Auto or Manual Fielding

[51shergie]

Re: Auto or Manual Fielding

Question for auto-fielding guys:

(In my constructive, not complaining but may exaggerate to prove my point voice)

Dont you think its a shame that you have had to resort to auto-fielding? My first baseball game was bases-loaded on Nintendo with Bases Loaded II being the game that made me fall in love with the joy of fielding. So after that there was 2K and many other baseball games whether it be the Hardball Series or World Series Baseball on Sega. Then there was MVP and then The Show followed slightly after with its first installment which I think it was like David Wright or Ortiz or someone icant remember on the cover.

The introduction of the RTTS was awesome and received well and the show took off after this and apparently scared off anyone else to make a sim-style baseball game (even though its not even produced on xbox). I could be wrong about this and if I am forgive me, but I believe fielding has been broken since then. If not the first season then surely couple seasons after, the idea of diving over a baseball was introduced.

I am guessing at some point over the years many of you adapted and avoided frustration by going to auto fielding. The only problem I have with that, is that in today’s video game market or forum world or whatever you want to call it, we really do have power (albeit limited) to influence changes if enough people are upset or in agreement.

Dont you think workable, logical, playable, and enjoyable fielding controls are worth fighting for?

Fielding was never supposed to be a bunch of animations and maneuvering awkwardly to get the ball, you run dive or jump in front of the ball and gun it and get the guy out! Everytime gun it, whats so bad about that? Ever watch Ken Camminitti play 3B? He would get a grounder then wait...wait...wait....zooom! Gun it at 90 something mph and get the guy by a couple of steps cuz he wanted toshow off his gun.

I mean if auto-fielding is what its come to why not just go to cutscenes like the old PS1 days? If ur not gonna control them and just want it to look real, put real footage of actual baseball games in there.

I realize I must not be the majority, but to me I might as will put it on auto hitting or auto pitching if i am gonna do auto fielding.

Unite!!

[Caulfield]

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I can't speak for everybody but I would still want to use autofielding no matter how great, or easier, the Show made manual fielding. When I'm pitching, I want that same feeling IRL pitchers get when, at some point, they know they are going to have to trust their teammates to have their back. Also, if I were to do the fielding, I would override the fielders ratings with my prowess (or lack thereof) at the sticks. Pretty much the same reason I eschew analog pitching in favour of meter. And that's one of the great things about the Show, you have so many options to find the style that gives you the most entertainment and enjoyment.

[51shergie]

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I respect your opinion....but thats basically RTTS with a pitcher...

So you dont want any input from you to make a difference? You just want to see the players ratings play out? Why not just watch real baseball?

It kills me that there are so many that agree with you and are outspoken about it. To yall everything is fine, no problems with fielding...

Like i said, to me its almost the equivalent of, lets say, if hitting was messed up and somehow it was impossible to get doubles or triples in this game. Only HRs and singles. Its like that to me, and if that were really happening i know people would speak up enough to make them fix it.

Do they allow autofielding in online play and/or DD? I only play offline franchise and rtts

[wisdom less13]

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I use auto to just make it easier for me. Just a preference when I play the AI. I'm capable of playing manual fielding, I just cannot do meters while fielding. It's too much for me. I love the concept of button accuracy, but I just suck at it. So, I go meter off. Fielding online is different because I use sliders. The manual fielding this year is mad smooth. I just started to suck at it, and went to auto. I guess I just suck at fielding? Hahaha Plus, if I'm having some wine, in a party with like six people online, it helps with the lack of focus...

[Caulfield]

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I respect your opinion....but thats basically RTTS with a pitcher...

1 So you dont want any input from you to make a difference? You just want to see the players ratings play out? Why not just watch real baseball?

2 It kills me that there are so many that agree with you and are outspoken about it. To yall everything is fine, no problems with fielding...

3 Do they allow autofielding in online play and/or DD? I only play offline franchise and rtts

1 I watch plenty of real baseball, probably too much, from major league to high school. But I also enjoy video game baseball, which is a vastly different experience from watching it.
I get plenty of enjoyment out of hitting and pitching, and like I said earlier, I am more immersed in the pitching aspect when I have to trust my teammates behind me.
Besides , no team in there right mind would let me fill out the lineup card, hire and fire coaches managers and scouts, make trades, draft players, dole out contracts to the players I want. No sir, you just can't compare video game baseball to watching it IRL. Like a great man once said, "It's like comparing apples to pencils".

2 I have no idea if everything is fine with manual fielding, because I don't use it.

3 I only play offline so I dunno about DD and online.

[51shergie]

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I hear you...but that’s exactly my point: there is no reason fielding has to be any more difficult than hitting or pitching. You should be able to play all facets of the game without resorting to eliminating something like that.

