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  • forme95
    MVP
    • Nov 2013
    • 3118

    #16
    Re: Managing bullpen and mound visits for the AI...??

    I don't believe it is tied to pitch counts. Its more tied to confidence. I will NEVER do a mound visit if his confidence is over 50%. I will do one on occasion if my pitchers confidence falls under that to try and get him out of the inning. I did try it once with Kluber who was having a bad inning and his confidences was right around 50 and after the visit, it dropped more. Some pitchers (and I believe this is true of Kluber) just don't want to be pepped up lol

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    • tessl
      All Star
      • Apr 2007
      • 5685

      #17
      Re: Managing bullpen and mound visits for the AI...??

      Originally posted by My993C2
      I don't think it is tied to the number of pitches. I successfully used a mound visit the other day in a MoM game during the 1st inning when the Nationals were beating up on my Rockies starter. But you need to be careful when and who you use them on. If you come out too early, it will make the pitchers confidence even worse. I usually wait until they have given up several hits or runs where their confidence is at 50% or less. But I have also noticed that a number of the veterans in my bullpen never react positively to mound visits. I am sure it's not every veteran in the game. I just know that there are a handful of the veterans on my team that mound visits have never worked on, so I just leave them be or pull them from the game.
      That's interesting. Maybe it is a combination of pitches/stamina and confidence level. I like the current way the devs have it programmed although they should have the cpu do mound visits also because I almost feel as though I'm gaining an unfair advantage - and if the cpu did mound visits we could perhaps figure out what the code is behind when to do one.

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      • forme95
        MVP
        • Nov 2013
        • 3118

        #18
        Re: Managing bullpen and mound visits for the AI...??

        I have to add though, I have seen the cut scene where the pitching coach comes out and talks to the pitcher for the cpu. Never paid attention if the cpu pitcher gained confidence or anything from it.

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        • My993C2
          MVP
          • Sep 2012
          • 1588

          #19
          Re: Managing bullpen and mound visits for the AI...??

          Originally posted by tessl
          That's interesting. Maybe it is a combination of pitches/stamina and confidence level. I like the current way the devs have it programmed although they should have the cpu do mound visits also because I almost feel as though I'm gaining an unfair advantage - and if the cpu did mound visits we could perhaps figure out what the code is behind when to do one.
          Yes we do have an advantage over our CPU opponents, at least in MoM game play when it comes to mound visits. The CPU does send their pitching coach out there, but I have never seen it have an affect the pitcher's confidence. Advantage human.

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          • KBLover
            Hall Of Fame
            • Aug 2009
            • 12172

            #20
            Re: Managing bullpen and mound visits for the AI...??

            Originally posted by forme95
            I don't believe it is tied to pitch counts. Its more tied to confidence. I will NEVER do a mound visit if his confidence is over 50%.
            Interesting, I usually tie it to the game situation and if he's starting to look like he's losing it completely, even with decent confidence.

            Last game I played, my ace had 75% or so confidence but had given up a couple ringing hits (it was at like 90% as he was cruising along after giving up a couple early unearned runs) to put runners in scoring position. I did a visit and his confidence shot up to almost full.

            He ended up getting a pop up and a strike out to get out of the inning unscathed.
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            • tessl
              All Star
              • Apr 2007
              • 5685

              #21
              Re: Managing bullpen and mound visits for the AI...??

              Originally posted by My993C2
              Yes we do have an advantage over our CPU opponents, at least in MoM game play when it comes to mound visits. The CPU does send their pitching coach out there, but I have never seen it have an affect the pitcher's confidence. Advantage human.
              I use fast play and don't see the between pitch animations so maybe that's why I never see cpu mound visits. Since the devs know exactly how it is programmed it would be interesting to track the mound visits and try to determine the logic but since it takes too long to play a game with anything other than fast play I'll leave it to someone else to do the research.

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              • Caulfield
                Hall Of Fame
                • Apr 2011
                • 10986

                #22
                Re: Managing bullpen and mound visits for the AI...??

                Originally posted by My993C2
                Yes we do have an advantage over our CPU opponents, at least in MoM game play when it comes to mound visits. The CPU does send their pitching coach out there, but I have never seen it have an affect the pitcher's confidence. Advantage human.
                Guess that's to even up the "Don't call it a comeback " code
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                • Smallville102001
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                  • Mar 2015
                  • 6542

                  #23
                  Re: Managing bullpen and mound visits for the AI...??

