Patch 1.09 is Live

[Frostball]

Re: Patch 1.09 is Live

Have had the same problem. Constantly prompted for live roster update now. Also noticed a lot of wild pitches now by the CPU. Grant it they don't ever bounce far enough for you to move to another base, not for me anyway.



Just time to admit it, this patched messed some things up for offline folks. A lot of wild pitches now. A lot of double plays now. Very few home runs are hit now. Me and the CPU use to hit quite a few home runs prior to this patch every game. Now we down to 1 or 2 a game. Games are very low scoring for me now. Too many balls are hit directly at defenders. Get very few doubles now. Get way too many line drive fly outs where the defender don't have to move because the ball comes directly to them.



Not seeing the variety of hits anymore. Hits are the following now:



1. Line drive fly outs to the CF.

2. Ground ball to 2nd.

3. Ground ball to short stop.

4. Line drive to the pitcher and the pitcher catches everything now.

5. Pop ups. Seeing way too many pop ups.



I would say 98% of on base hits now are singles that barely land beyond the jumping 1st baseman or jumping Short Stop. Everything is just different now. I use to see hits go all over the field. Now ? NOPE. The ball don't even bounce and roll as far on the ground anymore. Use to be the ball would bounce and roll in a variety of different directions. Now, it is always right towards to a defender or roll 3 feet and just STOP. The amount of line drives infielders snag now during a game is INSANE.

That's how my game was playing before the patch


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[NolanRyansSnowmonkey]

Re: Patch 1.09 is Live

Well it reset the stats for me....bizzare thing. Quick Managed an inning....jumped back into the game.....stats in the box score reset. Maybe one time thing? I don’t know.

FYI apparently not a one-time thing, there is a new thread where the user is describing the exact same thing I believe, after making one small adjustment in Quick Manage. Lost everything in the box scores.... Seems like a legit bug. I'm assuming this is only post-1.09 since now it's popped up twice recently...

[Robzinsk3]

I see the difference in fielding after patch but still see instances of too many glove taps. I don't get it why they don't   take from previous year and go from there, why is fielding always crap til a patch. Outfield is a joke trying to get the ball back in(stay away from walls), they suck you in from 20 feet away while the runner takes 2 bases and scores, GREAT! Hitting seems as good as ever though, I was fooled but stayed back and timing was on point.

[ericjwm]

Re: Patch 1.09 is Live

Have had the same problem. Constantly prompted for live roster update now. Also noticed a lot of wild pitches now by the CPU. Grant it they don't ever bounce far enough for you to move to another base, not for me anyway.

Just time to admit it, this patched messed some things up for offline folks. A lot of wild pitches now. A lot of double plays now. Very few home runs are hit now. Me and the CPU use to hit quite a few home runs prior to this patch every game. Now we down to 1 or 2 a game. Games are very low scoring for me now. Too many balls are hit directly at defenders. Get very few doubles now. Get way too many line drive fly outs where the defender don't have to move because the ball comes directly to them.

Not seeing the variety of hits anymore. Hits are the following now:

1. Line drive fly outs to the CF.
2. Ground ball to 2nd.
3. Ground ball to short stop.
4. Line drive to the pitcher and the pitcher catches everything now.
5. Pop ups. Seeing way too many pop ups.

I would say 98% of on base hits now are singles that barely land beyond the jumping 1st baseman or jumping Short Stop. Everything is just different now. I use to see hits go all over the field. Now ? NOPE. The ball don't even bounce and roll as far on the ground anymore. Use to be the ball would bounce and roll in a variety of different directions. Now, it is always right towards to a defender or roll 3 feet and just STOP. The amount of line drives infielders snag now during a game is INSANE.

Thank you for bringing this up.. was starting to think I was the only one that noticed a major change with 1.09. The power has been toned WAY down!.. I don't know what's been done to the ball physics but something has been ruined. I hope they can get this back with another patch or else I'm going to have to just go back to the original completely un-patched (1.00) game.

I play in franchise so it's not just with "play now".
I also switch back and forth between All Star, HOF and Legend difficulties.. the toned down power is the same in all three settings from what I can tell and I've played over 12 games since patch 1.09 was released.

