Huge Flaw in RTTS

[doomnova]

Re: Huge Flaw in RTTS

I see people asking this, but can't find an answer. Is there a point in your career where you combine the archetype you started with, with another one.

Does anybody know if this true?

Honestly not a clue we barely know anything about their "new" system because there is little to no documentation beyond what they have shown us. That said I would doubt it. Since the whole system looks rushed. The issues with pitching alone shows this.

[BearsNVA]

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Honestly not a clue we barely know anything about their "new" system because there is little to no documentation beyond what they have shown us. That said I would doubt it. Since the whole system looks rushed. The issues with pitching alone shows this.

I'm trying to figure out how to beat the system. For instance I want to be a defensive canon, but get moved to first base. I'm now going to try starting as a power corner and see if they move me to RF where I can actually be what I want. I hate I have to do this, but I'm trying to get out of the hole they dug me.

[doomnova]

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I'm trying to figure out how to beat the system. For instance I want to be a defensive canon, but get moved to first base. I'm now going to try starting as a power corner and see if they move me to RF where I can actually be what I want. I hate I have to do this, but I'm trying to get out of the hole they dug me.

Yea join the club. I have the stats on my starter in his 3rd season to be a solid #3/#2 and using my usual wind up so timing is not my issue but with only 1 off speed pitch (and honestly it is not well developed due to RNjesus) the batters just sit on it when I am in X-2 counts and well enough said. I would love to find the person who decided this was ready for launch and put his head though a TV right now.

I think this game will be collecting dust for the next X months till they(read if) get around to fixing these issues. Kinda like change ups last year slowing down as you invested points into them.....

[shark547]

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How is this unrealistic? Please educate me, I am new to RTTS and I have never played real world baseball at an elite level. But one would think that if this was real, I know it's a stretch, that our pitching coaches who have a vested interest in our development would want us to become proficient in what is currently in our tool boxes before we go adding new stuff.

It sounds like the people bringing up the problems around being cast into the DH role have a grip and perhaps there is a problem in the game around power hitters. Is this only occurring on AL organizations? But there two solutions for pitchers.

1) Show some patience, play the games, put in your time and the training opportunity should present itself when our virtual pitching coaches think we are ready.

2) Create a pitcher in MLB 17 that has everything you want and port him over to 18.

I thought RTTS was about the journey not the end destination. I am looking forward to long hard grind through the minor leagues. In my brief time playing MLB 17 RTTS, I found I was progressing too easily. I made it to AAA in less than 10 games if you ignore the 5 games they asked me to be a closer.

So I just wanted you folks to know that apparently there is a way to add new pitch types because I was concerned when it was brought up here and I was prepared to create a pitcher with 4 pitch types in MLB 17. But now that I know I should be presented with the opportunity sometime down the road. I am not worried. I am in no rush to build a MLB Hall of Fame pitcher before next week.

Did you quote the wrong person???? What is the confusion?

[doomnova]

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Did you quote the wrong person???? What is the confusion?

I think it is about my complaint that in 3 years of simmed games with a 76 rated player I have not had the option to train 1 new pitch for my SP and is now getting his face pushed in because he has not pitch selection at the majors. coupled with the fact your primary pitch is the only pitch that is gaining stats when used on any contact play even if the pitch was never used in the at bat. And the poster is thinking this is a feature not something broken as hell.

edit:
I found the additional pitches.......the most subtle way they could add them. It is in the bull pen training session but they come from your teammates. So your kinda locked into what your team has. I am going to load an old save and see if they can be added sooner in the minors.....but it looks like if you want some of the rarer pitches you need to start with them or import them......the indication tab that there is more trainings to be offered is almost as gray as the background....cute SDS really cute...

[My993C2]

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Honestly not a clue we barely know anything about their "new" system because there is little to no documentation beyond what they have shown us. That said I would doubt it. Since the whole system looks rushed. The issues with pitching alone shows this.

I do agree that we lack information from SDS. So far all that we have from them is the one DEV Stream (all the other videos like the GameStop one are useless) and we have our limited experiences with the game. It would be good if SDS gave us an official training guide or a better video than the DEV stream.

