The commentary needs to focus on other stats

[ninertravel]

Does everyone find it as frustrating as me that the commentators are always talking about AVG and ERA? and deciding if a player is going good or bad based on that? I understand it's a 'video game' stat.for the casual. but whip OBP, or OPS even WAR is now the more popular analytics stats that are talked about.

I am just so sick of the starting pitcher when he warms up they crap on about how good he has been going or struggling based off his ERA, it would be just nice to hear them say 'his AVG is low better never mind that look at his OBP he gets on base.. or "his ERA is high look at his whip I am sure his luck will turn around'

EDIT
can a mod please change to title from 'another' to 'other' haha I must have been half asleep when writing that.

[Caulfield]

Re: The commentary needs to focus on another stats

I'm to the point I can only play with commentary ON for about a fifth of games. silence (from the booth) is golden. nothing against Vasgersian, its not him, its the script writing. thankfully its not a big deal for me to play with commentary OFF. when I go to a ballgame I dont need constant running commentary to tell me what my eyes are already telling me, be it baseball football or a movie theatre lol. if ever a day comes where a video games commentary is as different from game to game as a television broadcast I'll reconsider upping my games with commentary ON. dont see that happening in the next 10-20 years TBH if even after that.

but yeah, better script writing please, Sony.

[jeffy777]

Re: The commentary needs to focus on another stats

I agree. Sadly the majority of real life commentators still focus on AVG as well, though they are slowly adapting, some more than others.

[Armor and Sword]

Re: The commentary needs to focus on another stats

I agree. Sadly the majority of real life commentators still focus on AVG as well, though they are slowly adapting, some more than others.

OBP and OPS are the mother of all batting statistics in my book.


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[reyes the roof]

Re: The commentary needs to focus on another stats

I like avg, era, rbis, etc and I still have no clue what WAR is. I also yell at people to get off my lawn

[bravesfan1984]

Re: The commentary needs to focus on another stats

I would like to see wRC+ and FIP talked about, in addition to OBP and OPS

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[Armor and Sword]

Re: The commentary needs to focus on another stats

I like avg, era, rbis, etc and I still have no clue what WAR is. I also yell at people to get off my lawn

Wins Above Replacement.

A high WAR number means with this player in the lineup, he helps the team win this many more additional games (to the expected number of wins) compared to if he was out of the lineup.

Top 10 all time position (non pitchers) WAR players:

1. Barry Bonds

2. Babe Ruth

3. Willie Mays

4. Ty Cobb

5. Hank Aaron

6. Tris Speaker

7. Honus Wagner

8. Stan Musial

9. Rogers Horsnby

10. Eddie Collins

It is a saber metric stat.

Again to me......when it comes to baseball give me OBP and OPS for hitting, Fielding % and Runs saved

That can tell you in a statistical manner how good a player is IMO.

But nothing can beat seeing them play, interacting with them and how the carry themselves, how they can lead their team, what kind of team mate they are, how they handle failure, do they make other players around them that much better etc.

[reyes the roof]

Re: The commentary needs to focus on another stats

Wins Above Replacement.

A high WAR number means with this player in the lineup, he helps the team win this many more additional games (to the expected number of wins) compared to if he was out of the lineup.

Top 10 all time position (non pitchers) WAR players:

1. Barry Bonds

2. Babe Ruth

3. Willie Mays

4. Ty Cobb

5. Hank Aaron

6. Tris Speaker

7. Honus Wagner

8. Stan Musial

9. Rogers Horsnby

10. Eddie Collins

It is a saber metric stat.

Again to me......when it comes to baseball give me OBP and OPS for hitting, Fielding % and Runs saved

That can tell you in a statistical manner how good a player is IMO.

But nothing can beat seeing them play, interacting with them and how the carry themselves, how they can lead their team, what kind of team mate they are, how they handle failure, do they make other players around them that much better etc.

I’d need to understand how it’s calculated for me to embrace WAR. I can’t wrap my head around how you can quantify someone’s value to the team with a number when there are so many moving parts

[ChaseB]

Re: The commentary needs to focus on other stats

Fixed the title for you bb.

[JTommy67]

Re: The commentary needs to focus on other stats

TIP: Play most of your games with commentary turned off. Then turn it on for special games (important games, playoffs, etc...)


The commentary won't be as stale and you'll be less concerned about variability.

[TheWarmWind]

Re: The commentary needs to focus on other stats

OBP and WHIP are my big two. If those are too close to make a roster decision on, runs created, power/speed, fielding percentage for batters.

I'll go with gut instinct for pitchers, especially when it comes to MLB level decisions. How well I jive with the pitcher is important.

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[jada855]

Re: The commentary needs to focus on other stats

Got to agree especially when it was hyped for MLB 19 and 20 that the commentary would also highlight Player Lock and CAP players. One of the reasons I purchased MLB 19.

But it was incredibly stale and broken certain lines only happened when you used the Player Locked direct option compared to actually playing a full game and then using the Player Lock option.

I broke the Stolen Base record and heard nothing about in my following season or that I was traded. It only mentioned that I was a all star several times the following year! And definitely a lack of excitement in the announcers especially in the PlayOffs and the World Series games.


I wish it somehow worked as intended unfortunately after a number of games I have once again used the option to turn it off.

[Caulfield]

Re: The commentary needs to focus on another stats

I like avg, era, rbis, etc and I still have no clue what WAR is. I also yell at people to get off my lawn

yeah,with all the information available, there is just no reason to look at just one 'be all end all' stat. I like to take in as many as I can stand and get a clearer big picture. if you're trying to look at a players worth based on a couple stats, it's easy to miss what his weakness is that way. So the more of stats, whichever they may be, they put on screen so I dont have to listen to commentary, the better.


*slowly backs off lawn*

[Red_Ted_is_back]

Re: The commentary needs to focus on other stats

To those people referring to limited stats being mentioned in the commentary, are you playing save files carried over from many iterations of the game?

The reason I ask is that I was never hearing batter vs pitcher stats while playing my 16 carryover file in 18, then I started a new franchise save file and started hearing them.

So all the references to WHIP, SLUG, OBP and possibly others that the commentators mention regularly you may be missing out on if you have a franchise started many years ago.


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[JoshC1977]

Re: The commentary needs to focus on other stats

BA and ERA are less precise measures of performance but players also win batting titles because of BA. For a game to not talk about these would just be odd because of that deep historical connection.

That said, I do think more advanced statistical measures need to be discussed. But, if they're going to talk about "advanced" stats, they need to be stats that people can have an intuitive feel for. For good in-game commentary, stats need to not only tell you HOW good a player is, but also give you an understanding of WHO a player is.

Saying that a player is at 0.5 WAR doesn't tell me anything about that player (other than...he's been ok-ish?). If I see an OBP/OPS of .300/.800 vs .375/.800 for a given player, that tells me more (the first player has been more free-swinging but hits for power vs the second who gets on base well with little pop). WHIP isn't really new or advanced, but it is a good one to pair with ERA (the two together DO quickly tell a story....a 3.00 ERA with 1.50 WHIP guy has been incredibly lucky; 4.50/0.98 has not).

I enjoy looking at advanced stats for real games (could care less in video games) and would love for stats like FIP to be more mainstream. BUT...my "take" is this, if the average baseball fan has to look up the calculation, it shouldn't be discussed in-game (real life or in MLB:TS).