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  • KnightTemplar
    MVP
    • Feb 2017
    • 3282

    #106
    Re: Manage mode players

    Ugh! AI ruined a great game. A 13 inning affair tied 3-3. Ran out of pinch hitters, was able to coax walks on 3-1 pitches, withstood a couple errors, just a bunch of good stuff. Then in the bottom of the 13th CPU gets runners on 1st and 3rd with NOBODY out. Time to manage:

    Pulled my infield in
    pulled my OF to shallow
    did not walk the bases full because I didn’t want to face the next batter in
    that situation.

    ready to go. Grounder to third, runner breaks for home and my damned 3rd basemen goes for the 5-4-3 double play. Groan.

    My buddy has had the same thing happen to him in a game, so maybe it’s a glitch, but it sure was a bummer being as the game had a little of everything.

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    • forme95
      MVP
      • Nov 2013
      • 3118

      #107
      Re: Manage mode players

      It's not a glitch. I have yet to have the ball thrown home whether I've brought the infield on or not. It's like it's programmed to concede the run to get the out(s) no matter the situation. Just a product of the game unfortunately

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      • KnightTemplar
        MVP
        • Feb 2017
        • 3282

        #108
        Re: Manage mode players

        Originally posted by forme95
        It's not a glitch. I have yet to have the ball thrown home whether I've brought the infield on or not. It's like it's programmed to concede the run to get the out(s) no matter the situation. Just a product of the game unfortunately

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        Has anyone done a bug report?

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        • forme95
          MVP
          • Nov 2013
          • 3118

          #109
          Re: Manage mode players

          Originally posted by KnightTemplar
          Has anyone done a bug report?
          Only way it's getting fixed is if DD guys complain about it. Since they do manual fielding, it's not going to happen.

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          Really wish sports games played to ratings!
          Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
          CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
          MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
          Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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          • KnightTemplar
            MVP
            • Feb 2017
            • 3282

            #110
            Re: Manage mode players

            So, lets say i would have walked the bases full. My 3rd baseman would still try to pull off a 5-4-3 instead of a home to 1st DP?

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            • JHodges57
              Pro
              • Mar 2019
              • 507

              #111
              Re: Manage mode players

              Originally posted by KnightTemplar
              So, lets say i would have walked the bases full. My 3rd baseman would still try to pull off a 5-4-3 instead of a home to 1st DP?

              I have occassionally seen throws to home then first.

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              • KnightTemplar
                MVP
                • Feb 2017
                • 3282

                #112
                Re: Manage mode players

                My buddy has had two freezes, both times the catcher stands there with the ball and won’t throw it back to the pitcher. All the options are locked, so he can’t, for example, sim his way forward to get out of the freeze. Any other solutions besides cleaning the disk?

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                • forme95
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2013
                  • 3118

                  #113
                  Re: Manage mode players

                  Just checking in. Everyone still seeing in game injuries?

                  Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
                  Really wish sports games played to ratings!
                  Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
                  CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
                  MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
                  Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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                  • forme95
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 3118

                    #114
                    Re: Manage mode players

                    Originally posted by KnightTemplar
                    My buddy has had two freezes, both times the catcher stands there with the ball and won’t throw it back to the pitcher. All the options are locked, so he can’t, for example, sim his way forward to get out of the freeze. Any other solutions besides cleaning the disk?
                    I haven't seen any freeze issues ever. I have a digital copy so idk if that makes a difference.

                    Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
                    Really wish sports games played to ratings!
                    Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
                    CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
                    MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
                    Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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                    • forme95
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 3118

                      #115
                      Re: Manage mode players

                      Starting to have a few concerns.
                      1) injuries? I've had a few pitchers get injured CPU, but haven't seen injuries on my team lately.

                      2) my guys chasing obvious ball 4's. Even Carlos Santana who I'm constantly reminded about having the best on base % and how he rarely swings and misses. Simmed a season testing something and he had 94 BB and 78 SO. Now he (as well as others) chase ball 4 while the CPU knows to hold off on barely outside the zone balls. Just as an example

                      Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
                      Really wish sports games played to ratings!
                      Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
                      CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
                      MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
                      Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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                      • JHodges57
                        Pro
                        • Mar 2019
                        • 507

                        #116
                        Re: Manage mode players

                        Originally posted by forme95
                        Starting to have a few concerns.
                        1) injuries? I've had a few pitchers get injured CPU, but haven't seen injuries on my team lately.