[extremeskins04]

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Ok so I made a Starting Pitcher (plain filthy archetype) again this time and I was drafted by the Pirates. Ok fine, so I'm in about 6 games now and my ERA is 1.21 and i have almost 60 strikeouts averaging close to 10 per game.

Then without ANY warning at all, i got moved from SP to Long Relief Pitcher....WTF!

So now I'm long relief and was replaced by Shane Baz who's ERA is 6.13 but has a slightly higher OVR. He also has only 26 strikeouts over 7 games now.

Ummm, SDS...WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

This RTTS thing has a ton of ground breaking issues.

Your biggest flaw in this mode right now is your performance and how you're looked at is SOLELY based on your OVERALL and NOT stats and how well you do.

This has been a problem with this game for years now.

I'm really irritated.

[da_centa_fielda]

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WOW! I'm shocked and disappointed at what I'm reading. RTTS is my favorite mode. I spend over 90% of my time playing it at least. Seems like all they did is make the mode worse.

I was going to wait for the game to go on sale. But now I think I'll just wait until patches fix things if I don't give up on this year's game all together.

[JayCutlersCig]

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Just finished my first season at a solid 68 OVR, made it to 70 by mid April. I’m batting .338, 4 HRs, and 24 RBIs on the Dynamic difficulty, Mr. Reliable Archetype as a Catcher. I’m surprised I haven’t been called up, either; I batted .329 with 10 HRs, 56 RBIs.

Honestly, I’m a mixed bag about the attribute caps. You can increase them over time, but you’re limited to the drills and can increase the select ones over time.

In all, though, I LOVE the game. It feels like the closest representation to its’ sport, and coming from Madden, this game is ten steps up.


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[doomnova]

Re: Huge Flaw in RTTS

Ok so I made a Starting Pitcher (plain filthy archetype) again this time and I was drafted by the Pirates. Ok fine, so I'm in about 6 games now and my ERA is 1.21 and i have almost 60 strikeouts averaging close to 10 per game.

Then without ANY warning at all, i got moved from SP to Long Relief Pitcher....WTF!

So now I'm long relief and was replaced by Shane Baz who's ERA is 6.13 but has a slightly higher OVR. He also has only 26 strikeouts over 7 games now.

Ummm, SDS...WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

This RTTS thing has a ton of ground breaking issues.

Your biggest flaw in this mode right now is your performance and how you're looked at is SOLELY based on your OVERALL and NOT stats and how well you do.

This has been a problem with this game for years now.

I'm really irritated.

They did this in 17 as well. It tends to last about 10-14 games and your back as a starter.

Update on the pitch selection. You can add additional pitches once you hit the majors and they are selected during your training days from other pitchers on your staff. I really really have reservations for this as the amount of time you will need to develop those pitches will result in you have a junk pitch or two for almost a year each with how RNG training currently is. So in effect your a 3 pitch starter for at least the first year of your majors assuming your other pitches are near their caps. Lets just say I made a pitcher in 17 and moved him over. At least I will have time to work on the pitches in the minors.

[aarondmsu]

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It looks to me like creating a player in 17 and importing him to 18 is the only viable way of playing RTTS this year, but even that, for me, probably isn't going to work. I liked having control over my own progression. I could get my player's attributes to just the right place that I like, a spot where he isn't too good and he isn't too bad either. For me, there us such a thing as too good. I don't have fun if I my guy can hit .400 and hit 60 homers without me even thinking about it. There's no sense of accomplishment in that. At the same time, I don't like it when I can't break .275 no matter how hard I concentrate, either. There's a sweet spot. The manual training points application allowed me to find that sweet spot (without having to fuss with the sliders too much), but now, I'm at the mercy of the game's auto application and caps.

[King Gro23]

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They did this in 17 as well. It tends to last about 10-14 games and your back as a starter.

Update on the pitch selection. You can add additional pitches once you hit the majors and they are selected during your training days from other pitchers on your staff. I really really have reservations for this as the amount of time you will need to develop those pitches will result in you have a junk pitch or two for almost a year each with how RNG training currently is. So in effect your a 3 pitch starter for at least the first year of your majors assuming your other pitches are near their caps. Lets just say I made a pitcher in 17 and moved him over. At least I will have time to work on the pitches in the minors.

