CPU Outfielder Routes

[mattm7x]

I didn't notice it until that last few weeks, but has anyone noticed how bad of angles the CPU team outfielders will take? They will run horizontally until they reach the path of the ball and then run backwards to play the distance. It looks so unnatural.. Sometimes I feel like I need to draw them a map.

[underdog13]

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FWIW, I in the competitive wiffleball tournaments I play in ( Yes you read that right lol) the most common type of bad route path to a ball is when the go too much horizontal and then have to get deeper at the last second.

Personally I like how below average fielders take bad routes in the show now, unlike previous years.

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[Blzer]

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I love the bad routes. When I met Ramone back in 2011 he had explained at the time that they didn't have the CPU ever intentionally take bad routes, but that some would have slower reaction times than others. It's great that they have programmed some sense of randomization into it (based on their attributes, of course).

I do however hate how they know when the ball is going to carom off the wall, though. I don't mean in a "maybe they could have caught it" kind of way (because they have sometimes tried to catch it and flubbed it), I mean in a "darn it, I know my ball isn't going to go out" kind of way. If they ever do that and it's a home run, then I could live with that 100%.

[AUTiger1]

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I love the bad routes. When I met Ramone back in 2011 he had explained at the time that they didn't have the CPU ever intentionally take bad routes, but that some would have slower reaction times than others. It's great that they have programmed some sense of randomization into it (based on their attributes, of course).

I do however hate how they know when the ball is going to carom off the wall, though. I don't mean in a "maybe they could have caught it" kind of way (because they have sometimes tried to catch it and flubbed it), I mean in a "darn it, I know my ball isn't going to go out" kind of way. If they ever do that and it's a home run, then I could live with that 100%.

I love the bad routes. Adds realism to the game. Also, for outfields the hardest ball to judge is a liner hit straight at you. I know from personal experience of having played the outfield growing up. But anyway, saw something really cool playing the Reds in my last game. Liner right at CF and Ezequiel Carrera and he just absolutely froze. Had no read on it at all. By the time he realized it was going over his head it was too late to adjust and it got over his head for a double. That's realism.

[ASG82]

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I see the exact opposite. The CPU frequently makes all star defensive plays, even on Rookie and is the only one who knows exactly how the ball will bounce off the wall or the pitcher.

[mattm7x]

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I understand bad routes being taken from time to time. I played outfield all the way thru junior college. Took some bad routes myself. I will post a video soon and try to show what I am talking about. Its more the angles that are taken for a ball that may be to their left or right.

[mattm7x]

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Bad Route

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr0TNSoP9aM

Good route (even though he missed lol)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIO4GsIOq8E

[ASG82]

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It might be a bad route but he caught the ball. That's I guess more what I meant, no CPU routes are bad that cause them to not catch the ball.

[mattm7x]

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Yes. I think maybe it just an OCD thing on my part. They will usually make the catch. I just hate the almost robotic like way they go at it. Instead of taking an angle. Maybe something SDS will look at in the future.

[mkharsh33]

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They almost always lead to an inside the park HR. THAT'S what is terrible about them... that just should not happen.

[NolanRyansSnowmonkey]

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They almost always lead to an inside the park HR. THAT'S what is terrible about them... that just should not happen.

How often do you see inside the parkers? Ive only seen one against me and it was my fault, user blunder all the way. I haven't hit any either. Just curious.

[Vanilla_Gorilla]

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How often do you see inside the parkers? Ive only seen one against me and it was my fault, user blunder all the way. I haven't hit any either. Just curious.

I've had 3 insiders hit on me. 2 of them were because my guy either was late in trying to field it so the ball got under him, or because he just decided to run by the ball and not even attempt to field it. The other one was a little blooper that my guy didn't try to field and it rolled all the way to the back right wall(Fenway).

imho, fielding needs a complete strip down. There's so many bugs and quirks to it. I get the whole "Feather the Stick" but I shouldn't really have to do that, especially on assisted fielding.

[KnightTemplar]

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I've had 3 insiders hit on me. 2 of them were because my guy either was late in trying to field it so the ball got under him, or because he just decided to run by the ball and not even attempt to field it. The other one was a little blooper that my guy didn't try to field and it rolled all the way to the back right wall(Fenway).

imho, fielding needs a complete strip down. There's so many bugs and quirks to it. I get the whole "Feather the Stick" but I shouldn't really have to do that, especially on assisted fielding.

Lol, I hope the devs aren’t listening to you.

[mkharsh33]

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I know I'm fairly new to this thread (I've been around OS for many years - but I just got a ps4 and the show in late May) - and what frustrates me here sometimes (I'll just be very honest):

someone says something about things they see in the game, and that doesn't jive with what "The Show Lifers" think (who use their longevity with the game as some kind of pissing contest who sits atop the mountain) and then tells others here, "well, I most certainly don't ever see that so YOU must be out of your mind!!!!!"

Honestly, that gets to me...

Here's the deal: YES, I've seen MANY inside-the-park-HR's because of idiotic routes and bad outfield play. I don't have exact numbers, but I'd say it's between 7-10 in the many games I've played in the last couple months. I'm not stupid. It's a fact. I'm going to drop this after typing this, but I just wish the guys that seem to have some clout in this thread section would stop saying "well, I don't see this, so therefore it doesn't exist - and I hope no one listens to you because you're out of your mind..."

Rant over - but outfield play is really bad. I have base running speed at 4 - and I have outfield errors both set at 4. I am using defensive running speed at 4 (I believe both baserunning speed and defensive fielding speed should match) with their reaction speed set at 1 - to differentiate between good and bad fielders.

I'm not blind - I'm not stupid - and I'm not a bad player. I see a LOT of bad outfield routes. Not all the time, but when they happen I promise you that 85% of them lead to inside-park-HR's.

[countryboy]

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When you guys see these bad routes or misplays, can you share a video?

Doing so will allow everyone to see what you're experiencing and maybe offer help if there is something that can be done, and more importantly it will give the devs something to visually see in order to figure out what needs to be changed to correct the issue/bug, providing there is one.