What to do with a declining veteran?

[kinsmen7]

Re: What to do with a declining veteran?

I try to keep my franchise budget and trades realistic-ish, so I'd either:
-Manually injure him like someone else said.
-Send him to A and eat the contract, which is essentially the same thing as manually injuring him.
-DFA/Release him and eat the contract.

I've got Chen on my Marlins, and he doesn't really fit in my pen anymore. It's not the same as having a face-of-the-franchise type player like Pedroia, but I DFA'd him yesterday, and will likely end up releasing him when the 10 days are up. Opens up a roster spot to sign or trade for a prospect in the future, leaves me with the salary obligations, and frees him up to sign somewhere else if there's a market. Pedroia has probably regressed enough, that he'd just end up as an FA and retire at the end of the year anyway.

[Armor and Sword]

Re: What to do with a declining veteran?

I would manually injure him, despite it not being the most dignified way to do a player who has been so good to a franchise, I think its what happens a lot of times IRL. Players get put on the IL for minor injuries that they cannot seem to shake. They are more valuable hurt, but still on the team, than they are on the bench or the minors.

He is old, has bad knees, he is trying to fight through it, and it does not seem to be working IRL. So why not bring that same "story line" into your Franchise?

Manually injure him, make it last a couple months, when he is healthy send him to AA on "rehab" for a week or two and see where you are then. Your bench may not be as good, you may have lost other players to legit injuries, or traded someone away.....or maybe he gets hurt again (see Tulo).

During the off-season you then figure out what you want to do. Like someone said, maybe lowering his stats to 0 will force him to retire. Again, this is not that different than what I think is happening and will happen IRL at this point.

As a side note, I would also add another position for him maybe 1B (if he doesn't have that already).
He gets to fill in at 1B and DH to give someone a spell every now and then when healthy. It is a less demanding position and gets his bat in lineup every now and then. Maybe even make him your 1B during the AA rehab. It sounds like you are trying to do the right thing AND make it realistic, so I think little things like that will help you sell it, to yourself :-)

I do not know if I have the heart to do that to Gardy. Such a gamer for so many years. But man...he is taking up space on my bench. We will have to see how the season moves along.....maybe we generate a random number at some point. I also don't have the heart to trade him. Guy is supposed to retire a Yankee.

[El_MaYiMbE]

Re: What to do with a declining veteran?

I do not know if I have the heart to do that to Gardy. Such a gamer for so many years. But man...he is taking up space on my bench. We will have to see how the season moves along.....maybe we generate a random number at some point. I also don't have the heart to trade him. Guy is supposed to retire a Yankee.

It's tough, but I think the end is near for Gardy IRL. When the Yankees OF is healthy I think he is the odd man out. Frazier is the new starting LF in my opinion and Hicks and Judge are locks. While the Yankees aren't going to trade him, release him or demote him it is probably his last year in pinestripes unless one of the OF gets hurt long term.

[Armor and Sword]

Re: What to do with a declining veteran?

It's tough, but I think the end is near for Gardy IRL. When the Yankees OF is healthy I think he is the odd man out. Frazier is the new starting LF in my opinion and Hicks and Judge are locks. While the Yankees aren't going to trade him, release him or demote him it is probably his last year in pinestripes unless one of the OF gets hurt long term.

Agreed. He was already pushed out by Clint Frazier in my chise and I re-aquired Aaron Hicks for Jorge Mateo. So he is not even getting any AB’s anymore.


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[El_MaYiMbE]

Re: What to do with a declining veteran?

Agreed. He was already pushed out by Clint Frazier in my chise and I re-aquired Aaron Hicks for Jorge Mateo. So he is not even getting any AB’s anymore.


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Break his leg and be done with it lol

[Armor and Sword]

Re: What to do with a declining veteran?

Break his leg and be done with it lol

Ok we are taking him out to the wood shed tonight and I called Vinny the Fish to come over and take care of “that thing” I need done.


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[Caulfield]

Re: What to do with a declining veteran?