EDIT: THIS IS NOT DIRECTED TO THE USER I QUOTED. MORE SO A PSA. ENJOY THE WORK OF ART FROM SDS
I am going to try to change the direction of minds. It seems that we all have been fed instant gratification far too long.

FLAW FAQS:
STARTING PITCHER: rumor has it you only have 3 pitch repertoire until majors where "Training sessions" with teammates will give you ability to unlock one of their pitch types.
---MY TAKE: I think its a cool idea and realistic. Your no,longer looked at as the prize of the draft. How many journeyman come into minors with 4-5 fully fleshed pitches let alone at mlb level. Most minor guys only,have 3 pitches good enough to get outs first few years in bigs anyways UNLESS YOU'RE THE PRIZE OF THE DRAFT CLASS. its definitely different but its realistic and a fun new way to approach RTTS and career development. We have been spoiled with having mike trout/Kershaw caliber players by the fall of our 1st season.


STARTING PITCHER TURNED TO RELIEVER: The gross gripes about this I get it i get it, I get it. You want to be the next Greg maddux or The BUM , maybe Randy Johnson. In reality on the way to show you very well could be asked to switch roles in the,bullpen. ALA AROLDIS CHAPMAN STARTER, RELIEVER CLOSER.. The odds of these changes being permanent over a career I've never heard or seen.

Accept the role change dominate and by the time you actually reach that 1.000 -2.000 mlb service time I'm sure you'll be the exact player you want to be.

This year its going to take time and willingness to be the arch star you want to be.

Rome was not built in a day.

POSITION PLAYERS: how many guys in real life come in as this position and move too many others through out there career.
Who ever thought Chase utley and Ryan Braun would become first basemen?

Or the catcher swihart ?
Nothing is permanent.

So much anger and whining and guys really have only played about as much as Mejia (indians catcher) in the bigs but want to scream and shout why am I not the every day Gary Sanchez.

Also the WORK AROUND:

DOWNLOAD OSFM OFFSEASON UPDATE 9
MAKE ROAD TTS ON 17.. YOU CAN PORT IT WITHOUT PLAYING A GAME ..WITH A FREE YEAR OF DEVELOPMENT (17 SEASON) OR PLAYER LOCK ANF BE GOD OF ALL DECISION IN FRANCHISE MODE.




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[aarondmsu]

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EDIT: THIS IS NOT DIRECTED TO THE USER I QUOTED. MORE SO A PSA. ENJOY THE WORK OF ART FROM SDS
I am going to try to change the direction of minds. It seems that we all have been fed instant gratification far too long.

FLAW FAQS:
STARTING PITCHER: rumor has it you only have 3 pitch repertoire until majors where "Training sessions" with teammates will give you ability to unlock one of their pitch types.
---MY TAKE: I think its a cool idea and realistic. Your no,longer looked at as the prize of the draft. How many journeyman come into minors with 4-5 fully fleshed pitches let alone at mlb level. Most minor guys only,have 3 pitches good enough to get outs first few years in bigs anyways UNLESS YOU'RE THE PRIZE OF THE DRAFT CLASS. its definitely different but its realistic and a fun new way to approach RTTS and career development. We have been spoiled with having mike trout/Kershaw caliber players by the fall of our 1st season.


STARTING PITCHER TURNED TO RELIEVER: The gross gripes about this I get it i get it, I get it. You want to be the next Greg maddux or The BUM , maybe Randy Johnson. In reality on the way to show you very well could be asked to switch roles in the,bullpen. ALA AROLDIS CHAPMAN STARTER, RELIEVER CLOSER.. The odds of these changes being permanent over a career I've never heard or seen.

Accept the role change dominate and by the time you actually reach that 1.000 -2.000 mlb service time I'm sure you'll be the exact player you want to be.

This year its going to take time and willingness to be the arch star you want to be.

Rome was not built in a day.

POSITION PLAYERS: how many guys in real life come in as this position and move too many others through out there career.
Who ever thought Chase utley and Ryan Braun would become first basemen?

Or the catcher swihart ?
Nothing is permanent.

So much anger and whining and guys really have only played about as much as Mejia (indians catcher) in the bigs but want to scream and shout why am I not the every day Gary Sanchez.

