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  • KCRoyalBlue
    Rookie
    • Nov 2017
    • 29

    #1

    Does anyone use "Pitcher Analysis" or other stuff to scout opposing pitchers?

    As the title implies. Does anyone scout the pitcher that they are facing?

    I have a couple of things that I'm trying out to see if I can up my success rate in the batter's box. Tired of just reacting and hoping.

    Using "Pitching Breakdown" to identify frequency of pitch-types used and "Pitcher Analysis" for location, situation, etc.
    Last edited by KCRoyalBlue; 10-15-2018, 11:27 PM.
  • dazzelle
    Pro
    • Oct 2008
    • 684

    #2
    Re: Does anyone use "Pitcher Analysis" or other stuff to scout opposing pitchers?

    If pitcher/batter analysis was easier to access i would look at it a lot more. I still do not understand why SDS refuse to use that giant button that is sitting right in the middle of every ps4 controller. How about if i press the left side it brings up batting analysis and press the right side and it brings up pitching analysis.


    I also think there used to be more info on the pitching breakdown pop up, think it was hitting % for each pitch type or something.


    Sorry to sidetrack your topic KC but the lack of use for the touchpad as annoyed me for years but yes i would use it if it was quicker and easier to access.

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    • countryboy
      Growing pains
      • Sep 2003
      • 52720

      #3
      Re: Does anyone use "Pitcher Analysis" or other stuff to scout opposing pitchers?

      I use it all the time as both a hitter and a pitcher. And I highly recommend others use it as well especially if you’re struggling at hitting or pitching.

      I agree that it’s disappointing that it’s cumbersome to access and hope next year it’s brought back to the forefront.


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      • Subway_sub
        Rookie
        • Apr 2018
        • 80

        #4
        Re: Does anyone use "Pitcher Analysis" or other stuff to scout opposing pitchers?

        Not really I just go and swing like a mad man and hope I hit something

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        • itsmb8
          MVP
          • May 2011
          • 3361

          #5
          Re: Does anyone use "Pitcher Analysis" or other stuff to scout opposing pitchers?

          I dont go to the lengths on pitcher analysis.. But i do take a quick look at his pitches and speeds, after that I'm kinda just sitting fastball and reacting to off-speed. It worked really well in the minors and after 3 games in the majors its working okay. (outside of Taijuan Walker giving me a 4-4 debut off straight fastballs.)

          Im only a 62 overall but my plate discipline isn't bad at all so that probably helps.
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          • Caulfield
            Hall Of Fame
            • Apr 2011
            • 10986

            #6
            Re: Does anyone use "Pitcher Analysis" or other stuff to scout opposing pitchers?

            Originally posted by itsmb8
            I dont go to the lengths on pitcher analysis.. But i do take a quick look at his pitches...
            Yeah, I try not to overanalyze these things. I want to react to the pitch and try not to go the plate thinking too much. I mainly want to know if a guys fastball has movement and what his off-speed and breaking pitches are. You dont want to be up there looking for a straight 4seamer only to be shot down with a cutter. Plus, I gotta know if a guys got a straight change or a circle. The circle gives me fits but the regular change mot so much. Same with a regular curveball and a 12-6. That 12-6 is a SOB
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            • KCRoyalBlue
              Rookie
              • Nov 2017
              • 29

              #7
              Re: Does anyone use "Pitcher Analysis" or other stuff to scout opposing pitchers?

              Here's where I am......

              2024 of RTTS in my player's 7th season. Settled in as a 3B, that is a "Bat First" archetype. Power-heavy and light on the batting average, tho I had hoped to be more balanced.

              I use Dynamic difficulty. Spend 95% of the time in the "Legend" and "Legend+" area. When I'm in a prolonged slump, I might drop down to "Hall of Fame+", but usually jump right back up.

              My 2024 stats into the last week of August (minor amount of estimation, as I'm not playing as I'm posting, but this is extremely close to dead-accurate) :

              .200 BA
              40 HR's
              80 RBI's
              .275 OBP
              .475 SLG
              .750 OPS
              40 BB's
              215 Strikeouts (completely embarrassing)

              Thru mid-June, I had been hitting .153 with 19 HR's. In the past 50 games or so, I've raised my average almost .050 points and hit over 20 HR's. Definitely had a bad stretch in there, but also some very, very productive ones as well.

              When I come to the plate for my 1st AB, I'll check to see what pitch types are being thrown most often.....taking that into consideration, but mainly relying on their Pitch Confidence. Then attempt to take a few pitches, if possible.

              On the 2nd AB and beyond, I'll go into Pitcher Analysis and start looking for pitch type/location tendencies vs. RHB (which I am) in certain situations. Pretty much on "1st Pitch", "Early in Count", "Pitcher Behind in Count", and "Pitcher Ahead in Count". I then weigh that against their Pitch Confidence.

              It's slightly balky to bounce around a bit between menus, but I've gotten fairly quick with it. While it does slow my flow down, I'm seeing some success. Before this, I was reacting and hacking. That worked for levels below Hall of Fame, but I really saw things plummet at that difficulty level and beyond.