                        2) my guys chasing obvious ball 4's. Even Carlos Santana who I'm constantly reminded about having the best on base % and how he rarely swings and misses. Simmed a season testing something and he had 94 BB and 78 SO. Now he (as well as others) chase ball 4 while the CPU knows to hold off on barely outside the zone balls. Just as an example

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                        I've seen so much of the players on both my teams, Astros and Dodgers, watching 3rd strikes over the heart of the plate (then turn and say something to the ump) but will strikeout swinging at balls way out of the strike zone. In fact, yesterday, one player swung and missed at a pitch that just about hit him in the head, that's how far out of the zone it was. But they continually watch pitches totally in the strike zone, no matter what the count, and that's the part that annoys me while I watch them swinging at pitches that started out of the strike zone when it left the pitchers hand and was farther out by the time it reached the plate.

                        Another thing I've seen a lot is my batters swinging at a pitch that hit the dirt and was already in the catcher's mitt when they swung. The animation is really weird on that one. I just assume the strikeout was predetermined by the game.

                        The swing logic is pretty weird. I've tried to find some rhyme or reason but I'm stumped.

                        I tried experimenting with umpires, using all 3 settings for how umpires call the game but it didn't matter whether I had it set for each umpire's personality or it was set to calling the game perfect, so that destryoed the theory I had on that.
                        Last edited by JHodges57; 07-10-2020, 07:52 AM.

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                        • tabarnes19_SDS
                          Game Designer
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 3084

                          #117
                          Re: Manage mode players

                          Originally posted by forme95
                          Starting to have a few concerns.
                          1) injuries? I've had a few pitchers get injured CPU, but haven't seen injuries on my team lately.

                          2) my guys chasing obvious ball 4's. Even Carlos Santana who I'm constantly reminded about having the best on base % and how he rarely swings and misses. Simmed a season testing something and he had 94 BB and 78 SO. Now he (as well as others) chase ball 4 while the CPU knows to hold off on barely outside the zone balls. Just as an example

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                          I have not had an injury on a played game in a long time. I'm in year 2. Year 1 I had a fair share. I even have the sliders maxed.

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                          • shawn306
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 115

                            #118
                            Re: Manage mode players

                            Originally posted by forme95
                            Starting to have a few concerns.
                            1) injuries? I've had a few pitchers get injured CPU, but haven't seen injuries on my team lately.

                            2) my guys chasing obvious ball 4's. Even Carlos Santana who I'm constantly reminded about having the best on base % and how he rarely swings and misses. Simmed a season testing something and he had 94 BB and 78 SO. Now he (as well as others) chase ball 4 while the CPU knows to hold off on barely outside the zone balls. Just as an example

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                            Not as much as before. I think I have had three in-game injuries since the new patch. Two in one game and Christian Vazquez tore his achillies. I have had no Yankee injuries (The team I am managing) since the patch. (One pre-game injury to Andujar who missed a few games.

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                            • forme95
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 3118

                              #119
                              Re: Manage mode players

                              To try and curve the pitch per innings and pitch per at bat, I'm going to try lowering FF to 2 and see how it plays. I'll report back later. Going to try to get at least 7-10 games in

                              Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
                              Really wish sports games played to ratings!
                              Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
                              CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
                              MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
                              Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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                              • forme95
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2013
                                • 3118

                                #120
                                Re: Manage mode players

                                Originally posted by forme95
                                To try and curve the pitch per innings and pitch per at bat, I'm going to try lowering FF to 2 and see how it plays. I'll report back later. Going to try to get at least 7-10 games in

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                                Short analysis, fouls are cut down, strike out and BB are up as well as added offense for both sides. The battle so to say is gone. Still some high pitch innings. I'm 50/50 on the change. At bats don't feel wasted, and I don't mind the increase in BB and SO, I just don't know yet if it's "better baseball". Idk if it's bc I am using a different team, but hbp is way up. My team has avg 2 per game, twice by the same pitcher.

                                In my honest opinion, I think it is the AI. Idk if there is any way to curve it without damaging something else or constantly moving sliders which I will not do.
                                Every game is programmed to have a "big" inning or two, two or three quick innings and rest of 15-18 pitch innings.

                                On a side note, single team control seems to have more injuries, I've seen 3 in game injuries thus far

                                Overall I will say, lowering the FF eliminates the battle between pitcher and batter. Everything is clearer. Battles are minor, hits, SO, BB, and so for forth are clearer. Give it a try, 5 games at least. It's definitely a didn't game.

                                Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
                                Really wish sports games played to ratings!
                                Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
                                CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
                                MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
                                Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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