MLB 19: Anybody else feel this is the make/break year?

[countryboy]

Re: MLB 19: Anybody else feel this is the make/break year?

One thing for sure, if the Amarillo Sod Poodles are not in the game, it will be a hard pass for me!!

So funny you bring this up because I literally just bought this shirt....

[AUTiger1]

Re: MLB 19: Anybody else feel this is the make/break year?

The problem might be in the Show, some of these guys still have an option left that might not really supposed to have it?

It doesn't matter if a player has an option left or not, in real life if a player has a certain amount of service time then you can't send them to the minors unless they agree to it. I'm not sure what the number is (4 or 5 years I think). That isn't in The Show and it should be. Those players in real life almost always decline and elect to become a free agent instead. Then you wouldn't have the case of a player with a $20M salary in the minors. The players would elect to become a free agent and then the team is on the hook for that money.

[MLB14]

Re: MLB 19: Anybody else feel this is the make/break year?

Does anyone have even a ballpark figure of how much money they pull in yearly from the Diamond Dynasty transactions? I'm genuinely curious.

[Bullit]

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So funny you bring this up because I literally just bought this shirt....

I know right!!?? I am so pumped because I HAVE been playing a Padres franchise and having a blast. I really do hope they make it in to the game. I already know which park I am using for them.

I am so buying a hat as soon as I have extra cash. I just love this team already. LOL

[Speedy]

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Understood, but does the ENTIRE GAME have to be focused on DD while basically ignoring every other aspect of the game?

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Well, that's why I'm saying its make/break for me. The team has increased focus more on DD year after year rather than develop and push forward franchise, so my interest in the game has worsened.

An MLB season has SOOOOOOO MUCH activity throughout the year, I feel like there is so much untapped potential. Farm system development, scouting draft or opposing players (trade), developing skills, manager/coach impacts, shifts and analytics, money management, etc.

I've screamed for a while to get rid of attributes and move toward %'s and tendencies...this could then tie into selecting the right coaches to push %'s better, use shifts/platoons/analytics to get the best of your team...

That's off the top of my head. Baseball behind-the-scenes is MUCH MORE in depth than any other sport, SCEA has so many opportunities than focusing on DD. My fear though is that since more users play DD (and indirectly provide cash flow) than us old-school offline franchise players, we'll continue to be left in the dust.

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[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: MLB 19: Anybody else feel this is the make/break year?

Understood, but does the ENTIRE GAME have to be focused on DD while basically ignoring every other aspect of the game?

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It's a riddle in a conundrum wrapped up in an enigma inside of a dilemma wrapped in a predicament.

When DD first debuted (I forget what year that was), the general consensus was "neat, not sure if I'll ever play it but it seems interesting." Fast forward to now and that neat little mode has gone from Gizmo to gremlin (why did we feed it after midnight?) and seems to drive all of the studio's design decisions. Take a look at that home screen that Dick Dalewood posted earlier in this thread if you don't believe it. Or take a look at all the 'packs this, stubs that, legends the other' that they are always hawking. On some level, I can't blame them for trying to make that paper, but as a fan of real, simulation-style baseball and franchise mode, I think they've pretty much jumped the shark at this point. Even when they deign to improve gameplay or animations lately, it's very specific to closing loopholes and exploits that people have been using in online/DD. When they try to add depth, the implementation seems half-baked (quirks, for example, or archetypes in rtts). Other legacy issues (no rotating interleague schedules to name just one) persist. And this doesn't even address the 10-20 patches that are necessary every year to update the game post-release or the stealth removal of certain modes (season, online franchise).

It's a tricky spot for a consumer/baseball lover to be in right now. Everyone needs to do what they think is best. If you just straight love the game, then great! If you're nonplussed but want to support SDS no matter what because you believe there'd be no decent baseball games at all without The Show, I can't fault that sentiment. If you are going to use your dollar as your vote and not buy it unless things that are important to you have been improved, this mainly describes my position and I certainly see the logic in it or I wouldn't be doing it. If you're going to complain and complain, but buy the game anyway, more power to you I guess?

