This ruined the game (new patch):

[thedeafpoliceman]

Re: This ruined the game (new patch):

This newer patch said it has a higher line drive success rate. I think the one two days before was suppose to have more floaters, less contact.

I have no idea what’s going on!


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See when I read "slightly increase the line drive success rate" my impression was that it impacted the line drive success so they're not as likely to go straight at the defense and will find the gaps for base hits more often, not the actual frequency or amount of line drives off the bat compared to other types of contact.

All in the eye of the beholder with patch notes haha

[JHodges57]

Re: This ruined the game (new patch):

See when I read "slightly increase the line drive success rate" my impression was that it impacted the line drive success so they're not as likely to go straight at the defense and will find the gaps for base hits more often, not the actual frequency or amount of line drives off the bat compared to other types of contact.

All in the eye of the beholder with patch notes haha

Based on the game I just played, it does appear that line drives are falling in open areas better than they were before.

[Rmiok222]

Re: This ruined the game (new patch):

See when I read "slightly increase the line drive success rate" my impression was that it impacted the line drive success so they're not as likely to go straight at the defense and will find the gaps for base hits more often, not the actual frequency or amount of line drives off the bat compared to other types of contact.

All in the eye of the beholder with patch notes haha

Honestly what you’re saying makes more sense now. I play with solid hits at 4. Hit variety is nice post patch. Can’t decide if I wanna bump it up to 5 though or not on HOF.


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[thedeafpoliceman]

Re: This ruined the game (new patch):

Honestly what you’re saying makes more sense now. I play with solid hits at 4. Hit variety is nice post patch. Can’t decide if I wanna bump it up to 5 though or not on HOF.


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I use Armor's set with a couple of tweaks to the lesser options (wind, pitcher stamina) so my power and timing are at 6 with solid hits at 4. Having not tried today's update I'll wait to see if I need to test it but I might put solid hits at 5 while dropping power to 5 based on some things I've heard. I usually bring a slider down if I'm bumping another up unless it egregiously needs adjusting.

[countryboy]

Re: This ruined the game (new patch):

Honestly what you’re saying makes more sense now. I play with solid hits at 4. Hit variety is nice post patch. Can’t decide if I wanna bump it up to 5 though or not on HOF.


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I would leave it alone if you’re happy with the results


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[ajs41072]

Re: This ruined the game (new patch):

The yellow circle that shows after you take a swing seems much smaller post patch. I played a 3rd inning conquest game on rookie last night against the Cubs. It's a 3 inning game that went 10 and I lost 1-0. Today I played the Verlander moment which is a 3 inning game on All Star and that went 12 and I lost 1-0. Just played 4 inning of the 3rd inning boss battle and I'm down 1-0 in the 4th inning and I gave up. In the 2nd inning conquest I was putting up runs on Veteran and I conquered the whole map. I can't do a thing now on any difficulty. My experience from above on Rookie and All Star was exactly the same. The swing now covers such a small part of the strike zone (it's not much bigger than the baseball) you have to be exactly on it to get any kind of hit. I understand the concept of it, but I feel it has to be expanded in order to have the experience of playing this game feel like a baseball game.

[LilLefty34]

Re: This ruined the game (new patch):

Is it just me or is it harder to pitch? I feel like it’s ultra sensitive to the side and when I’m trying backdoor sliders i leave them in the middle of the plate because I don’t wanna overdo it to the side(analog pitching) and the up flick is waaaaay faster. I’m fine with the timing window as I’ve had some good success but it does feel like pitching is much harder. At first I felt it broke the game but I am getting used to it

[stealyerface]

Re: This ruined the game (new patch):

Played my first full game since the patch update. (newest patch of the new patch)

Scored 5 runs in the first inning off of Edwin Jackson. Beat him like a rented mule, and he threw 35 pitches in the first inning.

I took the mound in the bottom of the first with a big lead, and pitched fairly aggressively to the strike zone as a result of my lead.

The ball definitely has more backspin, is more lively, seems to hang up in the air and with more travel that I have ever noticed with MLBTS. The ball is also more lively along the ground, and even though I was playing on turf in Toronto, I could tell there seems to be less friction on the ball. I also feel the friction and gravity has been changed on throws as well. Long throws from the outfield (Outfielder Throw Strength at 6) seemed to have the same baskspin, and therefore, carry than the old version. Could be placebo, but I swear there was something different. I have forever felt that the grass/turf friction was a little too much in years past. Mind you, the ball should scoot on turf, so I'll need more testing, but I think the ball might be a tad too lively, and maybe somewhere between the newest update, and 2 patches ago would be dialed in just right. Again, not enough test games on grass... I'll dig into that soon.

Anyway, I took that 5-0 lead into the 5th, then gave up a McKinney homerun, and even though it was a mere 415 feet, the ball flight, due to the increased backspin (IMO) was more "majestic"... it just seemed more like what a ball looks like at Rogers Centre, with the roof closed.