I dont know if we're doing the humane thing or the selfish thing. where's Robert Deniro when you really need him

[Armor and Sword]

Re: What to do with a declining veteran?

Well just finished a game and Jarrod Dyson just broke his arm!! Out 1-2 months.

Gardy will get some PT LOL!


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[El_MaYiMbE]

Re: What to do with a declining veteran?

Well just finished a game and Jarrod Dyson just broke his arm!! Out 1-2 months.

Gardy will get some PT LOL!


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Hanging on! It always seems to work itself out.

[TGov]

Re: What to do with a declining veteran?

One thing going for my situation is how versatile my team is. I could move JD Martinez to the OF with Devers going to DH would open up 3B easily, so JBJ could get less playing time. Also Chavis can play 3B, 1B and 2B so with that in mind I can have anyone other than SS and C get injured/traded/DFA and he would have a spot. *Knock on wood

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[Caulfield]

Re: What to do with a declining veteran?

When someone figures out what I can do with Chris Davis, lemme know. $92 million aint chump change

so I wound up releasing Davis, paying him $31 mill, then was able to resign him for 4 years $2.2 mill, for a total savings of nearly $59 mill. so why wouldnt Baltimore attempt this IRL? would they be on the hook for the whole $92 mill, and not get the deal the Show gives?

[delv213]

Re: What to do with a declining veteran?

so I wound up releasing Davis, paying him $31 mill, then was able to resign him for 4 years $2.2 mill, for a total savings of nearly $59 mill. so why wouldnt Baltimore attempt this IRL? would they be on the hook for the whole $92 mill, and not get the deal the Show gives?

There is no savings in a guaranteed contract unless the player and team agree to it of which the player has no obligation to not hold the team accountable to what they agreed upon in a contract.

If Davis is released the Orioles eat the remainder of his contract unless another team signs him, that team would be on hold for 550k or whatever major league minimum is these days. The Orioles would save that much. Just like what the Red Sox are doing paying Pablo Sandoval everything but major league minimum as the Giants are on hold for that.

[jaato]

Re: What to do with a declining veteran?

Yeah In This game alot of the time I will release players cuz you save to much money doing it, also feel less cheap than injuring them or lowering there stats to for a retire

[Rocket32]

Re: What to do with a declining veteran?

so I wound up releasing Davis, paying him $31 mill, then was able to resign him for 4 years $2.2 mill, for a total savings of nearly $59 mill. so why wouldnt Baltimore attempt this IRL? would they be on the hook for the whole $92 mill, and not get the deal the Show gives?

Didn’t know you could do that. Took a look in my franchise and you’re right, that does work. I’d feel a bit guilty about doing it with Davis because it would kind of feel like cheating to me if it’s correct and you actually save all that money. 99% sure it doesn’t work that way in real life, no way Davis would still be an Oriole if they could save all that money by releasing him.


Think a team would be on the hook for all of it in real life. I think you could justify doing it with guys like Ellsbury and David Wright (before he retired) since insurance covers most of it while they are injured in real life even though I’m pretty sure they still count against the luxury tax.

[Caulfield]

Re: What to do with a declining veteran?

Didn’t know you could do that. Took a look in my franchise and you’re right, that does work. I’d feel a bit guilty about doing it with Davis because it would kind of feel like cheating to me if it’s correct and you actually save all that money. 99% sure it doesn’t work that way in real life, no way Davis would still be an Oriole if they could save all that money by releasing him.



Think a team would be on the hook for all of it in real life. I think you could justify doing it with guys like Ellsbury and David Wright (before he retired) since insurance covers most of it while they are injured in real life even though I’m pretty sure they still count against the luxury tax.

I probably wouldnt have done it but his attitude (morale) in the Show is fubar . He's so damn smug (in the Show). Here I'm paying him $23 mill a season, his expectancy for individual performance is only ''replacement level'' , wth? You're being paid like a star, you should at least act like you care his morale should be down for that IMO