filled in a survey to say which mode I play more of... actually has anyone had to do this??

because mostly on here All I seen was a lack of care about DD mode. you only gotta look at the front page and see half of it is RTTS right now and the DD threads and complaining about priorities.

I think those figures they released are false

Here's a link to the post sharing the numbers from another thread here:

https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2049256331&postcount=233

And you don't need to fill out a survey or inform them of mode you are using. They are able to track anyone online which is a pretty large percentage of folks and gives a solid baseline of information.

[ShowTyme15]

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Here's a link to the post sharing the numbers from another thread here:

https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2049256331&postcount=233

And you don't need to fill out a survey or inform them of mode you are using. They are able to track anyone online which is a pretty large percentage of folks and gives a solid baseline of information.

Would assume those numbers doubled in 17.

[ninertravel]

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Here's a link to the post sharing the numbers from another thread here:

https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2049256331&postcount=233

And you don't need to fill out a survey or inform them of mode you are using. They are able to track anyone online which is a pretty large percentage of folks and gives a solid baseline of information.

Thanks for the linke

not everybody has PSN to connect online, you don't have to be online to connect to the net to play MLB the show. you be surprised at how many people don't sign into PSN unless they have to.

I am very surprised that more would play DD, it is really bizarre because of microtransactions are popular and DD and modes like that, I guess us people on the internet and social media are the only people that don't care for them. so all the NON internet users must only care, it's strange the logic in all of this.

anyway. I guess I just have to accept it is what it is.

[ninertravel]

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I fully believe DD is king. There's no way they would hype it so much with the various release options and during the streams if it wasn't. It's also pretty prominent in the in-game menus.

It's almost as if the various game modes exists in two parallel universes. I for one have never had any need whatsoever for pack/stubs/whatever. Couldn't even tell you how they're used.

I would like to know WHY DD is most popular. what is the big attraction for it? is it because you don't have to think or because it is mainstream and people only have to care about the big name players?

I just love franchise because I love having my own real life world of MLB and other universe. and having fun dealing with the Minor league players etc

the 2 things I would love for franchise
Import player option
Single A

but I don't think it will happen as I said before we will get some lame thing like 'sim till you get to a big moment in a game' because of the way they were saying 'less time in franchise' quick counts all this stuff.

Only thing we know we are getting is rain delays but all that really is, is a cut scene and deciding about your pitcher. no double headers etc.

[JayhawkerStL]

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I think that is a complete load of BS....

to suggest that DD is most popular has to be a joke. is it non baseball fans that buy this game or something?>

nobody in here was saying OMG can't wait to see what they did with DD

I care about gameplay #1, and DD #2. I could care less about how much boring stuff they add to franchise play.

I turn 50 this year. I'm just done with franchise modes in all sports games. Ultimate Team rejuvenated my excitement for sports games after decades of franchise play that was always underwhelming. And The Show was no exception.

I play two modes now, for the most part. In addition to the card collecting modes, I like sports games that have turned Play Now into a more relevant mode with current line-ups ands using real life stats to enhance the presentation.

Seriously, I have never been a big fan of The Show, but Diamond Dynasty and the improved Play Now mode finally got me to buy a PS4 last year. Not saying that anyone that prefers full on sim and franchise mode are wrong to like what they like, but neither are the folks that have embraced DD.

[ninertravel]

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I care about gameplay #1, and DD #2. I could care less about how much boring stuff they add to franchise play.

I turn 50 this year. I'm just done with franchise modes in all sports games. Ultimate Team rejuvenated my excitement for sports games after decades of franchise play that was always underwhelming. And The Show was no exception.

I play two modes now, for the most part. In addition to the card collecting modes, I like sports games that have turned Play Now into a more relevant mode with current line-ups ands using real life stats to enhance the presentation.



Seriously, I have never been a big fan of The Show, but Diamond Dynasty and the improved Play Now mode finally got me to buy a PS4 last year. Not saying that anyone that prefers full on sim and franchise mode are wrong to like what they like, but neither are the folks that have embraced DD.

Ok Gotcha, I just have sports games to be like well, the comps in the real world, because stuff like Ultimate team never happens it's completely fictional.

Do you use Micro transactions? does it bother you that constant grinding in these sorts of modes is created for people to eventually get bored and spend money?

I certainly would not like them in franchise mode, could you imagine 'this trade can't happen unless you do this or pay $2 for it to happen of real cash lol'

[BigOscar]

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I wouldn't be at all surprised if DD is the most actually played mode, because it should be. It's by far the best built mode, it's the deepest and there is far more content for it than all the other modes combined.

Franchise is the mode I want to play the most and the actual gameplay in DD doesn't really appeal to me anywhere near as much(hate online, 3 innings is not for me), but DD is put together just so much better than Franchise, that's undeniable.

