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  • BIGROC
    Pro
    • Aug 2003
    • 766

    #1

    Opener patch in the future?

    I am NOT a fan of "the opener", but it's become a thing that teams are doing now. Wondering if SDS has any plans to out that option in this years game with a future patch, or if it's something they they'll add in to The Show 20....

    Anyone hear anything about this?
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  • Caulfield
    Hall Of Fame
    • Apr 2011
    • 10986

    #2
    Re: Opener patch in the future?

    haven't heard any speculation , so , just a guess , but I'm betting a solid no on the patch and a soft no on 20 .
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    • OneTonneBaby
      Rookie
      • Apr 2012
      • 170

      #3
      Re: Opener patch in the future?

      Guessing it won't go in as you can do it now by just starting someone from the bullpen. It messes with the automatic starter it picks from your rotation but its not a huge deal.

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      • BIGROC
        Pro
        • Aug 2003
        • 766

        #4
        Re: Opener patch in the future?

        Originally posted by OneTonneBaby
        Guessing it won't go in as you can do it now by just starting someone from the bullpen. It messes with the automatic starter it picks from your rotation but its not a huge deal.
        I knew you could kind of do it in franchise, but in other modes it's not really an option. I know in DD and MtO you can't warm up a starter after having a relief pitcher begin the game. I wasn't even sure you were able to warm the starter up in franchise if you "open" with a RP.
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        • brunopuntzjones
          Pro
          • Jul 2018
          • 651

          #5
          Re: Opener patch in the future?

          Originally posted by BIGROC
          I knew you could kind of do it in franchise, but in other modes it's not really an option. I know in DD and MtO you can't warm up a starter after having a relief pitcher begin the game. I wasn't even sure you were able to warm the starter up in franchise if you "open" with a RP.
          I don’t think you can if they’re in the rotation, but you can move them to the bullpen before the game and warm them up from there.

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          • countryboy
            Growing pains
            • Sep 2003
            • 52720

            #6
            Re: Opener patch in the future?

            Originally posted by brunopuntzjones
            I don’t think you can if they’re in the rotation, but you can move them to the bullpen before the game and warm them up from there.
            In franchise you can bring in a starter from the bullpen. Just press R1 to cycle from bullpen to rotation.
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            • BIGROC
              Pro
              • Aug 2003
              • 766

              #7
              Re: Opener patch in the future?

              Originally posted by countryboy
              In franchise you can bring in a starter from the bullpen. Just press R1 to cycle from bullpen to rotation.
              I wish they'd add that into the DD ranked seasons. Burning through the bullpen can happen in games and then you're stuck with a ragged arm for three innings until you win, or your pitcher serves up a meatball because of exhaustion.
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              • brunopuntzjones
                Pro
                • Jul 2018
                • 651

                #8
                Re: Opener patch in the future?

                Originally posted by BIGROC
                I wish they'd add that into the DD ranked seasons. Burning through the bullpen can happen in games and then you're stuck with a ragged arm for three innings until you win, or your pitcher serves up a meatball because of exhaustion.
                Unless they add in starter fatigue (even if only for appearances from the bullpen) this would just be abused by people bringing in their best starter after 1 AB.

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                • JHodges57
                  Pro
                  • Mar 2019
                  • 507

                  #9
                  Re: Opener patch in the future?

                  Who knows. It's probably a real short phase MLB is going through, just like pitchers batting 8th. To me it's really stupid since you're going to be bringing in a starter anyway, but managers these days try all kind of weird stuff which ends off making no difference in any advantage they get.

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                  • kehlis
                    Moderator
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 27738

                    #10
                    Re: Opener patch in the future?

                    Originally posted by OneTonneBaby
                    Guessing it won't go in as you can do it now by just starting someone from the bullpen. It messes with the automatic starter it picks from your rotation but its not a huge deal.
                    Just one call out that needs to made, even if we can do it ourselves, if it isn't something that is "put in" as an official spot, we would never see the CPU do it as well.

                    Wouldn't matter to me, or probably most, but would matter to some.

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                    • Caulfield
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 10986

                      #11
                      Re: Opener patch in the future?

                      Originally posted by JHodges57
                      Who knows. It's probably a real short phase MLB is going through, just like pitchers batting 8th. To me it's really stupid since you're going to be bringing in a starter anyway, but managers these days try all kind of weird stuff which ends off making no difference in any advantage they get.
                      I'm not sold on using an opener in the Show but if hitting is timing and pitching is upsetting timing then it might hang around for awhile, even if its only a couple teams doing it. if every team did it, I dont think it would be successful at all. if I did decide to use it in the Show, it would be spring training only
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                      • bacon96
                        Bacon's Fictional Roster
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 1963

                        #12
                        Re: Opener patch in the future?

                        I'd like to see some sort of a manager strategy, personality or ideals for every team. So Kevin Cash would have opener as one of his ideals and someone like Craig Counsell would have quick manager hook as part of his strategy.

                        This would go a long way in terms of differing teams from other teams and managers from others.
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                        • lemarflacco
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2018
                          • 1001

                          #13
                          Re: Opener patch in the future?

                          Originally posted by bacon96
                          I'd like to see some sort of a manager strategy, personality or ideals for every team. So Kevin Cash would have opener as one of his ideals and someone like Craig Counsell would have quick manager hook as part of his strategy.

                          This would go a long way in terms of differing teams from other teams and managers from others.
                          I love this idea. And different lineup structures too. Some manager put their best hitter in the 2 spot, some might prefer there best hitter leadoff as opposed to the fastest person.



                          Originally posted by Caulfield
                          I'm not sold on using an opener in the Show but if hitting is timing and pitching is upsetting timing then it might hang around for awhile, even if its only a couple teams doing it. if every team did it, I dont think it would be successful at all. if I did decide to use it in the Show, it would be spring training only


                          I didnt get it at first either. I think the idea is (hypothetical) you open with a righty... They play their lineup with a bunch of Left handed hitters in the lineup and then boom, you get your bulk innings LHP, who would be a starter, to face a bunch of their left handed hitters.

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                          • bacon96
                            Bacon's Fictional Roster
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 1963

                            #14
                            Re: Opener patch in the future?

                            [QUOTE=lemarflacco;2049932710]I love this idea. And different lineup structures too. Some manager put their best hitter in the 2 spot, some might prefer there best hitter leadoff as opposed to the fastest person.

                            They actually already have a touch of this in the game so they've already taken the first step. Joe Maddon batting his pitcher 8th is consistent if he manages a different team.
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                            • sacbillsfan
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 154

                              #15
                              Re: Opener patch in the future?

                              Originally posted by JHodges57
                              Who knows. It's probably a real short phase MLB is going through, just like pitchers batting 8th. To me it's really stupid since you're going to be bringing in a starter anyway, but managers these days try all kind of weird stuff which ends off making no difference in any advantage they get.
                              It's absolutely not a short phase. This is where the game is going and it will only become more common. Pitchers in the minors are now being developed through piggy back starts and that won't magically change once they make the big leagues. It also is absolutely an advantage when you have a good bullpen.

                              I'm honestly hoping this is one thing that's incorporated in 2020 but I can already see the "it's their first year with the console" posts.

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