Also the WORK AROUND:

DOWNLOAD OSFM OFFSEASON UPDATE 9
MAKE ROAD TTS ON 17.. YOU CAN PORT IT WITHOUT PLAYING A GAME ..WITH A FREE YEAR OF DEVELOPMENT (17 SEASON) OR PLAYER LOCK ANF BE GOD OF ALL DECISION IN FRANCHISE MODE.




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Just so I'm clear, what you posted there came directly from SDS?

[extremeskins04]

Re: Huge Flaw in RTTS

EDIT: THIS IS NOT DIRECTED TO THE USER I QUOTED. MORE SO A PSA. ENJOY THE WORK OF ART FROM SDS
I am going to try to change the direction of minds. It seems that we all have been fed instant gratification far too long.

FLAW FAQS:
STARTING PITCHER: rumor has it you only have 3 pitch repertoire until majors where "Training sessions" with teammates will give you ability to unlock one of their pitch types.
---MY TAKE: I think its a cool idea and realistic. Your no,longer looked at as the prize of the draft. How many journeyman come into minors with 4-5 fully fleshed pitches let alone at mlb level. Most minor guys only,have 3 pitches good enough to get outs first few years in bigs anyways UNLESS YOU'RE THE PRIZE OF THE DRAFT CLASS. its definitely different but its realistic and a fun new way to approach RTTS and career development. We have been spoiled with having mike trout/Kershaw caliber players by the fall of our 1st season.


STARTING PITCHER TURNED TO RELIEVER: The gross gripes about this I get it i get it, I get it. You want to be the next Greg maddux or The BUM , maybe Randy Johnson. In reality on the way to show you very well could be asked to switch roles in the,bullpen. ALA AROLDIS CHAPMAN STARTER, RELIEVER CLOSER.. The odds of these changes being permanent over a career I've never heard or seen.

Accept the role change dominate and by the time you actually reach that 1.000 -2.000 mlb service time I'm sure you'll be the exact player you want to be.

This year its going to take time and willingness to be the arch star you want to be.

Rome was not built in a day.

POSITION PLAYERS: how many guys in real life come in as this position and move too many others through out there career.
Who ever thought Chase utley and Ryan Braun would become first basemen?

Or the catcher swihart ?
Nothing is permanent.

So much anger and whining and guys really have only played about as much as Mejia (indians catcher) in the bigs but want to scream and shout why am I not the every day Gary Sanchez.

Also the WORK AROUND:

DOWNLOAD OSFM OFFSEASON UPDATE 9
MAKE ROAD TTS ON 17.. YOU CAN PORT IT WITHOUT PLAYING A GAME ..WITH A FREE YEAR OF DEVELOPMENT (17 SEASON) OR PLAYER LOCK ANF BE GOD OF ALL DECISION IN FRANCHISE MODE.




Sent from my VS987 using Operation Sports mobile app

Nice idea King but it does not work in RTTS, especially THIS YEAR. When you change positions if you do not change your archetype too it hinders your progression. When we pick our Archetypes, we want those archetypes, not for the game to say "hey we want you to change now".

And it's not team based. This literally is scripted into every team you play for. I re-did RTTS like 10 times and had 10 different teams and I was asked to change every single time.

This also doesn't even remotely help the fact that this mode and the game itself evaluates you on your OVR, not stats and your performance which is the way it should be. When I was a 3rd baseman, my first year stats through over 300 plate appearances on All-Star difficulty were off the charts.

But I was not called up for a LONG time, and when I was, it was straight to MLB instead of AAA. It was on the Orioles. Machado was playing SS and there was another 3rd baseman who also could play SS was sitting on the bench for Machado. But my OVR was like 62. It didn't make sense. No one was injured.

Also, I won't even get into stat tracking for the minors which doesn't exist. That's another thread.

[aarondmsu]

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And how does a player playing the game the way he wants to play it make him "spoiled"? He spent his own hard earned money on the game. What if he wants to be the next Trout or Kershaw? He should have the choice to give it a go. Instead, we are being told 'you have to live the life of a grinder from the start. If you work hard enough, with a little luck, you could become Johnny Damon. But that's your only choice. Don't like It? Play franchise mode.'