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  • merchant1874
    MVP
    • Aug 2009
    • 1337

    #196
    Re: PS4 PRO question

    Originally posted by Drty_Windshield
    I think you might not understand how super sampling works. Super sampling is a way to achieve better visuals for people without 4k displays. A super sampled image on a 1080p display will look better than a natively rendered 1080p image. Super sampling renders the image at a higher resolution than the display can handle then down scales the image to fit a 1080p display, for example. Basically, it will look like the super sampled image has better anti aliasing / less jaggies. If you play on a 4k display there is no reason to super sample the image.

    Also, enhanced visual mode is useless on a 1080p display, as all it does is natively render the image at 1440p instead of 1080p. If you use enhanced visual mode on a 1080p display it is very much the same as super sampling, expect that the visual gains would be very minimal if any.
    Yeah I know what it does I use it all the time on my PC, sorry if my wording was confusing. The reason i wasn't sure about the enhanced visuals mode Super sampling is because im not clear exactly what "enhanced visuals" means in the Show. Interesting you are saying it renders to 1440p.

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    • breakfastcat
      MVP
      • Jan 2013
      • 1018

      #197
      Re: PS4 PRO question

      Originally posted by merchant1874
      Yeah I know what it does I use it all the time on my PC, sorry if my wording was confusing. The reason i wasn't sure about the enhanced visuals mode Super sampling is because im not clear exactly what "enhanced visuals" means in the Show. Interesting you are saying it renders to 1440p.
      Enhanced Visuals mode is 1440p at roughly the same framerate as a base PS4. I don't believe MLBTS17 does any super sampling for non 4K TVs, but I could be wrong.

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      • Blzer
        Resident film pundit
        • Mar 2004
        • 42515

        #198
        Re: PS4 PRO question

        Originally posted by breakfastcat
        Enhanced Visuals mode is 1440p at roughly the same framerate as a base PS4. I don't believe MLBTS17 does any super sampling for non 4K TVs, but I could be wrong.
        Supposedly the new 5.50 FW update allows for super-sampling on the PS4 Pro, which I believe because I can now access those options and the framerate stutters much more on 4K than anything else. I just don't see a perceivable difference, or at least not an important enough difference to justify getting off of HFR mode.
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        • breakfastcat
          MVP
          • Jan 2013
          • 1018

          #199
          Re: PS4 PRO question

          Originally posted by Blzer
          Supposedly the new 5.50 FW update allows for super-sampling on the PS4 Pro, which I believe because I can now access those options and the framerate stutters much more on 4K than anything else. I just don't see a perceivable difference, or at least not an important enough difference to justify getting off of HFR more.
          TBH I don't notice much of a difference between EV and 4K modes on my 4K TV. I'd even go to say EV looks better than 4K because the choppy frame rate makes everything harder to see clearly. However I have noticed a pretty big difference between EV and HFR in image quality to the point where I use EV more than I thought I would. The lettering on the jerseys is especially crisp and the overall lack of jaggies compared to HFR is very pleasing to the eye. Still can't beat the smoothness of HFR when it comes to gameplay though.

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          • wisdom less13
            Pro
            • Jun 2005
            • 992

            #200
            Re: PS4 PRO question

            Wife won a lower end 4k HDR television the other day. Same day she paid off my All Rise edition on the way home. I had a pro before that with a normal 1080p plasma. To anyone who asks if it's worth it without 4k? Yes. It's better hardware. Playing The Show in high frame rate is how it's supposed to be. With the addition of boost mode and now supersampling, do it. If you can, of course. PS4 Pro added to an already amazing system. This is all my opinion, of course. I enjoy higher frame rates, faster loading times, and options between those and visual enhancements. Try watching a Digital Foundry video on YouTube to explain the in's and out's of what you get out of the system...
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            • TheBleedingRed21
              Game Dev
              • Oct 2010
              • 5071

              #201
              Re: PS4 PRO question

              Originally posted by wisdom less13
              Wife won a lower end 4k HDR television the other day. Same day she paid off my All Rise edition on the way home. I had a pro before that with a normal 1080p plasma. To anyone who asks if it's worth it without 4k? Yes. It's better hardware. Playing The Show in high frame rate is how it's supposed to be. With the addition of boost mode and now supersampling, do it. If you can, of course. PS4 Pro added to an already amazing system. This is all my opinion, of course. I enjoy higher frame rates, faster loading times, and options between those and visual enhancements. Try watching a Digital Foundry video on YouTube to explain the in's and out's of what you get out of the system...
              You are dead right. No reason to NOT have a Pro if you play The Show (let alone many other games), it’s a game changer.

