MLB The Show 18 Developer Blogs & Twitch Stream Schedule

[Jeffrey Smith]

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May be that this idea is against the grain, but I’d like a conpletely monetized franchise mode. I would actually pay money for all of the things that I want in franchise mode.

That being a paid dlc to be able to alter prices on concessions. Paid dlc to build a new stadium. Paid dlc to hire and fire coaches. Paid dlc to bring players up/send them down. Just make it worth my while. Make it fully fleshed out and go conpletely in depth. I will actually pay you for that.

I’m so fed up with developers monetizing a card collecting mode that I would pay whatever they ask to just focus on franchise mode for once. Monetize however they want. Offer a season pass. Who cares? Just focus on making a real mode of play that doesn’t focus on cards. Let me pay you to make a complete game mode based entirely around being the general manger of a sports team while being able to play as that team in a realistic fashion.

I WILL PAY FOR IT. Just allow me to pay for the opportunity. Please capitalize off of me. Please.

No thank you.

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[KTBFFH]

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And this is why we will never have a fleshed out franchise mode...

[CrimsionXBL]

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And this is why we will never have a fleshed out franchise mode...

Because people don't want to pay EXTRA for things they A) already have access to, or B) we're in the game in past versions?

We shouldn't be behind a pay wall in order to access ANY of these things, they aren't looking to monetize a mode like franchise, that would hurt sales instead of increasing them.

I don't think the amount of people that would pay to access these things would outweigh those that would not, they'd lose sales of entire copies of games and gain little by people of your nature buying different aspects of franchise mode.

They want to cater to those of various experiences, me being an online franchise guy I have no choice but to go offline this year and for the future, which sucks, but I still enjoy the game and will find a way to enjoy it, I get to experience something within franchise that online hasn't had, well ever.

Which is nice but also taken with a grain of salt as me and my buddies lose the ability to compete amongst one another.

Throw in the fact that I need to buy something to allow me to hire/fire a manager or manage my roster much like NBA 2k14 did, and I'm out.

[Blzer]

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And this is why we will never have a fleshed out franchise mode...

You know, it's not always true that you get what you pay for. It's also not always true that you don't get what you don't pay for.

[KTBFFH]

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Because people don't want to pay EXTRA for things they A) already have access to, or B) we're in the game in past versions?

We shouldn't be behind a pay wall in order to access ANY of these things, they aren't looking to monetize a mode like franchise, that would hurt sales instead of increasing them.

I don't think the amount of people that would pay to access these things would outweigh those that would not, they'd lose sales of entire copies of games and gain little by people of your nature buying different aspects of franchise mode.

They want to cater to those of various experiences, me being an online franchise guy I have no choice but to go offline this year and for the future, which sucks, but I still enjoy the game and will find a way to enjoy it, I get to experience something within franchise that online hasn't had, well ever.

Which is nice but also taken with a grain of salt as me and my buddies lose the ability to compete amongst one another.

Throw in the fact that I need to buy something to allow me to hire/fire a manager or manage my roster much like NBA 2k14 did, and I'm out.

It's fine if you're out. That crosses the line for you, and that's fine. Some people will pay for it. Are you saying people who are willing to pay for online franchise or any of the other features I mentioned should not be allowed to pay for it with their own hard earned money?

Price fixing has been around since video games became $60. Meanwhile more and more features have been demanded. Customers in no way respect the cost to do so. We demand features at no extra cost. That's unreasonable.

If SDS were to monetize franchise mode, some people would pay and some wouldn't. If we get more than what we get now, what is the actual harm to you?

[KTBFFH]

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Or say we get the same franchise mode we've had for several years now for $60 and if we want extra, we can pay extra. Would that be reasonable? I just think it's okay to pay more money for a product that goes above and beyond my expectations. I think that's okay, and I would encourage more developers to push the envelope when it comes to pricing. So long as it brings actual value to the market.

In other words, there's a reason a Trane HVAC costs differently than a Daikin. And it's okay to have different pricing. People should be able to choose their level of involvement, and especially so when it benefits both the consumer and the producer.

[MLB14]

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I think that is a complete load of BS....

to suggest that DD is most popular has to be a joke. is it non baseball fans that buy this game or something?>

nobody in here was saying OMG can't wait to see what they did with DD

I'd bet money DD is their most popular mode. There's like 1,000 people on this forum. That isn't a lot when you consider about a million people buy the game.

[Unlucky 13]

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That's actually a worst case scenario because of the revenue generated by those modes. If a competitor came out with those modes being their sole purpose SDS would be forced to spend more time focusing on them. Not less.

That would completely leave franchise in the dust. Sometimes you guy need to think of the business side of things rather than with your heart. Selling and improving franchise has a finite end. Anything other than that does not.

But if they aren't doing anything with franchise, then what does it matter? I mean, if MLB 2020 is essentially the same game, franchise-wise, as 2016 but with a roster update, then its meaningless for those of us who only play the mode.

I reluctantly accept that the younger generation sees things differently, and that the game manufacturer will pander to where the money is, but if no one is going to make the game that I want to play, where am I left then? Its a very helpless and low place.