Now, once we get into Wish List, if there was a friction algorithm in the game, it shoudl decrease as the season progresses, and the weather warms and the fields dry out. Balls in the grass that are gotten to by the right fielder in April would go easily to the wall in August. True fact, and easily done under the hood.

Short story, I left Workman in too long, and Vladdy Junior busted me up badly in the 8th, and the Jays hold on with 100 Miles Giles blowing me away in the top of the ninth.

I lose 5-6 give up two long homeruns, and had dominated for 5 innings with three hit ball until I just got sloppy and stopped paying full attention. I got sloppy with pitches and location, and really, due to a phone call mid game, did not stay on the gameplan that I like to utilize for wining baseball.

I then immediately went to the OS forum, and Started a big thread about how the new patch sucks, and the comeback code ruined the game, and I'm not playing it until they fix it.... oh wait, no I didn't... because I am not thirteen years old.

So far, aside from the loss, I am not opposed to the new ball mechanics. I have had Solid Hits set at 4 for the past five years, so no need to panic or get Slideritis. Game played great, I LOVE the new manual fielding after they fixed it, and love the animations, as well as the throwing with the Meter On, but set to no feedback. I love "knowing" when I True-Analog that throw from third to first, that it is going to be a good throw, without seeing the green marker spoiling it for me. I have the sensitivity and the difficulty dialed in, and am loving the defense this year. Also, throws from the outfield to home, when on target, are just too cool.

I am getting strikeouts when appropriate, didn't notice anything out of the ordinary there, I had more balls carry into the gaps, but with the Fielder Speed and Reaction set at 2, the ball carries over the outfielders heads, into the corners... It really forces my hand with my flash cards, to play tendencies and move the guys around accordingly.

What more can you ask from a game, when you study the hitter's tendencies, shift the outfield to pull, move them back, and have a frozen rope hit directly to your outfielder, EXACTLY where you played him? If I would have been lazy, not paid attention, and left a straight up defense, with their Speed and Reaction at 2, they are dead meat out there if I am not moving them around to play the trends. Conversely, if I do move them, and then pitch away from the shift, and someone pokes a ball over third base, that batter will run forever while I try and get my shifted left fielder back to the ball.

I have set the game's speed, reaction, hit frequency, runner speed, defensive skill level, arm strength, to the point where I have to be on point 100% of the time. Take the time to see the lineup card, make notes, shift my defense, give up a walk to a monster clean up guy if need be, challenge batters when needed, intentionally walk a guy if he's a threat to the situation, and stay focused for nine innings.

The feeling of accomplishment of winning when the game is slanted toward punishing stupidity, is why this game is so good. When I lose, I can usually pinpoint my mistakes, whether it be errors or managerial, and when I win, I know I earned it.

~syf

[KBLover]

Re: This ruined the game (new patch):

The ball definitely has more backspin, is more lively, seems to hang up in the air and with more travel that I have ever noticed with MLBTS. The ball is also more lively along the ground, and even though I was playing on turf in Toronto, I could tell there seems to be less friction on the ball.

I'm liking the sound of this along with the throws also having more zip/carry on them.

[Padgoi]

Re: This ruined the game (new patch):

I lose 5-6 give up two long homeruns, and had dominated for 5 innings with three hit ball until I just got sloppy and stopped paying full attention. I got sloppy with pitches and location, and really, due to a phone call mid game, did not stay on the gameplan that I like to utilize for wining baseball.

I then immediately went to the OS forum, and Started a big thread about how the new patch sucks, and the comeback code ruined the game, and I'm not playing it until they fix it.... oh wait, no I didn't... because I am not thirteen years old.


~syf

I'm not thirteen either. You don't have to be thirteen to say you experienced something. Actually, I'm pretty sure it's more like a thirteen year old to insult someone else who doesn't agree with them.

And with that said, you were up 5-0 and lost 6-5 because "you left Workman in too long." Maybe that's true. Maybe it's not. You have your beliefs, I have mine.

[stealyerface]

Re: This ruined the game (new patch):

I'm not thirteen either. You don't have to be thirteen to say you experienced something. Actually, I'm pretty sure it's more like a thirteen year old to insult someone else who doesn't agree with them.

And with that said, you were up 5-0 and lost 6-5 because "you left Workman in too long." Maybe that's true. Maybe it's not. You have your beliefs, I have mine.

Wrong guy Pad.

You never started a thread that stated, "They broke the game, I quit until they fix it".

You and I have traded thoughts about the CC, and while I do not think there is a CC per se, I have always contended that there is "something" that leans on me either way, and it is tough to battle through, regardless of the slant.

In this particular case, I left Workman in too long. I was trying to pad his stats, he buzzed through his first inning of work, and when the game told me he was getting tired, I rolled the dice and tried to get him a two-inning keep.

It was stupid, especially seeing as though we have had much discussion this year about the relievers get tired, the penalty for keeping them in is severe. I hung a curveball, and I paid for it.

