Franchise Mode is Piece of a Bigger Picture Says San Diego Studios

[CujoMatty]

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This thread man....

And people wonder why SDS doesn't interact on the forums anymore.

You have so much faith in humanity countryboy lol.
I can't believe you are at all surprised by this thread. I thought you were crazy when you started a thread called "lack of attention to franchise...thoughts?" and that ended up being no better or worse.

A day ago a lot of people just thought franchise was being neglected for superficial reasons and now it's being said that it's because of an actual shift in ideology from SDS based on what they think the consumer wants. That's scary as hell to me when i'm one of the consumers not represented in that belief.

Sure some people could stand to learn how to express their frustrations more appropriately but again this thread is pretty tame all things considered. I'm just glad I now know they at least read the comments and can only hope some of this negativity can be turned into a positive and at a minimum can give pause when SDS considers their future plans. Will it? probably not but it at least makes me feel better about the situation. Oh look now i'm the one with faith in humanity! lol

[Impetuous65]

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[Siuflyer]

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What a travesty that would be...30 team control is the only way to franchise

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The list of things that would get me to completely abandon the show is pretty short, but loss of 30 team control is one. Loss of the ability to manually add or remove injuries isn’t far behind.

[Jaysguy44]

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They really need to listen to their customers, we are the gamers, we should dictate what path they take. When Codemaster botched up F1 2015 with taking out career mode us gamers reacted negatively and in response everything we wanted in the following year we got and reviews were the highest the series ever had with F1 2016. So give us what we want!!! Revamp franchise mode and give us create a stadium!!!

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[RoyalBoyle78]

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I’m very excited for the Show this year then I have ever been. Like I said a few months ago, for the cry babies, don’t buy the game and move on. I’m a franchise guy and from what I see they done even if little are things I been asking for years now. I’m ready


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[potsey7]

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If it's not about money then let me upgrade and compete in DD without having to purchase anything. Or in Franchise let me upgrade my budget without having to purchase anything. I've said this before...I dont stress about the direction of the game. It's their choice! And I'll make my own choice bout whether to purchase. But come on...dont try to convince me about something that isn't true lol. Its always about money...

They are SHOWING you where the game is headed! Every...single....year! Honestly it plays a freaking great game of baseball. I just happen to love managing a franchise also. The days of franchise improvements that make the mode more in depth are over with this game. Still dont understand why more can't realize and accept that.

[Therebelyell626]

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This thread man....

And people wonder why SDS doesn't interact on the forums anymore.

Oh please! You seem like a good guy country boy and I got nothing but respect. But let's not act like they don't interact with us because we are so "negative". They don't come here because this site has the largest franchise fanbase out of any community I have seen, and that is not their target demographic.

I am so sick of the narrative that the devs have been pushed away because of the community. That's bull. They are professionals. They should have thicker skin. If I was a member of the SDS team I would be proud that I have built up a fanbase over the years that is so passionate about the product we put out. If no one cared about this game no one would be wasting their time to voice their thoughts on the matter.

[Impetuous65]

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Oh please! You seem like a good guy country boy and I got nothing but respect. But let's not act like they don't interact with us because we are so "negative". They don't come here because this site has the largest franchise fanbase out of any community I have seen, and that is not their target demographic.

I am so sick of the narrative that the devs have been pushed away because of the community. That's bull. They are professionals. They should have thicker skin. If I was a member of the SDS team I would be proud that I have built up a fanbase over the years that is so passionate about the product we put out. If no one cared about this game no one would be wasting their time to voice their thoughts on the matter.

The funny thing about this narrative is the people making that claim are just as toxic with the rhetoric, calling people cry babies,whiners and more because they voice concern and don't look through rose colored glasses.

[ninertravel]

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The list of things that would get me to completely abandon the show is pretty short, but loss of 30 team control is one. Loss of the ability to manually add or remove injuries isn’t far behind.

I have a fear this is where it is heading 30 team control will be taken out. when you look at this MTO mode. it;s got EA with their CFM crap written all over it. when they killed franchise and brought that in. they took 32 team control out. that was 6 years ago. there is a way to have 32 team control in madden now but that requires spending hours beyond hours of creating 32 team profiles then having to spend more hours re order depth charts making the transactions needed. etc and then half the damm free agents VANISH from the game. That mode is designed for online single player because of 1 profile. that is why making 32 damm profiles is a time wasting joke. it only took then 5 years to fix the Long snapper even being able to be on the depth chart issue.

Baseball games in the past didn't have 30 team control it was rare to see. MLB the show was one of the first back then they listened to us and put it in the game. if the gaming industry is heading this battle royal fortnite bandwagon. this can all take a back seat.

