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  • knich1
    Pro
    • Apr 2017
    • 798

    #16
    Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

    Originally posted by Lilly Of The Valley
    Have ZERO Set-up Men.
    4-MR
    2-LRP
    Put best 2-MR, @ MR slot #1,2.
    They will mow be used properly (Holds).
    Put 3rd best MR @ LRP # 1 Slot.


    Does the SU man get used properly even though not in SU slot?

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    • The Kid 24
      It's Show Time!
      • Jan 2007
      • 14768

      #17
      Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

      Originally posted by Lilly Of The Valley
      2, worst RP in LRP, slots #2 and 3.
      Still a good idea to manage cpu team bull pen usage.
      Also, reduce LRP slot stamina pitchers to have stamina no higher than 30, 35, or 40.
      Originally posted by IrishSalsa
      I will try this when I get home. If this fixes it, then I will be thrilled. Thanks for the tip!!

      Sent from my LG-G710 using Operation Sports mobile app

      Irish bud, have you tried this set up? Curious to hear if fixes things.
      Milwaukee Brewers | Green Bay Packers | North Carolina Tar Heels | Wisconsin Badgers

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      • DarthRambo
        MVP
        • Mar 2008
        • 6631

        #18
        Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

        Originally posted by The Kid 24
        Irish bud, have you tried this set up? Curious to hear if fixes things.
        It did not fix anything that I could notice with the two games I played with that set up.

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        • The Kid 24
          It's Show Time!
          • Jan 2007
          • 14768

          #19
          Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

          Originally posted by IrishSalsa
          It did not fix anything that I could notice with the two games I played with that set up.

          Sent from my LG-G710 using Operation Sports mobile app

          Damnit...................
          Milwaukee Brewers | Green Bay Packers | North Carolina Tar Heels | Wisconsin Badgers

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          • DarthRambo
            MVP
            • Mar 2008
            • 6631

            #20
            Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

            Originally posted by The Kid 24
            Damnit...................
            Yeah it is super frustrating. I only rented the game so for me this was enough to return it with no thought of actually purchasing it now.

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            • JHodges57
              Pro
              • Mar 2019
              • 507

              #21
              Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

              Wouldn't it be nice if they would make it where fatigue would be the priority in choosing a reliever rather than how it is now. Say if the pitcher is 50% fatigued (or whatever number), he sits out unless completely necessary.

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              • The Kid 24
                It's Show Time!
                • Jan 2007
                • 14768

                #22
                Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

                LillyOfTheValley, can you post what you're seeing with the bullpen set up you described?
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                • bravesfan1984
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 2808

                  #23
                  Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

                  So, is this a viable workaround or no?
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                  • delv213
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2015
                    • 47

                    #24
                    Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

                    Originally posted by knich1
                    Does the SU man get used properly even though not in SU slot?

                    The CPU will use the best pitcher available depending if they're significantly better than the rest and other times when that reliever isn't significant it'll use left handed relievers vs left handed hitters or and even matchup a right handed pitcher against a right handed hitter for a single out in an inning.


                    It's actually amazing to see how much they fixed bullpen logic if properly configured but messed up the setup man logic.

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                    • The Kid 24
                      It's Show Time!
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 14768

                      #25
                      Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

                      Originally posted by delv213
                      The CPU will use the best pitcher available depending if they're significantly better than the rest and other times when that reliever isn't significant it'll use left handed relievers vs left handed hitters or and even matchup a right handed pitcher against a right handed hitter for a single out in an inning.


                      It's actually amazing to see how much they fixed bullpen logic if properly configured but messed up the setup man logic.

                      So what Lily posted does work then huh?
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                      • delv213
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2015
                        • 47

                        #26
                        Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

                        Originally posted by The Kid 24
                        So what Lily posted does work then huh?

                        Yeah, I'v been doing this for awhile now after finding out during simulations that the setup pitcher was pitching 18innings a year.

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                        • The Kid 24
                          It's Show Time!
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 14768

                          #27
                          Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

                          Originally posted by delv213
                          Yeah, I'v been doing this for awhile now after finding out during simulations that the setup pitcher was pitching 18innings a year.
                          Awesome! I will be doing this for all teams then.

                          Can you post some of what you've been seeing?
                          Milwaukee Brewers | Green Bay Packers | North Carolina Tar Heels | Wisconsin Badgers

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                          • Aviator87AC
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 389

                            #28
                            Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

                            Originally posted by JHodges57
                            I don't think the tired factor really has as much impact as it should and the confidence factor is really overpowered. I've seen pitchers who are completely tired go 3 innings more without any problems. Confidence was way up though. IMO, I don't care how confident you are, once a person is exhausted, they don't perform as well.
                            Um.. did you even see Max Scherzer's 120+ pitch game the other day? Dude was red-lined and confident af.
                            Born Seattle, live Denver.
                            #gohawks #gorox

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                            • JHodges57
                              Pro
                              • Mar 2019
                              • 507

                              #29
                              Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

                              Originally posted by Aviator87AC
                              Um.. did you even see Max Scherzer's 120+ pitch game the other day? Dude was red-lined and confident af.
                              Some pitchers are quite capable of going more than 100 pitches. It really should not be a one size fits all thing.

                              I never understood the thinking. If a pitcher goes over 100 innings, he should be watched closer next time up, but if he throws less than 100 the difference isn't added to the next start. The entire 100 pitch thing is ridiculous.

                              It was created by Tony LaRussa when he managed the A's and had 1 pitcher that always ran into a brick wall once he hit 100 pitches. Suddenly, every pitcher in MLB had a 100 pitch limit thrown on them.
                              Last edited by JHodges57; 06-07-2019, 09:34 AM.

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                              • FastEd
                                Rookie
                                • Feb 2019
                                • 47

                                #30
                                Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

                                Anyone noticed if this issue has been fixed in patch 1.12?

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