[EnigmaNemesis]

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No paying extra, lol. Do not be hung up on the cost, it is not the cost that is preventing, it is the timetable in a 9month span to get a game shipped; budgeted within that timespan with what can, and cannot be done every year.

Saying 'we will pay extra' (which we should not), is not going to magically give them more time to cover every mode in 9months.

They get extra revenue through the card packs/stubs, as well as the various retail versions (Digital Deluxe/MVP/ALL RISE/Etc).

[Minookacubfan73]

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The problem becomes, once the game company knows fans will pay extra, they start planning modes/levels/characters/equipment that should have been included with the game in the first place. If a game has been out for a while and the developer wants to extend the life by adding a new level or idea that WASNT originally planned, then that's awesome. If they plan out the fact that hey we will release this level one month after release and charge extra, that is ludicrous. We shouldn't have to pay $60 or more for a game, then an additional $30 for a season pass. In the old days, games were built as completely as possible, which I think is why they were generally more functioning from the start. So if you want to pay for Franchise options that should really be included, it does hurt others, because they will be forced to do the same if they want those features. Many companies (SSDS not generally being one of them) take advantage of the fans desire which traps needed items/modes behind pay walls for every player. It would be like these developers releasing the opening day roster, removing create a player and then charging for any new players who are called up throughout the year.

[CrimsionXBL]

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It's fine if you're out. That crosses the line for you, and that's fine. Some people will pay for it. Are you saying people who are willing to pay for online franchise or any of the other features I mentioned should not be allowed to pay for it with their own hard earned money?

Price fixing has been around since video games became $60. Meanwhile more and more features have been demanded. Customers in no way respect the cost to do so. We demand features at no extra cost. That's unreasonable.

If SDS were to monetize franchise mode, some people would pay and some wouldn't. If we get more than what we get now, what is the actual harm to you?

Never did I say people shouldn't be allowed to spend their money, but to have to pay for simplistic features like that just isn't a proper business model, nor would having to pay for a specific mode such as OF that was in the game beforehand.

Like the poster above me stated, it's not a money issue, they already have people paying $130 (CAD) for the all rise edition, I'm sure they're fine on the money side of things, you simply can't purchase more time to work on the game.

[kehlis]

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But if they aren't doing anything with franchise, then what does it matter? I mean, if MLB 2020 is essentially the same game, franchise-wise, as 2016 but with a roster update, then its meaningless for those of us who only play the mode.



I reluctantly accept that the younger generation sees things differently, and that the game manufacturer will pander to where the money is, but if no one is going to make the game that I want to play, where am I left then? Its a very helpless and low place.

I was commenting only on the hypothetical scenario that the other game would be micro transaction based only with no franchise mode and the theory that it would allow SDS to get rid of their micro transactions.

I’m not speaking on the idea of competition at all.

[KTBFFH]

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The problem becomes, once the game company knows fans will pay extra, they start planning modes/levels/characters/equipment that should have been included with the game in the first place. If a game has been out for a while and the developer wants to extend the life by adding a new level or idea that WASNT originally planned, then that's awesome. If they plan out the fact that hey we will release this level one month after release and charge extra, that is ludicrous. We shouldn't have to pay $60 or more for a game, then an additional $30 for a season pass. In the old days, games were built as completely as possible, which I think is why they were generally more functioning from the start. So if you want to pay for Franchise options that should really be included, it does hurt others, because they will be forced to do the same if they want those features. Many companies (SSDS not generally being one of them) take advantage of the fans desire which traps needed items/modes behind pay walls for every player. It would be like these developers releasing the opening day roster, removing create a player and then charging for any new players who are called up throughout the year.

Right, I agree with you. But the consumer does not set the price. We set the value of a product. No one is forced to do anything in any market except in a planned economy. My buying something will not force you to buy it. This can be exemplified with 4K TVs. Just because I buy one does not force you to buy one, though it could be argued, I have a product capable of doing something your TV should be able to do.

Were SDS to offer the products I asked for, you would in no way be disadvantaged if you chose to not buy them. You would have simply chosen to not participate. AND THAT'S OKAY.

[KTBFFH]

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Never did I say people shouldn't be allowed to spend their money, but to have to pay for simplistic features like that just isn't a proper business model, nor would having to pay for a specific mode such as OF that was in the game beforehand.

Like the poster above me stated, it's not a money issue, they already have people paying $130 (CAD) for the all rise edition, I'm sure they're fine on the money side of things, you simply can't purchase more time to work on the game.

It won't provide them with extra time, of course. It could very well provide them with extra manpower, resources, etc. That's the reality. It's not time. It's how many people can produce a product in the time period with given resources.

[KTBFFH]

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Never did I say people shouldn't be allowed to spend their money, but to have to pay for simplistic features like that just isn't a proper business model, nor would having to pay for a specific mode such as OF that was in the game beforehand.

Like the poster above me stated, it's not a money issue, they already have people paying $130 (CAD) for the all rise edition, I'm sure they're fine on the money side of things, you simply can't purchase more time to work on the game.

I think it would be pretty cool to offer the ALL RISE EDITION to diamond dynasty fans for whatever price as well as another edition at the same price for franchise or online franchise fans, so long as it provided an load of extra content that I have previously mentioned, such as coaching carousel, stadium expansion/rebuilding, relocation, GM pricing, etc.