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  • kingmason13
    Rookie
    • Mar 2013
    • 270

    #31
    Re: What happened?! WAYYY to many HRs.

    Doing a franchise with my Rays and Zunino and Renfro have 13 jacks a piece and it’s not even May yet smh


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    • King Gro23
      MVP
      • Jan 2008
      • 2548

      #32
      Re: What happened?! WAYYY to many HRs.

      Thank you for saying this!
      Originally posted by cusefan74
      This isn't hard guys, just adjust the timing and solid hits sliders for human and the ai and you see a big difference in homeruns. I'm playing on allstar and went from seeing 6-7 homeruns a game to seeing 1-3 or none a couple of times.
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      • ninertravel
        MVP
        • Aug 2015
        • 4833

        #33
        Re: What happened?! WAYYY to many HRs.

        Originally posted by knich
        Did you do this for both HUM and CPU? What difficulty? And are you still getting good hit variety, including P/P?
        HOF

        Yes for both I had my first 1-0 game with it and had a 6-2 game which seen homer’s and a 2-1 game so I’ve had variety. Before this I had 11-6 games to the point where I wasn’t excited about getting a hone run lol

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        • Chad211
          Rookie
          • Jun 2015
          • 155

          #34
          Re: What happened?! WAYYY to many HRs.

          Originally posted by El_MaYiMbE
          There seems to be too many HRs, at least when compared to the percentage of runs being scored via the HR...I think that is the real issue.

          The hits per game, strike out per game, walks per game, even runs per games....feel right.
          However, too many of my runs (and the CPUs) are coming off the HR.

          What I think the issue is that the Perfect/Perfect, Squared-up, and Good hits are all being rewarded with HR results too often. These contact types should result in more hard-liners, gappers, and hard-ground balls more often than they currently are. I have even seen a handful of Perfect/Perfect Flyballs with "non-power hitters" be hit for no doubt HRs on balls down in the zone. This contradicts two things we were told on the SDS Streams:

          1. Non-Power Hitters should NOT try to hit Perfect/Perfect Flyballs, because they do not have enough power to drive the pitch out of the park (for the most part) despite the perfect swing. They should be aiming for Perfect/Perfect Linedrives or Perfect/Perfect Grounders.

          2. If I time a pitch in lower part of the zone with Perfect/Perfect Swing, shouldn't it have generated a Perfect/Perfect Groundball (or at best Linedrive)...regardless of who was hitting, but especially considering the hitter had mid-50's power, contact and vision? Would that not be his wheelhouse and his optimal outcome?

          This to me is the biggest piece of evidence, that proves that the reward system for the different hit types is tipped in "HR outcome's" favor when the player makes Good or better contact.

          If SDS can fix that, we will see more hit variety and more runs coming off Perfect/Perfect, Squared-Up, and Good: singles, doubles, triples instead of....90% of those runs coming via HRs. The hit reward system simply needs to be recalibrated.
          I agree with you on home runs for sure. I don’t see enough different types of hits going around non power hitters seem to not connect enough or really get much off a power swing. Power hitters seem to generate most of my offense this year.

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          • JHodges57
            Pro
            • Mar 2019
            • 507

            #35
            Re: What happened?! WAYYY to many HRs.

            Possible problem with adjusting them down is scoring will drop. Back to that constant feed of 1-0, 2-1, 3-1 games in franchise MoM games.

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            • tgreer
              Pro
              • Mar 2005
              • 565

              #36
              Re: What happened?! WAYYY to many HRs.

              I play MOM so all I do is test CPU vs CPU to adjust my slider likings. One thing I noticed from the start was the wind was blowing out EVERY game. Through Day 1 (15 games) there were 59 HR (1.97 Avg/Team compared to 1.40 in real MLB last year).

              First test I ran was Power down to 4 and ran the same 15 games. This came up with 30 HR (1.00/Team). Seemed a little low

              The next 15 game test I did I put power back to Default and WIND at 0. It came back with a 1.47/Team rate vs 1.40 real MLB 2019

              Still a little too high for my liking but I am going to roll through 75 games and get all the Rotation Spots a start this way and check out the results. But so far its the best results I have seen so far without diminishing the offense too much

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              • buggs1a
                Rookie
                • Aug 2004
                • 246

                #37
                Re: What happened?! WAYYY to many HRs.

                I don't think there's too many hr. I sometimes got up to 6 in one game in 19. I loaded my 19 save in 20 and it's way down and using same sliders.

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                • knich
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2005
                  • 1116

                  #38
                  Re: What happened?! WAYYY to many HRs.