[JayhawkerStL]

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I would like to know WHY DD is most popular. what is the big attraction for it? is it because you don't have to think or because it is mainstream and people only have to care about the big name players?

I just love franchise because I love having my own real life world of MLB and other universe. and having fun dealing with the Minor league players etc

the 2 things I would love for franchise
Import player option
Single A

but I don't think it will happen as I said before we will get some lame thing like 'sim till you get to a big moment in a game' because of the way they were saying 'less time in franchise' quick counts all this stuff.

Only thing we know we are getting is rain delays but all that really is, is a cut scene and deciding about your pitcher. no double headers etc.

It's not that complicated. As someone that has played franchise modes in sports games since I was playing Stratomatic with dice and cards in the 70's, I've been absolutely underwhelmed with what has passed for franchise modes ever since Front Page Sports bit the dust at the tun of the century. Seriously, when playing FPS FBPro or BBPro, we kind of laughed at what console gamers considered sim.

In truth, franchise modes have only worked when humans were controlling the teams. Period. Yeah, 30 team control can help, but it just adds to the ground. CPU teams cannot mage roster in any way that is acceptable in any sports game I have played. They can't trade, sign and cut, or even set depth charts and lineups in ways that don't make you roll your eyes.

Enter CC games into sports games. Suddenly they hit on the thing many of us did as kids, which was collect baseball cards. We would arrange lineups and sport out all-star teams, and then use them while we played baseball in the back yard. We used the cards to "be" whoever was up next and such.

CC games are deep and strategic. You are working to find the right mix of favorite players and others to form the best team you can. And the constant influx of coins from playing the game means you are always scouting for better cards.

Yes, buying packs can make it easier, but you don't have to. EA figured out that for the system to work you need both bases, those that pay and those that don't. I play to earn X coins to X player from some guy that bought a pack and got a player he would rather sell than use. If I was not there to buy it, he would not buy packs.

In the end, I find it a blast to mange a team this way. It's not sim or anything like that. But it is a great way to play a strategic version of the sports I love, and to play a schedule of online games on my own terms.

And yeah, years of playing fantasy sports helps make the mode easier to understand and appreciate. Playing fantasy sports rejuvenated my interest in sports as it began to wane.

I play video game for fun and escape. I just found that franchise modes, along with sliders and sim or realism, only served to make me miserable every year, as whatever game I was playing failed to live up to expectations. And I don't know that I will ever have time to play ain a 30 man league anymore.

Maybe if they bring back smaller custom leagues I could get interested. I'm not interested in a league in which most of the teams are stupid AI. And certain not interested in a franchise in which all of my opponents are stupid AI. Because as much as I wanted "my own real life world of MLB and other universes," the reality is, I hated the universes that I was being given to play with.

CC modes fixed that. I don't worry about sliders. I don't even worry about sim. I collect cards and build a team of players I love and then play heads up online or play out challenges offline. It's all fun and no headache.

If I could change anything, I would make it a subscription based mode, where we all pay X dollars a month to play. that would make it more strategic and eliminate buying good teams. It would also save those gamers that are vulnerable to overspending on loot boxes.

Think of it like today's kids listening to songs more than albums. They are just reacting to the modern landscape. You can either choose to go out old and grumpy, or you can be an old dog that is willing to lean new tricks.

But rest assured, the rest of the gaming industry is going to keep on keeping on regardless of whether you decide to buy-in or not.

[JayhawkerStL]

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Ok Gotcha, I just have sports games to be like well, the comps in the real world, because stuff like Ultimate team never happens it's completely fictional.

Do you use Micro transactions? does it bother you that constant grinding in these sorts of modes is created for people to eventually get bored and spend money?

I certainly would not like them in franchise mode, could you imagine 'this trade can't happen unless you do this or pay $2 for it to happen of real cash lol'

I usually buy the expensive pre-order edition that provides you extra packs and and such at the start. It's the cheapest way to buy them, and gets you off to a decent start. I will occasionally buy a pack or two, based on deals and what they offer. But mostly, I see a player I want ti the auction house, and ground and do what I can to make the coins I need to afford him.

And playing online provides packs and lots of gold, too. You really don't have to grind as much as you think.

And yes, I prefer the grind of playing games over the ground of assigning XP and trying to wrangle the free agent and trade market. XP is a dumb way to improve your team, and the AI makes signing and trading for guys the opposite of fun.

I know some will assume that franchise is being purposely held back, but seriously, I don't think developers have the tools to really pull off the AI that is needed yet. And DD doesn't require AI, as it is more like a board game, with other humans creating the market. So it is a million times easier to develop a mode around that.