[countryboy]

Re: Patch 1.09 is Live

Thank you for bringing this up.. was starting to think I was the only one that noticed a major change with 1.09. The power has been toned WAY down!.. I don't know what's been done to the ball physics but something has been ruined. I hope they can get this back with another patch or else I'm going to have to just go back to the original completely un-patched (1.00) game.

I play in franchise so it's not just with "play now".
I also switch back and forth between All Star, HOF and Legend difficulties.. the toned down power is the same in all three settings from what I can tell and I've played over 12 games since patch 1.09 was released.

Power seems the same to me. I've homered in 5 straight games since the patch, including one where the cpu and I combined for 8 homeruns in GABP. (I hit 6 of them)

I see the same variety of hit types now that I did prior to this patch.

[jeffy777]

Re: Patch 1.09 is Live

I went 4 games without a HR immediately after the patch...then the baseball gods smiled down upon me again and I’m back to hitting 2-3 per game.

My buddy just scored 12 runs in 1 inning and 2 guys on his team both homered twice in that game.

I really don’t think they did anything to power with this patch (at least offline, can’t really speak for DD)...same goes for almost all the patches really, aside from some minor adjustments early on that were documented. Power fluctuates in this game similar to the way it does in real baseball. You just have to ride out the droughts and don’t let it go to your head.

[armymule]

Re: Patch 1.09 is Live

Since the patch I've found hits and home runs way down and a huge amount of 4-6-3 double plays. In franchise "other scores" there suddenly are at least one and as many as three 1-0 games on the schedule each day. Averages are beginning to dip. This is in manage mode so human input isn't a factor.

[gman2774]

Re: Patch 1.09 is Live

I went 4 games without a HR immediately after the patch...then the baseball gods smiled down upon me again and I’m back to hitting 2-3 per game.

My buddy just scored 12 runs in 1 inning and 2 guys on his team both homered twice in that game.

I really don’t think they did anything to power with this patch (at least offline, can’t really speak for DD)...same goes for almost all the patches really, aside from some minor adjustments early on that were documented. Power fluctuates in this game similar to the way it does in real baseball. You just have to ride out the droughts and don’t let it go to your head.

I’m with you here. My first two games post 1.09 patch I was shut out once and only scored 1 run on 5 hits in the second game. Was worried things changed since the patch. My third game I scored 7 runs in one inning which included a double, a triple, and two home runs. All games on HOF default. My hitting is back at least for now. Baseball is a funny game. I undoubtedly will encounter more slumps which is representative of the sport. Hell, the Brewers have already been shut out this year as many times as they were all of last year. In their last 10 games, they’ve been raking. The game is fickle. And I love it.


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[crques]

Re: Patch 1.09 is Live

I've played 5 games since the patch and I've noticed a few things different now. First, it seems like a lot of hits go directly to the 2nd baseman now and they are always positioned perfectly to make the play. Second, it feels like the outfielders are back to making plays they weren't making before and being positioned in the right spot on most of my hits. Before the patch I was seeing balls in the gaps between outfielders, or balls going over outfielders heads, or dropping right in front of them. Now it seems like these balls are being caught. Thirdly, there are way more pop up outs than I remember from before. Also, I'm seeing a lot of singles. Not as many extra base hits. The game just feels different than it did before this patch, and that's not a good thing for me.

[Bullit]

Re: Patch 1.09 is Live

Im not seeing any of this. Games is playing better than ever. I don't want to be that guy, but I don't think you all are giving it a chance. 5 games is not a decent sample size in Baseball. Heck I would argue that 10-15 is not a good sample size. How would it be if they based a patch or gameplay on a 5 game sample. "Well alrighty then, The Show 19 is ready we have played 5 games, everything seems golden. Lets go to print"

Im sorry but thats just not the way it works. I trust somebody like Countryboy who I know has played 60+ games over any of these "I've played 5 games and it sucks" crowd. Im just finishing up Spring with a new franchise I started and I am seeing plenty of hit variety, Home Runs (hit 3 last game) and fielding is amazing (actually pulled of a manual diving catch in Center to save the game)

Sure I dont support a lot of their choices. They are obviously going more and more and more to the online crowd. Every patch and choice shows that. We every game, every inning, offline franchise players are a dying breed and pretty much an afterthought in my opinion. But this is a great game and I honestly think its about as good as it is going to get, until somebody else comes along. But I think I am about at the point in my gaming career that I don't need a new game every year and I think I am good with this one for a bit( baring any game breaking patches in the next few months).