                  Originally posted by tessl
                  I use fast play and don't see the between pitch animations so maybe that's why I never see cpu mound visits. Since the devs know exactly how it is programmed it would be interesting to track the mound visits and try to determine the logic but since it takes too long to play a game with anything other than fast play I'll leave it to someone else to do the research.
                  I dont use fast play ever and i have not seen one mound visits by the CPU this year.

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                  • DarthRambo
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 6630

                    #24
                    Re: Managing bullpen and mound visits for the AI...??

                    Originally posted by forme95
                    I have to add though, I have seen the cut scene where the pitching coach comes out and talks to the pitcher for the cpu. Never paid attention if the cpu pitcher gained confidence or anything from it.

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                    Originally posted by Smallville102001
                    I dont use fast play ever and i have not seen one mound visits by the CPU this year.
                    I have seen mound visits by the cpu but they are rare. So rare in fact I don't have any idea what the logic is or when it happened.

                    It's very annoying how poorly the AI is in this department as well as the whole deal of managing the bullpen. And doesn't appear there is any way to fix it so I'll continue switching controller over to do all of it myself for them.

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                    • ninertravel
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2015
                      • 4833

                      #25
                      Re: Managing bullpen and mound visits for the AI...??

                      Yes I switch the controller too it’s the only fix I pretty much manage the dumb ai bp who are brain dead and when they bring in their closer in the 9th who has pitched for 5 straight days and gassed I quickly hook him too otherwise I know o have a easy win

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                      • countryboy
                        Growing pains
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 52789

                        #26
                        Re: Managing bullpen and mound visits for the AI...??

                        Originally posted by Smallville102001
                        I dont use fast play ever and i have not seen one mound visits by the CPU this year.


                        I don’t use fast play and I’ve seen several.

                        Maybe it’s because I have a carryover save, I’m not sure, but I don’t have any issues with AI bullpen management. I’ve seen lefties brought in to face lefties and I haven’t seen a reliever left out beyond reasonable expectations.


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                        • Smallville102001
                          All Star
                          • Mar 2015
                          • 6542

                          #27
                          Re: Managing bullpen and mound visits for the AI...??

                          Originally posted by countryboy
                          I don’t use fast play and I’ve seen several.

                          Maybe it’s because I have a carryover save, I’m not sure, but I don’t have any issues with AI bullpen management. I’ve seen lefties brought in to face lefties and I haven’t seen a reliever left out beyond reasonable expectations.


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                          That really is hard to believe it is like in unbelievably bad. About mound visits i saw them in the pace but not yet this year i have only played about 15 games though so a lot less then a lot of people.

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                          • countryboy
                            Growing pains
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 52789

                            #28
                            Re: Managing bullpen and mound visits for the AI...??

                            Originally posted by Smallville102001
                            That really is hard to believe it is like in unbelievably bad. About mound visits i saw them in the pace but not yet this year i have only played about 15 games though so a lot less then a lot of people.
                            Believe what you want to believe, just sharing my experience.
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                            • Caulfield
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 10986

                              #29
                              Re: Managing bullpen and mound visits for the AI...??

                              Originally posted by Smallville102001
                              That really is hard to believe it is like in unbelievably bad. About mound visits i saw them in the pace but not yet this year i have only played about 15 games though so a lot less then a lot of people.
                              The cpu definitely makes mound visits in broadcast mode. Maybe not as many as I would prefer but maybe if I hit better
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                              • bronxbombers21325
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2012
                                • 3058

                                #30
                                Re: Managing bullpen and mound visits for the AI...??

                                I don't do this, but the AI bullpen management in this years game is the worst I have seen in the series. I'm 8 games into my franchise, and I have yet to see a mound visit from the AI. Not to mention, in a game against the Blue Jays in the first series of the season, they brought their long reliever in, in inning 5, which was strange considering I was only up 2-1, and only had 6 or 7 hits. At the beginning of the 5th, score was 2-1, I scored 3 off of him that inning, no mound visit, nothing. I figured in the 6th, he'd be gone, but nope, there he was again, scored 2 more off of him, and the bases were loaded when the inning ended on a double play. On to the 7th, yep, he's back out for another one, this inning I scored 4 off of him. The 8th, big surprise, he's out for one more, I only managed one off of him for this inning however. For the 9th they finally decided to bring someone else in. But through all of this, they left him in a game that would have been very winnable when he entered, and did not do one single mound visit.

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