I didn't talk myself out of any CC, I realized I was being selfish and stupid. There are games when I shut it off and say, "You know, that was just plain wrong, and I don;t appreciate what just happened." Were on the same page there.

This particular game, it was self-inflicted. No doubt there.

So, relax, I didn't aim my salvo at you.

When you start a thread that tells everyone you are taking your ball and going home, and are "quitting until the game developers change it back", you are either seeking attention, need to go potty, or are thirteen years old.

That's who I aimed it at. There are more sliders and game adjusters to make the game playable for any style. Folks need to tune the game to their liking, and just have fun, but threatening to stop playing the game....

DSFDF I guess.

~syf

[stealyerface]

Re: This ruined the game (new patch):

Great game last night, as I matched up Porcello and Sanchez in a Roger's Centre matchup.

Last night, I buckled down, and really played in earnest, writing down the Jays lineup, giving myself one look-through at the hit tendencies, cold zones, and basically made fielder's notes for the entire line up.

Trouble was, as good as my defensive game plan may have been, Sanchez had a no-hitter against me through six innings.

Porcello pitched well against the new patch, keeping the Jays off balance until a 2 run homerun by Luke Maile gave the Jays a 2-0 lead going to the sixth.

I tied it up in the top of the eighth with a couple of singles, a pinch runner for slow-footed Leon gave me the lead, and I tacked on one more for a 4-2 lead, and Barnes shut the door for me in the ninth going 1-2-3.

Despite the new patch in my first game showing a livelier ball, and some crazy new backspin, this was a low run affair, and only seven hits allowed between the two teams. I am LOVING the new patch, loving the hit variety, really like the ball flight and diversity between games.

I had at least three occasions where I Extreme Right shifted against high-pull lefty batters, and the balls were smoked into the outfield, but right to Chavis, who easily gobbled them up. Those hits would have easily been singles, but paying attention, and being diligent with my defensing schemes, I stole sure hits, and kept runners off the base paths. No errors for me yesterday, and I have discovered the secret for accurate throws, which is pre-loading, but doing so AFTER your fielder has been moved to his fielding position. Moving the L stick to the left, to field a ground ball at third base, and then Analog Right stick towards first at the same time, results in more off-line throws, than if you are positioned, off the L-stick, and make the accurate R-stick motion to 3 o'clock.

What the livelier ball and backspin update forces you to do, with fielding speed turned way down, is play positional and situational defense. Guard the lines in the late innings, if you are going to Extreme Shift for a lefty, go into the defense screen, and position the third baseman in a regular shift, or if you are pitching a lefty and could forsee a slider sneaking down the third base line, position the 3B on the line, and leave the rest of the infield with an extreme right shift. Being able to position specific fielders to match up the spray charts not only pays big dividends, you give yourself a high five when the ball is hit right to where YOU put your defense.

Stop playing arcade baseball, and start micro-managing for the best chance to win a game.

Love the patch, love the defense... and with Pitch Edits, this is the best offering SDS had ever given us.

~syf

[kinsmen7]

Re: This ruined the game (new patch):

I then immediately went to the OS forum, and Started a big thread about how the new patch sucks, and the comeback code ruined the game, and I'm not playing it until they fix it.... oh wait, no I didn't... because I am not thirteen years old.


~syf

Best comment I've seen here in a long time! So good hahahaha!

You're right though, I hit one at Rogers center last night and the ball flight looked outstanding! I think it's fair for everyone to be a bit reserved when it comes to the patch-work in this game, as there have definitely been some bad ones over the years, but IMO, this one is the best yet.

[nickyb6]

Re: This ruined the game (new patch):

This game is ruined by all these patches. Fielding is worse now, hitting is trash, pitching is ridiculous. SDS needs competition. The fact they need to release this many patches AFTER the game released is bs. That’s why you PLAY TEST the game before release

[kinsmen7]

Re: This ruined the game (new patch):

This game is ruined by all these patches. Fielding is worse now, hitting is trash, pitching is ridiculous. SDS needs competition. The fact they need to release this many patches AFTER the game released is bs. That’s why you PLAY TEST the game before release

I mean, RDR2 has released the same amount of patches, and I'd argue that it's one of the top games that's ever been released...

GTA 5 has released a ton as well. Granted, some of them were additions to the game, but many were to fix issues.

Call of duty black ops 4 has now released 14 patches.

I feel like Madden 19 released over 20 patches.

I'm too lazy to check, but I'd assume that NHL 19 had a ton of patches.

FIFA 19, which came from an outstanding base game, has 12+ patches.

I mean, even the Last of us, when it was remastered and released on PS4, had 9 patches.

What exactly are you experiencing to make you say "fielding is worse now, hitting is trash, pitching is ridiculous"? There are plenty of people on this forum that are experiencing excellent results, so perhaps you could give us some context for this comment.