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  • Caulfield
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    • Apr 2011
    • 10986

    #1

    Pitchers with Stamina between 50-59

    Pitchers with stamina in the range of 50-59, do you set their primary position as SP or RP? Just curious what the most common preference is
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  • Jeffrey Smith
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    • Apr 2014
    • 1925

    #2
    Re: Pitchers with Stamina between 50-59

    I leave them at whatever they are but use them as long relief.


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    • Caulfield
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      • Apr 2011
      • 10986

      #3
      Re: Pitchers with Stamina between 50-59

      it will bump their overall upwards if you make a reliever (some, not all) into a starter, which in & of itself, means very little, or nothing. but it will also make their salary expectation higher if they are classified as a starter. I prefer having ''relievers under 50 & starters be over 50''. Its a silly idiosyncrasy I have but maybe I should mentally adjust my OCD to be ''relievers under 60 & starters over 60''
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      • bravesfan1984
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        • Mar 2008
        • 2808

        #4
        Re: Pitchers with Stamina between 50-59

        In my personal roster sets, I always have SPs with stamina 60+ and relievers 35-59 (multi inning/swing guys) and 34 or less for one-two inning guys. Just personal preference. Any time someone is switched between the two, I'll edit the stamina accordingly.
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        • MightyMaxxx13
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          • Aug 2012
          • 407

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          Re: Pitchers with Stamina between 50-59

          Originally posted by Caulfield
          it will bump their overall upwards if you make a reliever (some, not all) into a starter, which in & of itself, means very little, or nothing. but it will also make their salary expectation higher if they are classified as a starter. I prefer having ''relievers under 50 & starters be over 50''. Its a silly idiosyncrasy I have but maybe I should mentally adjust my OCD to be ''relievers under 60 & starters over 60''
          For me starters need at least 65 stamina to get through 5 innings, and thats if they pitch well. 50’s is a 3-inning reliever in my book.

          When I convert starters into full-time relievers I have a rule for the attribute edits. I’ll edit the guys stamina down, but edit the other attributes up so that he ends up with the same OVR. IE if a guy is 71 overall with 68 stamina, I’ll lower his stamina to say 38, then boost his other attributes until he gets back to 71 overall. In my mind thats a realistic way of having a guy’s stuff “play up” in short stints out of the bullpen.

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          • Rmiok222
            MVP
            • Nov 2015
            • 3129

            #6
            Pitchers with Stamina between 50-59

            It may be cheesy but I like finding the young relievers that have like 75 stamina and turning them into a starter. Super cheap. I can’t bring myself to do it but you can get josh James from the Astros for way less than what he’s actually worth. I guess just because he’s listed as a reliever


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            • kinsmen7
              MVP
              • Mar 2016
              • 1661

              #7
              Re: Pitchers with Stamina between 50-59

              If I plan on having them start, I'll bump their stamina up. If I plan on having them as a reliever, I'll leave it where it is or drop it slightly.

              IMO the stamina attribute is very much a "sim" attribute. It's used to control the amount of innings a guy will throw throughout the season. If you're simming, you still end up seeing these guys throw 5+ innings during many games, but at the end up the year they're around 120-150ish IP (Which is realistic for a lot of these guys).

              If you're playing every game though, it's not realistic for a guy to be gassed every game in the 3rd inning.

              Maybe that's a cheese move, but it's worked for me!
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              • Therebelyell626
                MVP
                • Mar 2018
                • 2892

                #8
                Re: Pitchers with Stamina between 50-59

                Reliever definitely. At 50-59 you would be lucky to get 4 innings out of them. Won't even qualify for the win

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                • Caulfield
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                  • Apr 2011
                  • 10986

                  #9
                  Re: Pitchers with Stamina between 50-59

                  I guess I don't know what I thought I knew. I really thought this would be split fairly even. Well, at least its apparently a no-brainer, I'm glad to learn
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                  • underdog13
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                    • Apr 2012
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                    #10
                    Re: Pitchers with Stamina between 50-59

                    Originally posted by Caulfield
                    I guess I don't know what I thought I knew. I really thought this would be split fairly even. Well, at least its apparently a no-brainer, I'm glad to learn
                    At first I thought the question was for Stamina between 50-99 and I was sure you had lost a marble
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                    • tessl
                      All Star
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 5685

                      #11
                      Re: Pitchers with Stamina between 50-59

                      At somewhere around 20% to 25% stamina pitchers attributes decline. With an MLB average of around 15 pitches an inning a pitcher with stamina of 50-59 will be around a 4 inning pitcher. On a really good day maybe 5 innings.

                      Your bullpen will be overworked with a guy like that if you make him a starter.

                      If his h/9 bb/9 k/9 are good enough he is a middle or long reliever.

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                      • kinsmen7
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2016
                        • 1661

                        #12
                        Re: Pitchers with Stamina between 50-59

                        If you end up deciding to leave them as starters, you could always piggy-back starters like they do in the minors if you're not interested in changing their stamina?

                        Pitcher A throws 3-4 innings, then pitcher B goes 3-4 innings.

                        I guess it all depends on how competitive you're planning for your team to be. I wish that you could stretch guys out a bit more to build their stamina, but if I recall correctly, they don't progress their stamina numbers.
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