Urgency Issues

**Vanilla_Gorilla** · 07-10-2018, 05:33 PM

Re: Urgency Issues

Originally posted by countryboy

Out of curiosity what type of throwing mechanic do you use? Do you have a meter?

Reason I ask is that I wonder if you may have done a softer throw thus allowing him to beat it by a step????

I use Meter and I always go into the middle of green or enough into the green.

**NolanRyansSnowmonkey** · 07-10-2018, 06:04 PM

Re: Urgency Issues

Originally posted by countryboy

Ok. Just thought I'd bounce that idea out there.

Thank you for the response.

For those that are still seeing the jogging outfielders, are you using AUTO fielding?

As i posted in another thread, i got a base hit on a high fly ball last night because the CPU entered into slow jog mode with Springer against me. So i have seen it both ways. I have not seen it (yet) when i use manual fielding though. The only thing ive seen there is the wall suction animation. I have only seen that twice in about 50 games, and they both happened in the same game, about 3 batters apart.

**NolanRyansSnowmonkey** · 07-10-2018, 06:09 PM

Re: Urgency Issues

Originally posted by Vanilla_Gorilla

I use Meter and I always go into the middle of green or enough into the green.

I had too many errors, even getting it perfectly in the green, when using meter. Not sure why. Plus i had guys being safe on close plays that should have been an out 100% of the time. After going to no meter/no feedback (ive played a lot of games like this) all of my players have thrown with enough urgency to get the runner... so far.

**countryboy** · 07-10-2018, 08:14 PM

Re: Urgency Issues

Originally posted by Vanilla_Gorilla

I use Meter and I always go into the middle of green or enough into the green.

It was an idea.

**countryboy** · 07-11-2018, 07:15 AM

Re: Urgency Issues

Originally posted by NolanRyansSnowmonkey

As i posted in another thread, i got a base hit on a high fly ball last night because the CPU entered into slow jog mode with Springer against me. So i have seen it both ways. I have not seen it (yet) when i use manual fielding though. The only thing ive seen there is the wall suction animation. I have only seen that twice in about 50 games, and they both happened in the same game, about 3 batters apart.

Now I am wondering if its an AUTO fielding issue???

Because like you I have not seen it, knocks on wood, using manual fielding.

**NolanRyansSnowmonkey** · 07-11-2018, 08:04 AM

Re: Urgency Issues

Originally posted by countryboy

Now I am wondering if its an AUTO fielding issue???

Because like you I have not seen it, knocks on wood, using manual fielding.

That's what i am wondering too because i would definitely have noticed it. Of course it took 50 games to ever see the wall suction animation, but that kind needs a specific situation and location etc. Seems like people see the jogging problem much more often. Knock on wood also.

**kenp86** · 07-11-2018, 12:42 PM

Re: Urgency Issues

Definitely not isolated to a auto fielding thing. I have manual fielding on when i play, and i notice the soft/lazy throw across the diamond for a batter to beat the throw out.

Also have had outfielders lazily jauny over for a ball to allow Yasmani Grandal to leg a triple out. Happened to me last game actually. Dude has 6 speed rating... 6!! Add in the soft toss to the cut off, its terrible. Add in when the cutoff gets it and soft tosses a rainbow to the catcher for the runner to beat out a throw which, if done correctly, wouldve resulted in the runner being out by 10+ feet. Horrible

**countryboy** · 07-11-2018, 12:44 PM

Re: Urgency Issues

Originally posted by kenp86

Definitely not isolated to a auto fielding thing. I have manual fielding on when i play, and i notice the soft/lazy throw across the diamond for a batter to beat the throw out.

Also have had outfielders lazily jauny over for a ball to allow Yasmani Grandal to leg a triple out. Happened to me last game actually. Dude has 6 speed rating... 6!! Add in the soft toss to the cut off, its terrible. Add in when the cutoff gets it and soft tosses a rainbow to the catcher for the runner to beat out a throw which, if done correctly, wouldve resulted in the runner being out by 10+ feet. Horrible

Well there goes that theory.

