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  • CaseIH
    MVP
    • Sep 2013
    • 3945

    #76
    Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

    Originally posted by Armor and Sword
    Come again???





    Meaning, they only focus on online play, and once the game comes out, offline issues, tend to not get fixed with NBA2k. Actually the devs of NBA2k, has the deepest and best franchise mode in all of sports games. The problem is, a lack of fouls, and a lack of a variety of fouls, as in no charging, blocking, or fouls on 3pt shot attempts.



    But this isnt the NBA2k site, and this has been talked about plenty over there. My point was, just like the other sports games, the devs arent focused anymore on offline Franchise modes. And because of that us offline Franchise players tend to get screwed.



    They are more interested in gimic fantasy modes, than they are making a simulation sports game.



    Im not saying this, as in they are screwing us over on purpose or to bash the devs by any means, as the devs have bosses that tell them what to focus on. And its quite obvious, this younger generation of gamers, are more casual sports fans, and they dont really seem to desire playing offline Franchise modes. And they are fine spending their money and/or their parents money to buy virtual currency, for these gimic modes, or to play dress up barbie with there created player,lol.



    So it seems offline Franchise mode players, are the minority now days, so there is less focus on Franchise mode for offline players. Which up until a couple yrs ago, I didnt think would happen with MLBTS.

    But more and more people are starting to admit that Franchise mode in The Show is really starting to get stale, and that there doesnt seem to be much focus by the devs, to move it forward.



    I hope Im pleasantly surprised this yr, and the devs give me good reason to want to buy MLBTS19. While I love OOTP, and being able to play as the manager, and/or as a GM of a team, I do miss the feel of having the outcome be determine by my ability to pitch and hit.



    I know MLBTS or any sports console game for that matter will ever be able to be as deep as OOTP is, especially when it comes to Baseball. So I get that, but when MLBTS on the PS4, IMO hasnt taken nearly as big a step forward, as I expected it too, from the PS3.


    You can disagree with me, I could care less, thats your right, but IMO MLBTS hasnt made that big of a stride, from the previous gen console, when it comes especially to the Franchise mode. There was actually more Spring Training parks last gen, than there has been in the PS4 era.



    I really thought by what they were saying, was with the PS4, they could really see their visions realized for the future. I guess maybe thats my fault for assuming, it meant making a more realistic simulation, and there vision was to make it more for gimic fantasy mode.



    From a business standpoint, Id say it was probably a good move, because this Me Now Generation dont think twice about spending money on virtual cards packs.

    Atleast back in the day when my generation would buy baseball, basketball, or football cards, some of them would be worth money one day, these virtual packs, only last 1 yr, and then they are worthless
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    • Armor and Sword
      The Lama
      • Sep 2010
      • 21781

      #77
      Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

      Originally posted by CaseIH
      Meaning, they only focus on online play, and once the game comes out, offline issues, tend to not get fixed with NBA2k. Actually the devs of NBA2k, has the deepest and best franchise mode in all of sports games. The problem is, a lack of fouls, and a lack of a variety of fouls, as in no charging, blocking, or fouls on 3pt shot attempts.



      But this isnt the NBA2k site, and this has been talked about plenty over there. My point was, just like the other sports games, the devs arent focused anymore on offline Franchise modes. And because of that us offline Franchise players tend to get screwed.



      They are more interested in gimic fantasy modes, than they are making a simulation sports game.



      Im not saying this, as in they are screwing us over on purpose or to bash the devs by any means, as the devs have bosses that tell them what to focus on. And its quite obvious, this younger generation of gamers, are more casual sports fans, and they dont really seem to desire playing offline Franchise modes. And they are fine spending their money and/or their parents money to buy virtual currency, for these gimic modes, or to play dress up barbie with there created player,lol.



      So it seems offline Franchise mode players, are the minority now days, so there is less focus on Franchise mode for offline players. Which up until a couple yrs ago, I didnt think would happen with MLBTS.

      But more and more people are starting to admit that Franchise mode in The Show is really starting to get stale, and that there doesnt seem to be much focus by the devs, to move it forward.



      I hope Im pleasantly surprised this yr, and the devs give me good reason to want to buy MLBTS19. While I love OOTP, and being able to play as the manager, and/or as a GM of a team, I do miss the feel of having the outcome be determine by my ability to pitch and hit.



      I know MLBTS or any sports console game for that matter will ever be able to be as deep as OOTP is, especially when it comes to Baseball. So I get that, but when MLBTS on the PS4, IMO hasnt taken nearly as big a step forward, as I expected it too, from the PS3.


      You can disagree with me, I could care less, thats your right, but IMO MLBTS hasnt made that big of a stride, from the previous gen console, when it comes especially to the Franchise mode. There was actually more Spring Training parks last gen, than there has been in the PS4 era.



      I really thought by what they were saying, was with the PS4, they could really see their visions realized for the future. I guess maybe thats my fault for assuming, it meant making a more realistic simulation, and there vision was to make it more for gimic fantasy mode.



      From a business standpoint, Id say it was probably a good move, because this Me Now Generation dont think twice about spending money on virtual cards packs.

