Gameplay Videos - Share What You're Seeing and Discuss

**countryboy** · 07-29-2018, 08:41 PM

re: Gameplay Videos - Share What You're Seeing and Discuss

Originally posted by Blzer

What are we supposed to be discussing, exactly?

Gameplay.

There are so many different issues that are popping up and I thought I would share myself playing the game so that people could see how the game plays when I play it. See if they are seeing similarities and/or differences.

**Blzer** · 07-29-2018, 08:45 PM

re: Gameplay Videos - Share What You're Seeing and Discuss

Originally posted by countryboy

Gameplay.

There are so many different issues that are popping up and I thought I would share myself playing the game so that people could see how the game plays when I play it. See if they are seeing similarities and/or differences.

Got it.

I don't think that issues arise "within an inning" necessarily or anything like that. I've been playing for 3-4 innings so far, and nothing has jumped out at me either besides the shouting kid. Sometimes things come with touch and feel though, and sometimes things just happen simply because.

I've had my outfielders jog at balls when they should have been sprinting to cut it off, I have had identical looking balls be called home run versus in-play, etc. They don't come around every game, but when their head pokes out it is something worth mentioning.

I'd like to start capturing more of my footage as well. I have actually captured some of these, but often what happens is I either leave it on the console and forget which save has what stuff, or I need more HDD space and end up deleting it because the file is gigabytes large. I also don't like uploading these to my YouTube channel when I'm trying to get more substance on there than just these little bits.

**bcruise** · 07-29-2018, 08:46 PM

re: Gameplay Videos - Share What You're Seeing and Discuss

Originally posted by countryboy

Thanks bcruise.

I am using Youtube. I did a dummy test of myself going through menus to see if it worked and it apparently did. I am about to start up a game to stream.

Question is it possible to make the game full screen and get the "ON AIR" side bar off?

Yup - press Share - go to Sharing and Broadcast Settings > Broadcast Settings > Advanced Settings. "Display Message to Spectators and Spectators' Comments" is probably checked. Uncheck it.

You'll still see the on-air notification pop up when/if people come to the stream or if they chat. It won't stay on screen for long, though.

**countryboy** · 07-29-2018, 08:49 PM

re: Gameplay Videos - Share What You're Seeing and Discuss

Originally posted by bcruise

Yup - press Share - go to Sharing and Broadcast Settings > Broadcast Settings > Advanced Settings. "Display Message to Spectators and Spectators' Comments" is probably checked. Uncheck it.

You'll still see the on-air notification pop up when/if people come to the stream or if they chat. It won't stay on screen for long, though.

Thanks!

Got it....

I'm so technologically ignorant....

EDIT: And I've got it going....I think. I'll let you all know after 9 innings...

EDIT 2: It's a bit nerve racking playing while streaming. I keep thinking..."don't do anything stupid..LOL"

**countryboy** · 07-29-2018, 09:31 PM

re: Gameplay Videos - Share What You're Seeing and Discuss

Originally posted by Blzer

Got it.

I don't think that issues arise "within an inning" necessarily or anything like that. I've been playing for 3-4 innings so far, and nothing has jumped out at me either besides the shouting kid. Sometimes things come with touch and feel though, and sometimes things just happen simply because.

I've had my outfielders jog at balls when they should have been sprinting to cut it off, I have had identical looking balls be called home run versus in-play, etc. They don't come around every game, but when their head pokes out it is something worth mentioning.

I'd like to start capturing more of my footage as well. I have actually captured some of these, but often what happens is I either leave it on the console and forget which save has what stuff, or I need more HDD space and end up deleting it because the file is gigabytes large. I also don't like uploading these to my YouTube channel when I'm trying to get more substance on there than just these little bits.

I understand that you're not going to see everything in an inning.

This forum has become filled with back and forth of people seeing varying results. And unfortunately here of late, its turning into arguments instead of discussion. My thought is that we have the ability in this day and age to share a video of what we are seeing to show/prove what we are seeing, and that is my intention with this thread.

No more, you're wrong, you're a troll, you're a fanboy, nothing. There is no disguising/hiding what is shown in the video.

**NolanRyansSnowmonkey** · 07-29-2018, 10:03 PM

re: Gameplay Videos - Share What You're Seeing and Discuss

Originally posted by countryboy

Thanks!

Got it....

I'm so technologically ignorant....

EDIT: And I've got it going....I think. I'll let you all know after 9 innings...