**NolanRyansSnowmonkey** · 07-11-2018, 05:28 PM

Re: Urgency Issues

Originally posted by kenp86

Definitely not isolated to a auto fielding thing. I have manual fielding on when i play, and i notice the soft/lazy throw across the diamond for a batter to beat the throw out.

Also have had outfielders lazily jauny over for a ball to allow Yasmani Grandal to leg a triple out. Happened to me last game actually. Dude has 6 speed rating... 6!! Add in the soft toss to the cut off, its terrible. Add in when the cutoff gets it and soft tosses a rainbow to the catcher for the runner to beat out a throw which, if done correctly, wouldve resulted in the runner being out by 10+ feet. Horrible

Well i need more wood to knock on. Even if i saw it once now, it wouldn't bother me too much as long as it kept up the same rate of once every 50 games or so. I could live with it a handful of times throughout the year i think. I sure wish this desk wasn't fake wood.

The lazy throws would have nothing to do with manual/auto fielding as far as i know. I assume that would be due to throwing settings/difficulty. This throwing issue is something else i havent had any problem with so far, for whatever reason, either from infielders or outfielders. Maybe ive just found a sweet spot on sliders, or just been extremely fortunate so far. I really need some real wood at work. I'm headed out to find a tree.

**Vanilla_Gorilla** · 07-12-2018, 05:23 PM

Re: Urgency Issues

Originally posted by NolanRyansSnowmonkey

I had too many errors, even getting it perfectly in the green, when using meter. Not sure why. Plus i had guys being safe on close plays that should have been an out 100% of the time. After going to no meter/no feedback (ive played a lot of games like this) all of my players have thrown with enough urgency to get the runner... so far.

Seems the meter only represents the accuracy to a certain extent because almost every time I'm early on the release of the meter, it's an error.

So essentially, the player has no say in how quickly or how hard the user-controlled player throws the ball. That is only affected by the situation at hand, the distance, and how hard the ball is hit; and the AI logic they have in place, isn't exactly the most reliable in making the correct adjustments.

Just correlate them all into the meter. Place the green area closer to the meter to make it relatively difficult so a Perfectly or Good timed release equals a Well thrown, well timed, accurate throw.

**AUTiger1** · 07-12-2018, 10:12 PM

Re: Urgency Issues

The only issue I have with fielding is a couple of times I've had a ground ball hit that my fielder can get to and instead he just stands there and watches the ball go right past him and there's no way for me to override it. The animation to field the ball never happens and it's just super like WTF?

**AUTiger1** · 07-12-2018, 10:20 PM

Re: Urgency Issues

Originally posted by NolanRyansSnowmonkey

I had too many errors, even getting it perfectly in the green, when using meter. Not sure why. Plus i had guys being safe on close plays that should have been an out 100% of the time. After going to no meter/no feedback (ive played a lot of games like this) all of my players have thrown with enough urgency to get the runner... so far.

I use button throwing and always have so many that's why I don't have the fielder throw issue.

**NolanRyansSnowmonkey** · 07-12-2018, 11:55 PM

Re: Urgency Issues

Originally posted by AUTiger1

I use button throwing and always have so many that's why I don't have the fielder throw issue.

I think this is the difference too. Ive used analog throwing for a long time, and it does seem to make it more difficult. However using no meter/no feedback has been great for me. I like seeing them fire the ball when necessary. The way they throw looks realistic.

**Vanilla_Gorilla** · 07-22-2018, 07:00 PM

Re: Urgency Issues

Found the next most embarrassing Ai urgency issue yet.

Wil Myers hits a screaming groundball at Bour that he dives for and stops, flips it over to Garcia. Garcia's got him beat by about 2 steps, but decides to just shuffle over to touch the base, by then Myers has him beat by a step.

This AI is ********.

**Vanilla_Gorilla** · 07-22-2018, 07:13 PM

Re: Urgency Issues

Update

Hunter Renfroe launched a deep fly ball to dead center, got Brinson there about 2 seconds before landing, and he just stands there and takes the ball into the chest.

Oh man, not my night.

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Urgency Issues

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