I'm trying to keep an open mind this year despite not buying '18. I have been happy with the game in previous cycles and severely underwhelmed in other years. I will try to judge what ends up being MLB The Show 19 on its own merits. Hopefully the devs have made a game that will provide a lot of enjoyment for us all.

[Caulfield]

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It doesn't matter if a player has an option left or not, in real life if a player has a certain amount of service time then you can't send them to the minors unless they agree to it. I'm not sure what the number is (4 or 5 years I think). That isn't in The Show and it should be. Those players in real life almost always decline and elect to become a free agent instead. Then you wouldn't have the case of a player with a $20M salary in the minors. The players would elect to become a free agent and then the team is on the hook for that money.

thanks, I certainly didnt know that. apparently someone at SDS doesnt either

also, loving the Sod Poodle name, but I'm more of a Rumble Pony kinda guy lol
there are some great team names Single A and lower that I hope the Show eventually gets around to incorporating. Braves gonna have to step it up and rebrand either Rome or Danville

[Bullit]

Re: MLB 19: Anybody else feel this is the make/break year?

thanks, I certainly didnt know that. apparently someone at SDS doesnt either

also, loving the Sod Poodle name, but I'm more of a Rumble Pony kinda guy lol
there are some great team names Single A and lower that I hope the Show eventually gets around to incorporating. Braves gonna have to step it up and rebrand either Rome or Danville

Im loving them as well obviously, LOL

I really hope they make it in as having an inaugural team would be really cool.

[tessl]

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What’s wrong with The Show can be summed up by this single picture of the game’s home screen...

I understand exactly what you are saying but I would push back with this - I don't use any of that stuff. I play franchise manage mode exclusively. However if they only marketed the game to people like me there would be no game or at best the game would have a hollowed out version of what it is.

Therefore while I don't use any of that stuff I'm fine with it because the money generated from kids buying all that stuff keeps the developers paid and as a result puts a new game on the shelf every year.

Prior to the show introducing manage mode I was still play high heat 02 because it was the last game with a manage mode. High heat went out of business.

[AUTiger1]

Re: MLB 19: Anybody else feel this is the make/break year?

It's a riddle in a conundrum wrapped up in an enigma inside of a dilemma wrapped in a predicament.

When DD first debuted (I forget what year that was), the general consensus was "neat, not sure if I'll ever play it but it seems interesting." Fast forward to now and that neat little mode has gone from Gizmo to gremlin (why did we feed it after midnight?) and seems to drive all of the studio's design decisions. Take a look at that home screen that Dick Dalewood posted earlier in this thread if you don't believe it. Or take a look at all the 'packs this, stubs that, legends the other' that they are always hawking. On some level, I can't blame them for trying to make that paper, but as a fan of real, simulation-style baseball and franchise mode, I think they've pretty much jumped the shark at this point. Even when they deign to improve gameplay or animations lately, it's very specific to closing loopholes and exploits that people have been using in online/DD. When they try to add depth, the implementation seems half-baked (quirks, for example, or archetypes in rtts). Other legacy issues (no rotating interleague schedules to name just one) persist. And this doesn't even address the 10-20 patches that are necessary every year to update the game post-release or the stealth removal of certain modes (season, online franchise).

It's a tricky spot for a consumer/baseball lover to be in right now. Everyone needs to do what they think is best. If you just straight love the game, then great! If you're nonplussed but want to support SDS no matter what because you believe there'd be no decent baseball games at all without The Show, I can't fault that sentiment. If you are going to use your dollar as your vote and not buy it unless things that are important to you have been improved, this mainly describes my position and I certainly see the logic in it or I wouldn't be doing it. If you're going to complain and complain, but buy the game anyway, more power to you I guess?