EDIT 2: It's a bit nerve racking playing while streaming. I keep thinking..."don't do anything stupid..LOL"

Lol just play like normal. We all do stupid stuff at times. It would probably make everyone feel better about themselves haha

**Blzer** · 07-29-2018, 10:31 PM

re: Gameplay Videos - Share What You're Seeing and Discuss

So I'm allowed to post videos too then, right?

If so, I have three issues to bring up. I already mentioned two of them and it seems I still have those files on this flash drive.

Spoiler

**countryboy** · 07-29-2018, 10:38 PM

re: Gameplay Videos - Share What You're Seeing and Discuss

Here is the video

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/xurse8T_oCQ" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

EDIT: Could a mod please change the name of this thread to something more fitting? Maybe: GAMEPLAY VIDEOS - SHARE WHAT YOU'RE SEEING AND DISCUSS

No need for all caps.

Thank you in advance.

**KBLover** · 07-30-2018, 01:11 AM

re: Gameplay Videos - Share What You're Seeing and Discuss

Originally posted by KnightTemplar

It’s got to be an age thing. Sorry, gotta take a nap.

LUL maybe - I'm not exactly young.

Granted, I don't know your age.

**NolanRyansSnowmonkey** · 07-30-2018, 01:28 AM

re: Gameplay Videos - Share What You're Seeing and Discuss

Originally posted by Blzer

So I'm allowed to post videos too then, right?

If so, I have three issues to bring up. I already mentioned two of them and it seems I still have those files on this flash drive.

Spoiler

Not a lot to discuss on 1,3,4, and 5, at all, other than outfield jogging just clearly needs to be fixed, and that what constitutes a home run in that part of AT&T needs to be fixed. Pretty simple. Those would be perfect examples to send to SDS.

The infield fly i wouldn't worry about it. Even in real life it is a judgment call. Usually balls hit like that are ruled line drives in real life, even with that arc, not a pop up. I bet the game even lableled it a line drive.
Besides, no one got under the ball, and while it can be argued that the pitcher 'could' have gotten there and turned around, he didn't. He 'might' have had to catch it going away from the plate, or running, which is not an Infield Fly. Being a judgment call, generally umpires want someone able to be camped under the ball (even for a short time) facing home plate. (that is basically what the umpires are taught 'ordinary effort' is) before it will be called an infield fly. Some may argue it, but this play is definitely not a problem in my eyes at all.

**Blzer** · 07-30-2018, 01:42 AM

re: Gameplay Videos - Share What You're Seeing and Discuss

Originally posted by NolanRyansSnowmonkey

The infield fly i wouldn't worry about it. Even in real life it is a judgment call. Usually balls hit like that are ruled line drives in real life, even with that arc, not a pop up. I bet the game even lableled it a line drive.
Besides, no one got under the ball, and while it can be argued that the pitcher 'could' have gotten there and turned around, he didn't. He 'might' have had to catch it going away from the plate, or running, which is not an Infield Fly. Being a judgment call, generally umpires want someone able to be camped under the ball (even for a short time) facing home plate. (that is basically what the umpires are taught 'ordinary effort' is) before it will be called an infield fly. Some may argue it, but this play is definitely not a problem in my eyes at all.

I was controlling the pitcher. I started going to the ball, and thought better of it and turned away. I think I still have the original gameplay clip. Hopefully when I show it to you you'll realize that I basically exploited the game in that moment.

I'm not stating it's a game problem, but the infield fly rule is designed to prevent cheap double plays (minus bunts). Still ticks me off that the Braves were called on it in that WC game though.

EDIT: Here you go. I don't know why I didn't post this one in the first place anyway.

https://youtu.be/YDihmac5lPg

**NolanRyansSnowmonkey** · 07-30-2018, 02:04 AM

re: Gameplay Videos - Share What You're Seeing and Discuss

Originally posted by Blzer

I was controlling the pitcher. I started going to the ball, and thought better of it and turned away. I think I still have the original gameplay clip. Hopefully when I show it to you you'll realize that I basically exploited the game in that moment.

I'm not stating it's a game problem, but the infield fly rule is designed to prevent cheap double plays (minus bunts). Still ticks me off that the Braves were called on it in that WC game though.

EDIT: Here you go. I don't know why I didn't post this one in the first place anyway.

https://youtu.be/YDihmac5lPg

I am seeing it, but i still dont think it is sn infield fly. Its a judgment call on whether the pitcher could have stopped, turned around, and made it a routine play. I dont think it can be definitively said, therefore not an infield fly rule. I think even in real life that is not an Infield Fly. And i think it would have been exploited into a double play in real life also. There is no rule against not making an attempt on a ball in the air. That is a line drive, not a pop up. I am perfectly fine with that play just as it turned out.