                  Originally posted by ninertravel
                  HOF

                  Yes for both I had my first 1-0 game with it and had a 6-2 game which seen homer’s and a 2-1 game so I’ve had variety. Before this I had 11-6 games to the point where I wasn’t excited about getting a hone run lol
                  This is exactly how I feel. I don't want the HRs muted but it is getting tiresome when both teams are hitting HRs at faster rate than juiced ball era. Played Yanks v. A's last night. They had a combined 11 HRs thru 8 innings. This was AFTER I bumped up pitch consistency on HOF and did everything I could to throw balls far outside the zone and they kept ended up over the middle of the plate...regardless of who was pitching. The biggest problem was even the hitters with 45/45 where crushing HRs...not just occasionally either. I expect there will be some meat pitches even with Ace pitchers but they are simply too frequent. I simmed the 9th because it wasn't realistic and thus not fun.

                  I will try your settings. The other problems I was seeing are rocket bunts (I think I have hit only 1 bunt that didn't get past pitcher's mound) and too many HUM infield throwing errors on AF. I have the infield error sliders down to 2 which has reduced the number of errors to two a game (usually 1/game occurs with pretty good/great SS) but now the CPU doesn't commit ANY errors...ugh. There need to be separate sliders for HUM/CPU errors. Thanks.

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                  • knich
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 1116

                    #39
                    Re: What happened?! WAYYY to many HRs.

                    Originally posted by buggs1a
                    I don't think there's too many hr. I sometimes got up to 6 in one game in 19. I loaded my 19 save in 20 and it's way down and using same sliders.
                    The problem is not the number of HRs in one game...in fact it is fun if your team or opposing team has a great HR day. But not EVERYDAY.

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                    • tessl
                      All Star
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 5683

                      #40
                      Re: What happened?! WAYYY to many HRs.

                      Small sample size but in manage mode I'm seeing more home runs than in mlbts 19 but not the excessive numbers others are reporting.

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                      • buggs1a
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 246

                        #41
                        Re: What happened?! WAYYY to many HRs.

                        Originally posted by knich
                        The problem is not the number of HRs in one game...in fact it is fun if your team or opposing team has a great HR day. But not EVERYDAY.
                        I get 3 to 6 in some games in 19 yes. But honestly that should be most games. I miss spoke. But, my power slider is a few tricks below max so its expected. Contact is midway or so to somewhat offset the high power slider. I like hrs and get frustrated when I dont hit any. I dont mind once in a while getting very few.

                        In 20 I imported my 19 save chise. And I imported sliders too. Way less hr in 20. Frustrated big time 😇

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                        • countryboy
                          Growing pains
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 52723

                          #42
                          Re: What happened?! WAYYY to many HRs.

                          I do think that solid contact is too easily achieved currently, but I still haven't made a change because when I looked at the stats, I've hit 15 homeruns in 10 spring training games. And over half of those came in two games versus the Astros at Shippett Stadium. The ball really carries in that park for some reason.

                          Other than that, I don't see an excessive amount of homeruns. I've played 2 games now that had zero homeruns.

                          I'm going to keep rolling with default and see how things look over the course of Spring.

                          The leader in homeruns by the way is the Dodgers with 18 thru 9 games.

                          The is a carryover save on default Legend using zone hitting.

                          Additional stat, I've given up 18 homeruns thru 10 games. That is again default Legend using meter pitching.
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                          • DallasRocks
                            MVP
                            • Jan 2005
                            • 1625

                            #43
                            Re: What happened?! WAYYY to many HRs.

                            Lowered power and solid contact 2 notches for both me and the cpu... seemed to have solved it
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                            • misterkrabz2
                              Rookie
                              • Jan 2020
                              • 73

                              #44
                              Re: What happened?! WAYYY to many HRs.

                              I think part of the problem is when you miss your pitching meter, it doesn't seem to locate the ball in relationship to where you missed the meter, it throws it right down the middle, way more often than not. Or it's wildly outside the strike zone. There doesn't seem to be much "in between". Another thing I noticed is pitches are not being called strikes that are right on the edge of the box. I'm throwing pitches that are literally right on the edge of the strike zone where the ball is halfway in and halfway out of the strike zone and they're balls. And that really puts the pressure on the pitching..more pitches, more chances of me missing the meter and boom....back to back to back HRs. I'll be humming along for 4 or 5 or 6 innings then boom, give up 6 runs and can't buy an out....everything falls in or is lashed. In two back to back DD games, I gave up 24 runs, all in 3 of the 18 innings. The rest were 0's. It's weird, and doesn't feel right.

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                              • monk31
                                Rookie
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 276

                                #45
                                What happened?! WAYYY to many HRs.

                                Im seeing the same thing. Really too much offense in general.

                                I’m five games into my franchise, going 4-1. With some crazy stats. I’m already playing on Legend difficulty with default sliders.

                                18-6 W
                                10-5 W
                                11-7 W
                                2-8 L
                                14-3 W

                                Team Avg: .351
                                55 runs ( 11.0 /gm)
                                16 doubles ( 3.2 /gm)
                                21 HRs ( 4.2 /gm)
                                18 BBs (3.6 /gm)
                                30 SO’s (6.0 /gm)
                                Slugging: .764
                                OBP: .411



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                                Last edited by monk31; 03-21-2020, 02:19 PM.

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