You should be able to drink wine and casually Hit, field, and pitch....

Get rid of the fielding animations! When manually fielding, A players attributes will only affect their running speed, ability to make diving plays, and throw accuracy when throwing. The longer you hold the button to throw to the base the harder you throw the ball with obvious repercussions of holding it too long.

Stop with the animation vacuum in which I have to properly go to the spot that is going to trigger one of the games animations while dissed regarding whether or not the bowl is right in front of your face. No more balls going through your player or right beside your player because you failed to trigger an animation. This is why people don’t play, because one mistake in an otherwise realistic and well played game, Can’t decide the entire outcome. Hence people setting this to auto fielding. Saying that you can do it but just choose not to because the CPU will do it better I don’t think is being honest with yourself.

You might be able to get a better result by letting the CPU bat for you as well, but I don’t think people do that. I get 100% what you’re saying, and it proves my point that it’s not supposed to be that difficult.

https://youtu.be/eu2mLrQTCi8

^^^^^ Extremely rewarding game fielding with zero animations and A learning curve sure but not something a person could not figure out.

[JoshC1977]

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So you dont want any input from you to make a difference? You just want to see the players ratings play out? Why not just watch real baseball?

It kills me that there are so many that agree with you and are outspoken about it. To yall everything is fine, no problems with fielding...

I use auto-fielding as my primary choice (and have for years) because of the visual aesthetics when playing games and because it allows player ratings to be the most impactful.

That said, with all of the improvements made to fielding this year, this is the first time since playing The Show where I would actually consider using manual fielding. Fielding SHOULD be hard and it is hard (finally). Past years, it was too easy, too cheesy...just like bunting was. Now both are fixed.

Yes...I fully acknowledge that there ARE some residual animation issues with fielding but to me those are irrelevant to the thread topic because they impact a player regardless of the fielding mode being used.

[kaptainkarl76]

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Manual..although it's not really manual..there is some cpu control

[montgom24]

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I've just started doing auto fielding. Thanks to this thread, before this I didn't know it was an option. I make way to many errors in a game for stupid things and I played my first game last night with auto and truly enjoyed it. I use buttons for fielding as well. I feel like it was a whole new game. Low scoring because there wasn't as many errors. Just felt more real. Let the players use their attributes to make the rundown. I'll do the rest from there.

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[LowerWolf]

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Confession: I used to wonder how anyone could play with auto fielding. Then I tried it a few years ago.

Auto fielding, manual throwing with no meter for me now.

[Caulfield]

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The one thing I wish SDS would add is the option to have auto infield and manual outfield (or vice versa). I also wouldn't mind an option to field pop flys in the infield as well as pop fouls, especially catcher.

[shark547]

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Manual fielding in this game is a disaster. This game is more worried with looks than actually how the game controls and plays in the field. I lose games because of the ridiculous animations and just flat out crazy things my fielders do.

In order for manual fielding to be good I have to have FULL control of the players actions. Not partial control. If they miss the ball or throw it away on ratings fine.

How many times do I have to watch a player wind up and take longer to throw the ball than if they had just thrown the ball to start with. I literally just last night had an OF crow hop on a ball in shallow foul territory for a guy to be safe at 2nd base. He should have been out by a mile.

Computer turns 3-6-1 DP's and I can barely turn routine ones. You are at a competitive disadvantage. Getting rid of preloaded throws is part of the problem.

It doesn't help at all that the computer takes complete and total advantage of these things when you can't get your runners to do anything once they have started the slow down animation.

[countryboy]

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Manual fielding in this game is a disaster. This game is more worried with looks than actually how the game controls and plays in the field. I lose games because of the ridiculous animations and just flat out crazy things my fielders do.

In order for manual fielding to be good I have to have FULL control of the players actions. Not partial control. If they miss the ball or throw it away on ratings fine.

How many times do I have to watch a player wind up and take longer to throw the ball than if they had just thrown the ball to start with. I literally just last night had an OF crow hop on a ball in shallow foul territory for a guy to be safe at 2nd base. He should have been out by a mile.

Computer turns 3-6-1 DP's and I can barely turn routine ones. You are at a competitive disadvantage. Getting rid of preloaded throws is part of the problem.

It doesn't help at all that the computer takes complete and total advantage of these things when you can't get your runners to do anything once they have started the slow down animation.

Preloaded throws are still in the game

[shark547]

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Preloaded throws are still in the game

I should have been more specific. I am having a hard time with them on double plays.