**Caulfield** · 07-30-2018, 03:25 AM

re: Gameplay Videos - Share What You're Seeing and Discuss

On blzrs infield fly rule video, I dont know if SDS coded it this way (I doubt it) but the pitcher was the only one who could have caught the ball 'reasonably' & he wound up not being in any way involved in the play, so I dont know if that can factor in to it?

**NolanRyansSnowmonkey** · 07-30-2018, 04:45 AM

re: Gameplay Videos - Share What You're Seeing and Discuss

Originally posted by Caulfield

On blzrs infield fly rule video, I dont know if SDS coded it this way (I doubt it) but the pitcher was the only one who could have caught the ball 'reasonably' & he wound up not being in any way involved in the play, so I dont know if that can factor in to it?

Yeah i think that would be part of it in real life...i am going to spoiler this post due to length...

Spoiler

Yeah the pitcher is the only player that can factor into this play. The question is could he make an ordinary effort on that ball? Since the pitcher peeled off and wasn't involved, it is unknown whether he could have camped under it and made an ordinary effort play. Umpires generally like a player under the ball before they will call it. In the case of high pop ups, they will call it usually it its highest point.

The problem in Atlanta was that the shortstop actually got there. Had he for some unknown reason peeled off and avoided the play completely, it would not even l be a controversy. No infield fly would be called. But the moment he got there, and turned around, the umpire made his judgment call.

In real life, the ball in this video would be very difficult for the pitcher to even get to at all without making a leaping or lunging or over the shoulder catch, none of which would be "ordinary effort." It can be argued whether the 'video game' pitcher could get there comfortably. The fact that it can be argued means the judgment call isnt black and white.

There is no hard and fast rule in the book on "ordinary effort" but umpires are generally taught what to look for. Usually that means for an infielder (incuding pitchers) to be able to get underneath a pop fly with high enough trajectory, comfortably, generally facing the plate area. So while it is a judgment call, and there may be some variation in how umpires see it, this is generally what they look for. And anything out of the ordinary is likely to cause controversy.

Since this play would be a very difficult play for a pitcher to make (especially in real life) i would be surprised to ever see this called an Infield Fly. If it were in front of the mound, maybe, maybe not. The standard tends to a bit lower for pitchers since they are off balance from their follow through, and having to turn around and run off of a hill, get there, turn around, all in 3 or 4 seconds (about the same time the ball got there), all with ordinary effort.

Since the pitcher avoided the area, it makes any hope of knowing how easily he could have gotten to it almost impossible. So there would be no call in real life, in my opinion, sort of like there wouldn't have been in Atlanta if the SS decided to peel off a few seconds earlier.

But, even more importantly, the trajectory of the batted ball. I believe it was too low to be called an Infield fly unless hit maybe right at the pitcher, if even then. ( i actually believe that in real life, the pitcher could have even been closer to that play, and exploit it into a double play, and it might not be called by some umpires if any).

I have seen humpback liners like this not called an Infield Fly. And even on easier plays to make than this video shows - and they exploited it and turned it into a double play. Do they stir up controversy? Always of course. But the umpires generally know why they didn't make the call (or did) and the rule book will usually back them.

Edit: the game may very well go by trajectory or height instead of whether an infielder can get under it. But that should work the same, most of the time anyway.

**countryboy** · 07-30-2018, 08:09 AM

re: Gameplay Videos - Share What You're Seeing and Discuss

Originally posted by Blzer

So I'm allowed to post videos too then, right?

If so, I have three issues to bring up. I already mentioned two of them and it seems I still have those files on this flash drive.

Spoiler

Yes of course.

In terms of the first video, really nothing to say on that other than it needs to be addressed.

In the videos in regards to the ground rules at AT&T park, I would submit those to SDS as bugs.

As for the second video, I'm really not sure what the rule is here. I'm thinking because it was a check swing (not a full swing) the game is treating it as an attempted bunt therefore eliminating the infield fly rule. (Line drives and attempted bunts are excluded from the rule)

Major League Baseball rule 2.00: Infield Fly rule

https://www.mlb.com/news/major-league-baseball-rule-200-infield-fly-rule/c-39516960

The Official Site of Major League Baseball

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