Transparency from SDS

[KnightTemplar]

Re: Transparency from SDS

Piss on that. I'll take Franchise as is, over not at all.

Yes.

If people think there has been zero improvements, the game is broken, don’t by the game out of the gate.

[bkrich83]

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Why do you need them to come out and say anything?!?!



They haven't improved the mode in 10+ years that I recall, what more evidence do you need?



I don't understand why everyone is so upset about their "lack of attention" now. It's been the same forever and yet this game was praised as infallible year after year, of course they would never improve.. More ball physics every year. Now people are complaining about "service time". Is that really that big of a deal? You refuse to play because some guys service time if off?



I skipped 18 due to the lack of attention and I'm actually loving '19. .

Agree. Maybe I’m missing something but how does service time being off for a handful of players render the entire mode useless?


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[CanOfCornCobb]

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Agree. Maybe I’m missing something but how does service time being off for a handful of players render the entire mode useless?


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Lol it doesn't unless you sim the max amount of seasons and are really anal about those things

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[tessl]

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Agree. Maybe I’m missing something but how does service time being off for a handful of players render the entire mode useless?


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It isn't useless and I still plan to buy 19 as soon as I'm confident the new salary and team budget issues are addressed.

In a carry over franchise one thing that needs to be done reasonably good is the team budget and contracts. Best case scenario they are working on it and will patch it.

The good news is I'm fine with continuing 18 until they get 19 fixed.

[BlueSkies77]

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What the hell is “service time”? Geez I don’t mean to complain but why are games getting so complicated?

[TheBigTee]

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I think with sports games in particular the annual release has made it very difficult for these companies to put out a “finished” product.

All sports games at this point require multiple patches to get to the point where I can personally enjoy them.

I preordered nba 2k19 and waited all year for them to patch the age issues with draft classes. Finally after 5 months without any fix I traded the game in.

I’ve gotten to the point where I will not preorder games anymore. This way I can read reviews, wait for updates rosters, and the bugs to be fixed.

MLB 19 was the first time I didn’t preorder and so far I don’t miss it at all, because I know it’d just be collecting dust anyway. The other benefit is if the bugs I’m concerned about don’t get fixed I won’t bother wasting money on the game. Or if they do get fixed I can get the game and start up a franchise right away. And by the time the fixes come the game may be less expensive too.

In summary, I just don’t think it’s worth pre-ordering sports games anymore...at least not for me.


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[bravesfan1984]

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What the hell is “service time”? Geez I don’t mean to complain but why are games getting so complicated?

April 1 joke or nah?...

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[BlueSkies77]

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April 1 joke or nah?...

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I honestly have no idea what service time is within the game. Years active?

[bravesfan1984]

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I honestly have no idea what service time is within the game. Years active?

Service time is the amount of time a player has spent on the active roster/injured list in his career.

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[Bunselpower32]

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I think with sports games in particular the annual release has made it very difficult for these companies to put out a “finished” product.

All sports games at this point require multiple patches to get to the point where I can personally enjoy them.

I preordered nba 2k19 and waited all year for them to patch the age issues with draft classes. Finally after 5 months without any fix I traded the game in.

I’ve gotten to the point where I will not preorder games anymore. This way I can read reviews, wait for updates rosters, and the bugs to be fixed.

MLB 19 was the first time I didn’t preorder and so far I don’t miss it at all, because I know it’d just be collecting dust anyway. The other benefit is if the bugs I’m concerned about don’t get fixed I won’t bother wasting money on the game. Or if they do get fixed I can get the game and start up a franchise right away. And by the time the fixes come the game may be less expensive too.

In summary, I just don’t think it’s worth pre-ordering sports games anymore...at least not for me.


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I agree with you in the general sense of what you’re saying, but I will take a somewhat opposed stance when it comes to patches. NBA that you mentioned, while yes, the things that need to be patched like that are obvious candidates and should be fixed, I would live with that over the constant tweaking and peeling back of the gameplay until they hit the opening day product of the previous year. I think 18 played better on release day than the final day, and I think the same about NBA. NBA was smoother and had better player interaction. MLB had better hit variety and smoother bat ball interaction, at least to me. But that’s online driving the rest of the game.

But I do agree about the cycle. They can’t keep this years game going and be expected to be making last year's too. And I am currently waiting for the July sale because I am a franchise player and without the good rosters from this community I might not buy at all.

[tessl]

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I honestly have no idea what service time is within the game. Years active?

Service time is how much time the have spent in MLB. I think - not positive - 172 days = 1 year. If you see 1.55 service time it is 1 year and 55 days.

Generally speaking players under 3 years have renewable contracts which makes them cheap - except for super 2's but that's complicated. Players with 3 years but less than 6 get arbitration. When players reach 6 years unless they have signed a contract they are eligible to become free agents.

Service time essentially is used to determine salary and free agency unless a player signs a contract.

[Ace1234NY]

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Yeah. Service time is a huge deal if you plan to play more than one season, as it determines when players are eligible for arbitration or free agency. This is not some obscure thing. Acuna not getting credit for service time last year will essentially delay when he is eligible for arbitration as the Braves jerked him around for a couple weeks to get the extra year of control. But in general, if service time is screwed up, you could end up with players not becoming free agents when they're supposed to. Imagine playing last year and Harper wasn't a free agent after season one. People would notice. This stuff does matter.

[BlueSkies77]

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Thanks for those explanations. Makes sense and would be a big deal if you’re a big Franchise player.

[bkrich83]

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Yeah. Service time is a huge deal if you plan to play more than one season, as it determines when players are eligible for arbitration or free agency. This is not some obscure thing. Acuna not getting credit for service time last year will essentially delay when he is eligible for arbitration as the Braves jerked him around for a couple weeks to get the extra year of control. But in general, if service time is screwed up, you could end up with players not becoming free agents when they're supposed to. Imagine playing last year and Harper wasn't a free agent after season one. People would notice. This stuff does matter.

Hardly the mode killer it’s made out to be by some. Annoying? Absolutely.

[ninertravel]

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Agree. Maybe I’m missing something but how does service time being off for a handful of players render the entire mode useless?


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well if you want Acuna winning rookie of the year every first year and being refereed to as 'in his rookie season' and top prospect then sure. it's glaring and bleeding of the ears issue. perhaps DD guys wont give a crap about that they just want their cards and stubs. but people that watch baseball expect to see and hear what they see and hear on TV.

You wouldn't see them screw up bryce Harper being cover boy they went to the effort of getting his portrait in the game being a late signing and didn't put manny machado in who signed a couple of weeks before Harper, it's priority and half a''d things like that. I am sure they had to make every effort to make sure harper was 100% perfect because he is on the cover but forget about the rookie of the year commentary or service time or the many other players portraits that they were not worried about because their name wasn't bryce harper