DD rewards for getting to World Series seem too hard

[SmashMan]

Re: DD rewards for getting to World Series seem too hard

It might be the fact that I was a child who grew u in arcades, but I'd give tickets as rewards and have a trade in where you can exchange them for prizes. Maybe getting WS gets you 15 tickets, the price of one of those WS players at the ticket counter, maybe the division below gets you 10 tickets, the division below only 8 etc etc. Maybe you can get a top player for getting into the CS 3 seasons in a row and save up your tickets, that sort of thing. That way, players get incentivized to play RS each season and get as high as they can, while the better players still get the better rewards.

Also gives more ways to incentivize going beyond WS if you get even more tickets for getting into the WS+ divisions.


Not perfect obviously as that took 2 minutes to think of, but there's definitely room for improvement

Hey, at least it's an idea. Don't know if it's something they'd do when they just got rid of the ticket counter though.

[BigOscar]

Re: DD rewards for getting to World Series seem too hard

Hey, at least it's an idea. Don't know if it's something they'd do when they just got rid of the ticket counter though.

Tbf, tickets and ticket counter were just phrases I used for ease of understanding, they could use anything tbh. They always have some variant on it, like last years Musial bobbleheads, this years Topps now tickets etc.

Tbh, I'd be more inclined to just start from scratch, re imagine the entire BR/RS/offline DD modes in general as they are all pretty stale. The programs and the like change each year, but the actual ways we play have stayed the same for a long time now.

Wouldn't say no to a combination of events and seasons, so maybe a silver league, a bronze league, a NL East league etc. Generally I think they've gotten a bit complacent with their game modes within DD

[BIGROC]

Re: DD rewards for getting to World Series seem too hard

As much as people like moaning about participation trophies, I do agree that the way RS tis this year is pretty imbalanced, the rewards between Pennant Race and WS are essentially nothing. WC nets you a gold player, DS nets you a bat skin, CS nets you another gold player, that's pretty rubbish rewards.

Considering that very few players will get to WS, it doesn't really incentivize the vast majority of players to really push and see how high they can get. If you can get WS, terrific, 150k player, if you are a player who never will get to that level, their isn't much reason to play beyond Pennant Race.

For a game that gutted offline play in order to try and force guys online, they could do a better job incentivizing the non-elite players tbh

Does it stick to those parameters? (Silver, fold etc?). I just bought a 20 pack that guarantees a gold player along with the 20 packs... I got a diamond card instead of gold... And got 3 more diamonds (1 was the diamond socks, sold for 15k). But I got Bryce Harper as my 'gold'... The socks, another Bregman (sold) and another Acuna Jr (sold). The only card I kept was Harper...

I really wish that the collection completion got you better cards than a lot do. With the Reds I got a diamond Dave Parker. To do ish off the Yankees it'll be 50k-ish for Chapman, and around 23k for Stanton. Seems like a lot for a 90 Cano card...

But the Jay's 84 Brett Cecil is crap... The dodgers are as expensive as the Yankees, but at least you get a 92 Oral Hershiser... The mid level fold cards shouldn't be the reward for set completion. I got Adrian Gonzalez for the Padres, and a gold Alan Trammel for the Tigers. That should have been the diamond Trammell (94 rated)

[BigOscar]

Re: DD rewards for getting to World Series seem too hard

Does it stick to those parameters? (Silver, fold etc?). I just bought a 20 pack that guarantees a gold player along with the 20 packs... I got a diamond card instead of gold... And got 3 more diamonds (1 was the diamond socks, sold for 15k). But I got Bryce Harper as my 'gold'... The socks, another Bregman (sold) and another Acuna Jr (sold). The only card I kept was Harper...

I really wish that the collection completion got you better cards than a lot do. With the Reds I got a diamond Dave Parker. To do ish off the Yankees it'll be 50k-ish for Chapman, and around 23k for Stanton. Seems like a lot for a 90 Cano card...

But the Jay's 84 Brett Cecil is crap... The dodgers are as expensive as the Yankees, but at least you get a 92 Oral Hershiser... The mid level fold cards shouldn't be the reward for set completion. I got Adrian Gonzalez for the Padres, and a gold Alan Trammel for the Tigers. That should have been the diamond Trammell (94 rated)

Not sure, in the "toppers" you get when you buy a 20 pack, there is a very small chance the gold can instead be a diamond, but when exchanging silvers to get a gold card it's 100% a gold. They don't specify which it is, but odds are it's a gold.

As for the collection rewards, they've been pretty underwhelming for a couple of years now. It used to be that you got a card better than the cards you had to collect, as a real reward for doing it, but now there are very few who are actually worth having, or representative of the expense in acquiring them.

[BIGROC]

Re: DD rewards for getting to World Series seem too hard

Since you felt like making obvious statements i guess i can make one too...Yes, of course, i know that there are other ways to get good players and some can be sold but that is not the point of what im discussing...

The point is that WS is far too hard to achieve for 99% of the player base, and that the rewards for (DD) are simply unbalanced because they are all pretty much useless besides just the WS rewards....