      At least back in the day when my generation would buy baseball, basketball, or football cards, some of them would be worth money one day, these virtual packs, only last 1 yr, and then they are worthless


      Thanks for clarifying! And I don't disagree with the direction of focus of Sports games today. We are being passed over by the new generation of sports gamers flocking to card modes.
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      • marbury
        Rookie
        • Apr 2008
        • 312

        #78
        Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

        With Konami's return there is no reason to pick up The Show if you are looking for a pure baseball game.
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        • MLB14
          Pro
          • May 2014
          • 636

          #79
          Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

          Originally posted by Armor and Sword
          Thanks for clarifying! And I don't disagree with the direction of focus of Sports games today. We are being passed over by the new generation of sports gamers flocking to card modes.
          My problem with the new generation of sports gamers is that half of 'em aren't actually fans of the sport. If a company starts making their sports games for gamers who aren't a fan of the sport, the game will go South.
          Do it. (Release The Show for PC)

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          • bcruise
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2004
            • 23274

            #80
            Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

            Edit: Nah, not worth dropping to that level.
            Last edited by bcruise; 01-15-2019, 09:12 PM.

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            • GoDucks1224
              MVP
              • Jul 2012
              • 2622

              #81
              MLB the show 19 or BUST

              Originally posted by marbury
              With Konami's return there is no reason to pick up The Show if you are looking for a pure baseball game.


              I know it’s a 12 team league, so I get why this is only possible for a league this small and because they had basically a 4 year development cycle. But Konami announced that they fully scanned every player in the league, and did 360° face scans. They mo-capped every players unique stance, swing, running style, everything. They’re giving every player custom AI to react like that player would. This is shaping up to be the most amazing baseball game ever. It’s a shame most of the guys here won’t play it. I’ve accepted Konami not caring about putting English in the game since it’s a Japan only release but MAN. Now would be a great time for that to change! I want all of you guys to be able to experience it!

              I’ll finish this by saying, I love The Show and will probably be buying that as well, as I have done for the last 10+ years, particularly since it will be out a month or so before PYS. But, I really feel like most of my time will be spent playing Pro Yakyū Spirits this upcoming year.

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              • bobloblah1980
                Rookie
                • Oct 2010
                • 459

                #82
                Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

                Originally posted by Lisac
                That maybe true but than at least give us some more realistic minor league stadiums and not the same generic garbage they have given us for the past 4+yrs.
                And than be able to add to those stadiums like MVP
                You do realise most not all of those "Generics" are based on actual real MILB parks with enough changes to them so Licenses aren't required ?

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                • Dolphins88
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 186

                  #83
                  Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

                  Yes I agree with most the show has become stale. They need new animations, presentation and commentary. I’m tired of broadcast team . They need to inject some life into the show ! I care more about the offline gameplay. Online modes are fine but make a separate game or something. Ill wait till it’s 19.99 if nothing major is done to gameplay. I find sports franchises becoming like COD syndrome.
                  Most of the major sports franchises have become stale with new roster updates.
                  Last edited by Dolphins88; 01-17-2019, 12:26 PM.

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                  • djgcue
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 18

                    #84
                    Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

                    About a month away from the Show 19 and after reading about what's new in '19, I can't find anything really new.

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                    • ItAllFades
                      Rookie
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 324

                      #85
                      Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

                      Nothing will ever improve like everyone wants if people just keep buying the same thing every year. Why would SDS bother making drastic changes when they can get your money releasing the same game with bogus "improvements" AND get your money buying Stubs and DD crap?

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                      • ForLoveOFBeisbol
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2019
                        • 7

                        #86
                        Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

                        Originally posted by Peter_OS
                        Agreed 100%!

                        MLB The Show is getting stale. I need to see new and fresh ideas injected into the game. Give us "franchise" players some love and go all out on this mode for MLB 19. I could care less about Diamond Dynasty. Focus on the game play and presentation as well. If I do not see any substantial improvements this might very well be the last MLB The Show baseball game I purchase.
                        Well said abd I’m 100% with you ^. Imo us Franchise players are less active on these chat boards so they don’t realize how passionate we are..also I and many friends would be more than willing to pay bit more $ if that’s what it takes to get an online franchise server... this is make or break for me

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                        • ForLoveOFBeisbol
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2019
                          • 7

                          #87
                          Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

                          Originally posted by ItAllFades
                          Nothing will ever improve like everyone wants if people just keep buying the same thing every year. Why would SDS bother making drastic changes when they can get your money releasing the same game with bogus "improvements" AND get your money buying Stubs and DD crap?
                          Sadly seems your right. They thrive off kids who buy tons of games-play show few times and move on.

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                          • ForLoveOFBeisbol
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2019
                            • 7

                            #88
                            Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

                            Originally posted by Peter_OS
                            Agreed 100%!

                            MLB The Show is getting stale. I need to see new and fresh ideas injected into the game. Give us "franchise" players some love and go all out on this mode for MLB 19. I could care less about Diamond Dynasty. Focus on the game play and presentation as well. If I do not see any substantial improvements this might very well be the last MLB The Show baseball game I purchase.
                            Spot on, I made this profile in hopes SDS realizes how many of us feel this way! I honestly don’t think they understand how quiet the online franchise ppl are so they think we’re not out here lol just PLEASE bring back online Lgs so I can buy Show again and I’ll pay extra for the online leagues! Lol ok I’ve tried

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                            • ForLoveOFBeisbol
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2019
                              • 7

                              #89
                              Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

                              Online Franchise = Point of online gameplay! It’s obviously about coin $ so what about a fee to play in leagues?! Please consider @ShowComeback

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                              • coach422001
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 1492

                                #90
                                Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

                                Originally posted by Caulfield
                                I dont play online, so I ain't got a dog in this hunt, but do any games charge to play online, sports or otherwise? Because you're already paying for psplus to play online. Gotta imagine a lot of people wouldn't want Sony double dipping into their wallet lol
                                Some of those online role playing universes required subscriptions...I don't know if they still do. When Elder Scrolls Online was coming out they were talking about needing a monthly subscription and that would have been a no go for me but they scrapped it. So I ended up buying for the price of the disc and some DLC and have probably played about 6 hours in over a year.

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