Peace

[Armor and Sword]

Re: Patch 1.09 is Live

Im not seeing any of this. Games is playing better than ever. I don't want to be that guy, but I don't think you all are giving it a chance. 5 games is not a decent sample size in Baseball. Heck I would argue that 10-15 is not a good sample size. How would it be if they based a patch or gameplay on a 5 game sample. "Well alrighty then, The Show 19 is ready we have played 5 games, everything seems golden. Lets go to print"

Im sorry but thats just not the way it works. I trust somebody like Countryboy who I know has played 60+ games over any of these "I've played 5 games and it sucks" crowd. Im just finishing up Spring with a new franchise I started and I am seeing plenty of hit variety, Home Runs (hit 3 last game) and fielding is amazing (actually pulled of a manual diving catch in Center to save the game)

Sure I dont support a lot of their choices. They are obviously going more and more and more to the online crowd. Every patch and choice shows that. We every game, every inning, offline franchise players are a dying breed and pretty much an afterthought in my opinion. But this is a great game and I honestly think its about as good as it is going to get, until somebody else comes along. But I think I am about at the point in my gaming career that I don't need a new game every year and I think I am good with this one for a bit( baring any game breaking patches in the next few months).

Peace

Agree 1000% I play tons of games......sample size. And I can easily say the game is as good if not better post patch 1.09 then out of the box and all previous patches before 1.09. Game is a joy to play.

As smooth as ever pitching, fielding, hitting (again I auto field and manual throw, classic pitch and directional hit). I am seeing incredible hit variety. Seeing new hit types, angles, crazy plays etc.

As far as wild pitches? Not out of control at all for me. Once I see/feel a certain pitch is simply not working well I adjust my direction with it and also use other pitches. It's part of the game. If you are going to force a slider or curve ball when it is clear your pitcher simply does not have "it" that day with that pitch...you are asking for trouble.

Case in point. I was pitching with my 5th starter (actually he is spot starting as I have some injuries I am dealing with with my staff) Alex Meyer. He does not have great control, but he has awesome stuff. Right away I knew his slider was simply not working after throwing 2 of them. I stayed away from that pitch and worked his 4 seam, 2 seam and curve ball. No problem. I tried to sprinkle in some sliders later and aimed higher to make sure I would not throw away the pitch.

Making small adjustments is so critical with pitching as well as hitting. This game replicates that really well IMO.

I don't want to sit here and say play better.....but you need to really look at what you are doing and why you keep getting the same issues when others are simply not. I stream most of my games. So you can watch them. There are going to be wild pitches and passed balls sometimes. I do get them here and there....just like in real baseball? I watch games all the time. I see wild pitches every night around the league, and I see passed balls too (cough Gary Sanchez...cough cough).

Part of the game and they have not been in the least bit excessive for me.

Lazy throws? Fixed this year. I gunned down a CPU base runner taking off on a blocked wild pitch...Sanchez gunned him down at 3rd base. Picked up the ball and fired a rope to third.

MLB 17 was horrendous in this department.

MLB 18 has vastly improved catcher animations, and throw urgency big time.

Is it perfect? Nope. And quite frankly it won't be perfect because humans are not perfect.

People want/scream for simulation, yet when it does not go their way....all hell breaks loose.

It's getting old. And All these knee jerk posts based on 3-4 games.....even 10 games....not enough sample size in baseball. This game is meant to played not simmed. If you play 1 and sim 5.....I get it. You don't have time. But you also are totally missing all the nuances this game offers in terms of the rhythm, up's and down's of a marathon known as the the MLB regular season.

For those of us playing every pitch every inning.....we are seeing the full monty of variety, nuance, streaks both cold and hot and the reversion to the mean for most players. Some players will fall below the mean (have a poor season for their ratings) and some will exceed it (have career years).

It's simply fantastic. And this game comes as close to replicating it's sport as any console sports game ever has.

Rant over.