I'm trying to keep an open mind this year despite not buying '18. I have been happy with the game in previous cycles and severely underwhelmed in other years. I will try to judge what ends up being MLB The Show 19 on its own merits. Hopefully the devs have made a game that will provide a lot of enjoyment for us all.

My biggest issue is how can folks even afford to pay for a PS subscription? LOL! That's the biggest reason I don't play online. So modes like DD are a complete waste to me since I couldn't even play it if I wanted to.

[Caulfield]

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My biggest issue is how can folks even afford to pay for a PS subscription? LOL! That's the biggest reason I don't play online. So modes like DD are a complete waste to me since I couldn't even play it if I wanted to.

$25 for 3 months? I'd figure even someone on minimum wage can afford that.

[Jolly Roger]

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As a kid growing up in the 90s and 00s, it felt like we were on an exciting and inexorable progression towards greater realism and authenticity in sports gaming. The addition of licensed teams and players in the 90s was huge. The move to 3D graphics circa 2000 was massive. More console power meant more complexity to gameplay and franchise modes. I remember 15-20 years ago thinking it wouldn't be long before games were essentially perfect.


Then a funny thing happened around that same time. With online gaming becoming more viable, the profit potential it offered became so overwhelmingly enticing to game developers that they've paid little attention to anything else ever since. Lately, it even seems that many games (sports games, anyway) are becoming more quick and "arcadey" to cater to the current young crop of online gamers.


The goal of the new breed of gamer seems to be to become as good at the game as possible for competition with other gamers. The older generation's goal was to enjoy the in-game environment and gameplay. To the extent game developers wish to cater to the modern gamer, they're trying to make the game more addictive (quick gameplay, less rules, microtransactions, weekly challenges, etc.); making it more authentic and simulation is not part of this equation.



Anyway, The Show is just as much a part of this trend as any other game. I don't think it's a make or break year because they have no real competition. I'll take solace in the fact that the gameplay is quite good, even if the player models/faces and graphics are, quite frankly, very poor.

[sfpxgalaxy]

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I skipped The Show 18 and NHL 19 and I may have bought my last games of these franchises.

The focus on micro-transactions killed the sport genre for me.

I never spent a dime on a stupid card pack and never will.

I want to play a solid franchise or career mode but those are no longer improved and may even eventually be removed in a not so distant future in favor of more modes to sell micro transactions.

And they absolutely don't care about my small $60 investment compared to the hundreds or thousands of dollars they can get from addicted "collectors".

[Caulfield]

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...I don't think it's a make or break year because they have no real competition...

Yeah, unless RBI 19 takes a HUGE leap, then the real competition will come from other video games. I dont think there are enough gamers that are strictly 'baseballer only' for SDS to survive if all the casual baseball gamers leave for greener fields. I spend probably 80% of my video gametime on the Show. But before 2009 I spent probably the same 80% on NCAA football. Times change, and change quickly. I feel like SDS has one chance to get ahead of the curve if they're going to survive the inevitable next 'change'. That chance doesn't necessarily mean 2019 but time is of the essence and 2020/2021 is looming large.

[MLB14]

Re: MLB 19: Anybody else feel this is the make/break year?

SDS wants. What it wants I don't know. Do they want to become a bigger company? Do they wanna hire more people, branch out, and make more games?

Small developers do exist, survive, and succeed. I would rather them stay a smaller company and produce a product for true MLB fans, but what I want doesn't matter. I understand that, but think about it.

What is the Diamond Dynasty income funding? Have we seen anything that the money from Diamond Dynasty is funding? Do we have to see it? I guess not, but wouldn't it be nice to see things in the game we haven't seen before Diamond Dynasty started raking in millions of dollars for the company? In time, maybe we will.

We helped get this company to where it is. We as in anyone who purchased an MLB The Show game from 2007 to now. Why am I saying that? I'm saying it because it's true.

I'm posting this with the intent to invoke thought / conversation. I'm not posting it for any other reason.