              Just one FYI: boost mode does nothing for games already made to take advantage of the Pros extra power.
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              • goillini03
                MVP
                • Nov 2005
                • 1247

                #202
                Re: PS4 PRO question

                Originally posted by wisdom less13
                Wife won a lower end 4k HDR television the other day. Same day she paid off my All Rise edition on the way home. I had a pro before that with a normal 1080p plasma. To anyone who asks if it's worth it without 4k? Yes. It's better hardware. Playing The Show in high frame rate is how it's supposed to be. With the addition of boost mode and now supersampling, do it. If you can, of course. PS4 Pro added to an already amazing system. This is all my opinion, of course. I enjoy higher frame rates, faster loading times, and options between those and visual enhancements. Try watching a Digital Foundry video on YouTube to explain the in's and out's of what you get out of the system...


                She sounds like a keeper and great feedback!

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                • wisdom less13
                  Pro
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 992

                  #203
                  Re: PS4 PRO question

                  Originally posted by TheBleedingRed21
                  You are dead right. No reason to NOT have a Pro if you play The Show (let alone many other games), it’s a game changer.

                  Just one FYI: boost mode does nothing for games already made to take advantage of the Pros extra power.
                  My bad. I meant for the games that use it. Thanks for clarification.

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                  • wisdom less13
                    Pro
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 992

                    #204
                    Re: PS4 PRO question

                    Originally posted by goillini03
                    She sounds like a keeper and great feedback!
                    She's the bomb. No problem. I love this console. She's aiight, too...

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                    • HypoLuxa13
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 1156

                      #205
                      Re: PS4 PRO question

                      You guys all suck. You MADE me just order a PS4 Pro. And I needed a new monitor anyway, cause I moved my PS4 to be hooked up to my desktop display in my office instead of the big TV in the living room. So I ordered a Samsung 28" UE590 also.

                      I'm sure my wife will totally believe me when I tell her "It wasn't my fault that I bought them, it was the guys on Operation Sports! They made me do it for MLB 18!"
                      Last edited by HypoLuxa13; 03-14-2018, 02:38 PM.

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                      • wisdom less13
                        Pro
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 992

                        #206
                        Re: PS4 PRO question

                        Originally posted by HypoLuxa13
                        You guys all suck. You MADE me just order a PS4 Pro. And I needed a new monitor anyway, cause I moved my PS4 to be hooked up to my desktop display in my office instead of the big TV in the living room. So I ordered a Samsung 28" UE590 also.

                        I'm sure my wife will totally believe me when I tell her "It wasn't my fault that I bought them, it was the guys on Operation Sports! They made me do it for MLB 18!"
                        Tell her we said, "You're welcome"!
                        Last edited by wisdom less13; 03-14-2018, 02:42 PM. Reason: Punctuation is key
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                        • puppies_on_acid
                          French Fried Taters, mhmm
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 343

                          #207
                          Re: PS4 PRO question

                          Because all of you kept talking about how much better The Show is on the Pro I finally broke down and traded in my ps4 for the pro today. Haven't had a chance to put it through its paces yet, but I definitely will later tonight!
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                          • ninertravel
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 4833

                            #208
                            Re: PS4 PRO question

                            Think I will wait till my original PS4 dies. still got a PS2 PS3 (the first ones died of those) and PSX. usually they die after a 4 year cycle I remember MLB the show 12 killed my first PS3 fat LOL

                            but to get a pro is only useful if I buy another TV because my TV is 7 years old and not 4k, so I really don't want spend over $2000 just for a small upgrade

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                            • wisdom less13
                              Pro
                              • Jun 2005
                              • 992

                              #209
                              Re: PS4 PRO question

                              Originally posted by ninertravel
                              Think I will wait till my original PS4 dies. still got a PS2 PS3 (the first ones died of those) and PSX. usually they die after a 4 year cycle I remember MLB the show 12 killed my first PS3 fat LOL

                              but to get a pro is only useful if I buy another TV because my TV is 7 years old and not 4k, so I really don't want spend over $2000 just for a small upgrade
                              Buy it anyway and collect. I have two Xbox Ones and three 360s. Seriously, I feel you on the cash. You can find a kick *** TV open boxed at Best Buy on the CHEAP. Might find gold...
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                              • Drty_Windshield
                                Banned
                                • Mar 2018
                                • 880

                                #210
                                Re: PS4 PRO question

                                Originally posted by ninertravel
                                Think I will wait till my original PS4 dies. still got a PS2 PS3 (the first ones died of those) and PSX. usually they die after a 4 year cycle I remember MLB the show 12 killed my first PS3 fat LOL

                                but to get a pro is only useful if I buy another TV because my TV is 7 years old and not 4k, so I really don't want spend over $2000 just for a small upgrade
                                The Pro isn't useless if your TV isn't 4k, I'm guessing that your display is at least 1080p, right?

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