[SilverBullet1929]

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I would like to know WHY DD is most popular. what is the big attraction for it? is it because you don't have to think or because it is mainstream and people only have to care about the big name players?

I've never once played DD and prefer franchise like you but I think you're putting down DD way too hard as something that's only for casual fans and is like baseball for dummies.

It's just a different way to play and I can see how even a hardcore baseball fan would enjoy it as an alternative to the rest of the game. I'm considering trying DD this year and even with all its arcade like things I can see where there is fun in it and it does intrigue me.

[guinness22]

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It's not that complicated. As someone that has played franchise modes in sports games since I was playing Stratomatic with dice and cards in the 70's, I've been absolutely underwhelmed with what has passed for franchise modes ever since Front Page Sports bit the dust at the tun of the century. Seriously, when playing FPS FBPro or BBPro, we kind of laughed at what console gamers considered sim.

In truth, franchise modes have only worked when humans were controlling the teams. Period. Yeah, 30 team control can help, but it just adds to the ground. CPU teams cannot mage roster in any way that is acceptable in any sports game I have played. They can't trade, sign and cut, or even set depth charts and lineups in ways that don't make you roll your eyes.

Enter CC games into sports games. Suddenly they hit on the thing many of us did as kids, which was collect baseball cards. We would arrange lineups and sport out all-star teams, and then use them while we played baseball in the back yard. We used the cards to "be" whoever was up next and such.

CC games are deep and strategic. You are working to find the right mix of favorite players and others to form the best team you can. And the constant influx of coins from playing the game means you are always scouting for better cards.

Yes, buying packs can make it easier, but you don't have to. EA figured out that for the system to work you need both bases, those that pay and those that don't. I play to earn X coins to X player from some guy that bought a pack and got a player he would rather sell than use. If I was not there to buy it, he would not buy packs.

IOn the end, I find it a blast to mange a team this way. It's not sim or anything like that. But it is a great way to play a strategic version of the sports I love, and to play a schedule of online games on my own terms.

And yeah, years of playing fantasy sports helps make the mode easier to understand and appreciate. Playing fantasy sports rejuvenated my interest in sports as it began to wane.

I play video game for fun and escape. I just found that franchise modes, along with sliders and sim or realism, only served to make me miserable every year, as whatever game I was playing failed to live up to expectations. And I don't know that I will ever have time to play ain a 30 man league anymore.

Maybe if they bring back smaller custom leagues I could get interested. I'm not interested in a league in which most of the teams are stupid AI. And certain not interested in a franchise in which all of my opponents are stupid AI. Because as much as I wanted "my own real life world of MLB and other universes," the reality is, I hated the universes that I was being given to play with.

CC modes fixed that. I don't worry about sliders. I don't even worry about sim. I collect cards and build a team of players I love and then play heads up online or play out challenges offline. It's all fun and no headache.

If I could change anything, I would make it a subscription based mode, where we all pay X dollars a month to play. that would make it more strategic and eliminate buying good teams. It would also save those gamers that are vulnerable to overspending on loot boxes.

Thin of it like todays kids listening to songs more than albums. They are just reacting to the modern landscape. You can either choose to go out old and grumpy, or you can be an old dog that is willing to lean new tricks.

But rest assured, the rest of the gaming industry is going to keep on keeping on regardless of whether you decide to buy-in or not.

Had to comment....I just turned 50 and can appreciate a lot of what you say in this post. Even though I am a franchise exclusive player and don't mind the 30 team control grind, your post brought back a lot of memories...haha

g22

[Unlucky 13]

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Just going to leave this here. Great quote by WTNY.

Weather people want to believe it or not DD and RTTS are king followed by Franchise and the Twitch streams are set up that way.

However, isn't it likely that the same people who play mostly DD are also the ones most likely to watch a Twitch stream, or something like it?

I've never had any interest in that at all. Just write a good article and tell me about the game, please!

[ninertravel]

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I dunno people say they OS are only a small amount of people that use franchise mode, but did anyone actually read the Twitch chat during DD?? there was more toxic complaining on there then here. So it can't be just 'us' that use franchise mode.

they all hang around there for a code for the giveaway which I couldn't care less about

[seasprite]

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I think that is a complete load of BS....

to suggest that DD is most popular has to be a joke. is it non baseball fans that buy this game or something?>

nobody in here was saying OMG can't wait to see what they did with DD

You couldn't be more wrong lol

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[WaitTilNextYear]

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DD seems to me like an elaborate baseball-related board game/game show and RTTS seems like a baseball-themed RPG. Neither are my cup of tea, but it's not hard to imagine how people would enjoy that. Nobody should feel the need to have to come on here and justify why they like to play this mode or that mode.