Some of these responses have nothing to do with what im talking about, yes if you want to grind the game non stop you can earn diamond players... So what? Thats not what i was talking about, there should be more ways to get good players in DD without having to achieve something that is incredibly hard and usually coincides with having a top tier team to achieve(hence the rich get richer reference) combined with top tier skill.

These rewards should fluctuate, one season its WS, next season its at a different level, having to get grind to WS every single time is overkill and just fuels the guys who are at the top already constantly getting these rewards.

Im not asking for anything free or out of this planet, just simply stating that maybe its not a bad thing to be able to achieve something worthwhile in DD without having to get the very tippy top level.

If you do the moments you can snag good cards, doing collections adds stubs and XP, and when your XP goes up, the better your cards become. It just sounds like you want a stacked team handed to you without any work. If that's what you want, buy a few 100k stubs and buy the players you want.

This whole "not good enough rewards" thing is pathetic. If you don't want to work to get the cards, then buy them. If you don't want to do that, then you sir are SoL...

[BIGROC]

Re: DD rewards for getting to World Series seem too hard

Not sure, in the "toppers" you get when you buy a 20 pack, there is a very small chance the gold can instead be a diamond, but when exchanging silvers to get a gold card it's 100% a gold. They don't specify which it is, but odds are it's a gold.

As for the collection rewards, they've been pretty underwhelming for a couple of years now. It used to be that you got a card better than the cards you had to collect, as a real reward for doing it, but now there are very few who are actually worth having, or representative of the expense in acquiring them.

I was just really surprised that most of the reward cards for doing the whole team collections were mostly gold cards. There's a few off the top of my head I can think of that are worthwhile... Houston's Mike Scott card, the Yanks Robbie Cano, the Angels Pujols.... But even those are kind of rendered moot since I have a signature series Frank Thomas (99 ovr) playing first....

The one good thing this year, unlike previous years, is that for the most part, you don't need to have a stubs Fort Knox to get most guys. Trout is still like 150k, and the signature series cards (some of them) are over 100k (Whitey Ford is about 17k right now)

I've gotten A LOT of diamonds in packs this year... Still shocked I got Aaron Judge and Jose Altuve in the same pack.... This is the first time since diamond dynasty began that I can field an entire team of diamond players, have my entire rotation be diamonds, and several relief pitchers as diamonds too.

I do like "playing the market" and investing in guys I think I'll get a solid return on. When Bellinger went diamond I made a bundle. I'm betting that the A's closer, Blake Treinen is going to make me some real dough... He's been modded at 87 for a month and a half. Next update, he's gotta go diamond. I bought 6 of his cards... So we will see...

There are some cards I'd like to get (94 ovr Vlad Guerrero Sr, 94 Mattingly) but anything over 50k is iffy. Even when I had enough to buy them both at the same time, I went a different way and bought pack sets, and a few players that could make my squad better in more than one area. I just can't justify spending that amount of stubs on one card.

I will say, finishing the Padres collection, the Adrian Gonzalez card rated 88 is so worth it. I use him to pinch hit mostly, and he will almost always get me an XBH, I mean, he's got around 70 ABs, and he's got 19 homers and his RBI are in the 40s... Not too shabby for a PH.

As for the TC, I've played a ton, and I can field a competitive team in ranked seasons. Seems like you either want things to suit your needs, and not do the leg work. If that's the case, spend cash and buy a team that's stacked. If you don't want to spend cash, your other option is to actually, you know, PLAY the game.

[BIGROC]

Re: DD rewards for getting to World Series seem too hard

As long as you move up a tier, you'll stay there. Like I got to all-star last "season". So I'm starting in the 400 point bracket, in all-star. You don't get reset to spring training every time the season changes...

[JoshC1977]

Re: DD rewards for getting to World Series seem too hard

Thats not what i was talking about, there should be more ways to get good players in DD without having to achieve something that is incredibly hard and usually coincides with having a top tier team to achieve(hence the rich get richer reference) combined with top tier skill.

WS rewards ARE hard to get and they should be. It takes a lot of time, patience and skill to get there. If you aren't willing to do that, you shouldn't get the reward. BUT the game makes it so easy for everyone that even if you suck or don't play online, you can STILL get the reward by getting it off the market (and there are tons of EASY ways to earn stubs without even spending money). On top of that, WS rewards comprise only a small handful of guys (and not all of them are great)....and there are TONS of high end diamonds who weren't even WS rewards.

On top of that, many of the top cards in the game (XP rewards) literally take NO SKILL to acquire. You can play on rookie and make it nice and easy for you.

Team affinity cards literally take NO SKILL to acquire....just rack up innings (win or lose)...and quite a few of them are quite good (Saberhagen, Sutton, Reyes, Cueto, Gibson, Fingers, ....even without those 99 overalls). You could probably build a pretty darn good team using just cards from the Team Affinity missions.

Some of the collection rewards are insanely good (like Lofton for the Indians...which has never been cheaper than it is now). Again....tons of EASY ways to earn stubs without spending cash.

But to expect stuff for 'free', not happening. Be prepared to spend time (playing the game...even on rookie) or money. You still have to EARN your rewards.