While franchise on MLB the show has small updates. it still doesn't have it's fixes we have been asking for. like the playoff rosters. or import a player option. (it is there is is grayed out so it's never been put in)they don't even bother to try and make fixes for issues for years. instead lets create Retro mode lets create M2O. lets not fix our current modes.

Think about all the gameplay changes... it was all because of online play in DD nothing to do with franchise. players cheesing running between bases. etc I never had this issue against the CPU. all the fixes were for that.

[SOU7GLO]

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Since transparency seems to be the goal, I would love to hear the plan for franchise going forward. Specifically, online franchise.

If EA or 2K decide to get back into baseball and produce a title with solid gameplay with online leagues/franchise I know I’d make the switch. And I’m probably not alone.

If those companies did make a return to the diamond, I believe online franchise would make a return to The Show. It really is disappointing it’s not in. Playing the CPU over a human is not where it’s at...especially 29 others in a league environment. Trades, rivalries, pennant chases, free agents, etc. It doesn’t get better than that.


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[Siuflyer]

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I have a fear this is where it is heading 30 team control will be taken out. when you look at this MTO mode. it;s got EA with their CFM crap written all over it. when they killed franchise and brought that in. they took 32 team control out. that was 6 years ago. there is a way to have 32 team control in madden now but that requires spending hours beyond hours of creating 32 team profiles then having to spend more hours re order depth charts making the transactions needed. etc and then half the damm free agents VANISH from the game. That mode is designed for online single player because of 1 profile. that is why making 32 damm profiles is a time wasting joke. it only took then 5 years to fix the Long snapper even being able to be on the depth chart issue.

Baseball games in the past didn't have 30 team control it was rare to see. MLB the show was one of the first back then they listened to us and put it in the game. if the gaming industry is heading this battle royal fortnite bandwagon. this can all take a back seat.

While franchise on MLB the show has small updates. it still doesn't have it's fixes we have been asking for. like the playoff rosters. or import a player option. (it is there is is grayed out so it's never been put in)they don't even bother to try and make fixes for issues for years. instead lets create Retro mode lets create M2O. lets not fix our current modes.

Think about all the gameplay changes... it was all because of online play in DD nothing to do with franchise. players cheesing running between bases. etc I never had this issue against the CPU. all the fixes were for that.

I used to be a loyal Madden purchaser too, stopped about 6 years ago. Not a coincidence. I’d hate to have nothing to play all year besides NBA2k, but if it comes to that oh well. I hope SDS doesn’t end up going down the same road as EA.

[CoiaNY]

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That video, man. Weird flex, but ok.

[knich]

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This thread man....

And people wonder why SDS doesn't interact on the forums anymore.

You have to take the good with the bad, no one is calling them names. People are expresing their disappointment. Reading this forum has not really weighted into any decision in the game, and besides they do come here and read. Some of you guys act like we are getting this game for free.

I have been saying for the last couple years that some of the comments on this forum was likely to drive and probably have driven away SDS. That said, I have been reading this thread very closely and I think the thread has been very fair to SDS. It has been critical, but respectful. For this individual at least, I applaud the civility toward SDS in this thread while still maintaining your right to respectfully criticize.

[knich]

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The only thing encouraging about this interview is the reminder that Livingston and the SDS team still read threads on OS.

I was an Xbox lifer and bought a PS4 mainly because I wanted to enjoy MLB The Show. I wasn't playing The Show when developers were participating on these forums regularly, so I don't know what that feels like. This article just makes me wish for times like that.

Maybe then I would be more motivated to believe franchise will receive an overhaul. I'm curious why--since this interview was specifically for OS--neither developer went into more detail about under the hood improvements to franchise. Millennium mentioned the SDS team makes franchise AI tweaks every cycle in his recap stream.

Why not use this interview as an opportunity to talk about that?

Has he been doing videos this year? I can't seem to locate his channel?

[TheWarmWind]

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This thread man....

And people wonder why SDS doesn't interact on the forums anymore.

This was an instance where they shouldn't have interacted with the OS community.

I mean, if I were in charge of PR at SDS, there is no way I would have let Nick talk about anything even close to the subject of franchise in an interview with OS. There was no positive outcome in this scenario.

And I think it's more than fair to say that SDS has earned a little indignation from long time fans of Franchise. It is possible the entire situation could have been saved if he showed more concern for the hardcore franchise player, but as it stands, there was no way this article was going to serve any purpose but to act as a flashpoint for people's frustration with the stagnation and lack of fixes for the mode.