[crques]

Re: Patch 1.09 is Live

Im not seeing any of this. Games is playing better than ever. I don't want to be that guy, but I don't think you all are giving it a chance. 5 games is not a decent sample size in Baseball. Heck I would argue that 10-15 is not a good sample size. How would it be if they based a patch or gameplay on a 5 game sample. "Well alrighty then, The Show 19 is ready we have played 5 games, everything seems golden. Lets go to print"

Im sorry but thats just not the way it works. I trust somebody like Countryboy who I know has played 60+ games over any of these "I've played 5 games and it sucks" crowd. Im just finishing up Spring with a new franchise I started and I am seeing plenty of hit variety, Home Runs (hit 3 last game) and fielding is amazing (actually pulled of a manual diving catch in Center to save the game)

Sure I dont support a lot of their choices. They are obviously going more and more and more to the online crowd. Every patch and choice shows that. We every game, every inning, offline franchise players are a dying breed and pretty much an afterthought in my opinion. But this is a great game and I honestly think its about as good as it is going to get, until somebody else comes along. But I think I am about at the point in my gaming career that I don't need a new game every year and I think I am good with this one for a bit( baring any game breaking patches in the next few months).

Peace

Fair enough. I wish I had more time for more of a sample size, but 5 games is all I currently have to go on. I've just noticed a different feel to the game in all 5 of those games. Maybe after 5 or 10 more I will feel differently. Just saying what I'm seeing and feeling at this time. Still a great game, just liked it better before the last patch. To be fair, I never said "I've played 5 games since the patch and it sucks now." I just stated some of the things I'm seeing or noticing that are different and that its not a good thing for me.

[Armor and Sword]

Re: Patch 1.09 is Live

Fair enough. I wish I had more time for more of a sample size, but 5 games is all I currently have to go on. I've just noticed a different feel to the game in all 5 of those games. Maybe after 5 or 10 more I will feel differently. Just saying what I'm seeing and feeling at this time. Still a great game, just liked it better before the last patch. To be fair, I never said "I've played 5 games since the patch and it sucks now." I just stated some of the things I'm seeing or noticing that are different and that its not a good thing for me.

I am 99% certain the patch has zero to do with it.

It is very very easy to fall into the "post patch" syndrome". This development team has a long history of releasing good stable patches. Not perfect. And they go back and fix hiccups that a previous patch may cause. But in my history of playing The Show I have never come across a patch that has ever made the worse than better in the gameplay department.

I can't even come close to saying that about EA or 2K and their history of wrecking their games with poor patches catering to casual players. Fortunately 2K18 has been a joy this year. Can't say the same for previous versions post patches.

And don't get me started on Madden who 100% cater to online till the Madden bowl is done. Then they revert the game back to a playable state for offline gamers....a miracle they even do that to be frank.

This game has a deep history of patching things properly for offline gamers. And that tradition still rings true.

Post patch 1.09 the game is playing the best it has since release IMO.

[KnightTemplar]

Re: Patch 1.09 is Live

I am 99% certain the patch has zero to do with it.

It is very very easy to fall into the "post patch" syndrome".

Post patch 1.09 the game is playing the best it has since release IMO.

I'm still waiting to see all these problems supposedly caused.

[crques]

Re: Patch 1.09 is Live

I am 99% certain the patch has zero to do with it.

It is very very easy to fall into the "post patch" syndrome". This development team has a long history of releasing good stable patches. Not perfect. And they go back and fix hiccups that a previous patch may cause. But in my history of playing The Show I have never come across a patch that has ever made the worse than better in the gameplay department.

I can't even come close to saying that about EA or 2K and their history of wrecking their games with poor patches catering to casual players. Fortunately 2K18 has been a joy this year. Can't say the same for previous versions post patches.

And don't get me started on Madden who 100% cater to online till the Madden bowl is done. Then they revert the game back to a playable state for offline gamers....a miracle they even do that to be frank.

This game has a deep history of patching things properly for offline gamers. And that tradition still rings true.

Post patch 1.09 the game is playing the best it has since release IMO.

I trust your opinion. I will give it more time and make a more fair assessment at that point. I was just stating that to me it feels different since the last patch. Perhaps other circumstances contributed to the difference. Hopefully it feels better to me with more games played.