              I'm still struggling with my discipline and pitch recognition, but not quite as badly. I'm guessing the pitches more frequently and generally getting better wood on the ball.

              Anyone trying anything like this?

              Are there any scouting tools that I'm missing???

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              • lw22
                Rookie
                • Oct 2010
                • 140

                #8
                Re: Does anyone use "Pitcher Analysis" or other stuff to scout opposing pitchers?

                Originally posted by KCRoyalBlue
                As the title implies. Does anyone scout the pitcher that they are facing?

                I have a couple of things that I'm trying out to see if I can up my success rate in the batter's box. Tired of just reacting and hoping.

                Using "Pitching Breakdown" to identify frequency of pitch-types used and "Pitcher Analysis" for location, situation, etc.
                Yes, I do.......

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                • lw22
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 140

                  #9
                  Re: Does anyone use "Pitcher Analysis" or other stuff to scout opposing pitchers?

                  Originally posted by dazzelle
                  If pitcher/batter analysis was easier to access i would look at it a lot more. I still do not understand why SDS refuse to use that giant button that is sitting right in the middle of every ps4 controller. How about if i press the left side it brings up batting analysis and press the right side and it brings up pitching analysis.


                  I also think there used to be more info on the pitching breakdown pop up, think it was hitting % for each pitch type or something.


                  Sorry to sidetrack your topic KC but the lack of use for the touchpad as annoyed me for years but yes i would use it if it was quicker and easier to access.

                  "I still do not understand why SDS refuse to use that giant button that is sitting right in the middle of every ps4 controller. How about if i press the left side it brings up batting analysis and press the right side and it brings up pitching analysis."

                  me neither..... Some useful features just take too many steps (and different buttons) to get to. good idea on your part

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                  • KCRoyalBlue
                    Rookie
                    • Nov 2017
                    • 29

                    #10
                    Re: Does anyone use "Pitcher Analysis" or other stuff to scout opposing pitchers?

                    I would LOVE for the big button to have an important usage, such as scouting tools.

                    Heck, what about assigning "hot keys" for certain screens???

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                    • Impetuous65
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2015
                      • 1451

                      #11
                      Re: Does anyone use "Pitcher Analysis" or other stuff to scout opposing pitchers?

                      Originally posted by dazzelle
                      If pitcher/batter analysis was easier to access i would look at it a lot more. I still do not understand why SDS refuse to use that giant button that is sitting right in the middle of every ps4 controller. How about if i press the left side it brings up batting analysis and press the right side and it brings up pitching analysis.


                      I also think there used to be more info on the pitching breakdown pop up, think it was hitting % for each pitch type or something.


                      Sorry to sidetrack your topic KC but the lack of use for the touchpad as annoyed me for years but yes i would use it if it was quicker and easier to access.
                      AMEN!!! I made a thread about this and a dev responded stating that it was on the list for 18 and nothing happened. I don't understand how they took a tool like this and hid it in the menus.

                      Here is the thread
                      https://forums.operationsports.com/f...-expanded.html

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                      • Ace2734
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2015
                        • 437

                        #12
                        Re: Does anyone use "Pitcher Analysis" or other stuff to scout opposing pitchers?

                        Originally posted by Caulfield
                        Yeah, I try not to overanalyze these things. I want to react to the pitch and try not to go the plate thinking too much. I mainly want to know if a guys fastball has movement and what his off-speed and breaking pitches are. You dont want to be up there looking for a straight 4seamer only to be shot down with a cutter. Plus, I gotta know if a guys got a straight change or a circle. The circle gives me fits but the regular change mot so much. Same with a regular curveball and a 12-6. That 12-6 is a SOB


                        Similar strategy.

                        I look at his main pitch (for guess purposes), usually a 4seamer. I compare the velo of his main fastball with what offspeed pitches are and what confidence he has in them.

                        That’s the extent of it.


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                        • KCRoyalBlue
                          Rookie
                          • Nov 2017
                          • 29

                          #13
                          Re: Does anyone use "Pitcher Analysis" or other stuff to scout opposing pitchers?

                          I just finished my 2024 season, which included the last 3 months of using scouting tools. I was able to improve my average from a low dip of .153.....all the way up to .205 while setting records for myself of 55 HR's and 122 RBI's.

                          I just entered free agency for the first time after being a career-long Padre. Signed with the Houston Astros. Excited to play a season in the AL and going to the plate with an actual plan.

                          Can anyone get a developer from SDS to jump in and comment on the scouting tool issues we seem to be having?

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                          • bcruise
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 23274

                            #14
                            Re: Does anyone use "Pitcher Analysis" or other stuff to scout opposing pitchers?

                            I do use the analysis screens in-game, but usually only when I'm getting beat and realize I need to change my approach - I don't like fixing what's not broken in other words. After the game's over I often look at a few things such as first pitch strike %, miss/chase rate, and a few other things.

                            I check the previous at-bat chart quite a lot (mostly while pitching with R3) as it's only a single button press and doesn't take me out of the flow of the game.
                            Last edited by bcruise; 10-20-2018, 07:41 PM.

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