MLB The Show 20: Detailing the Current Fielding Issues (Breakdown and Analysis) - Part Two

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  • BigOscar
    MVP
    • May 2016
    • 2971

    #16
    Re: MLB The Show 20: Detailing the Current Fielding Issues (Breakdown and Analysis) -

    I am at the point where I don't dare try and get a good run up for a throw and instead just try and camp right underneath it, as you just can't trust the catch and throw animation to trigger consistently. It's maybe 50/50 on whether they will do that, or instead either just decide to catch the ball on the bounce, or just miss it altogether as part of some awkward falling over reaching animation.

    It's the worst outfielding has been on a Show game that I can recall, it needs sorting ASAP as otherwise the game is pretty much forcing you to play with auto-fielding, or be at a massive disadvantage

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    • ChaseB
      #BringBackFaceuary
      • Oct 2003
      • 9844

      #17
      Re: MLB The Show 20: Detailing the Current Fielding Issues (Breakdown and Analysis) -

      Originally posted by tessl
      I didn't watch every video but it appears to be user controlled issues.* I am seeing none of this in manage mode.**

      You may be blaming the developers for your own human error.
      No. I even go out of my way to explain what is user error within the videos and what's the game just not recognizing where you are in relation to the ball. We do agree that there is user pathing or something along those lines that is throwing off the systems in place, but it's not user error that should be blamed here on the whole.
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      • jada855
        Pro
        • Aug 2013
        • 942

        #18
        Re: MLB The Show 20: Detailing the Current Fielding Issues (Breakdown and Analysis) -

        This just makes me SAD! After reading Parts 1 and 2 and so many iterations of this game that are on my PS4! The problem is the foundation and fundamentals missing on defense

        Also I play offline and the fielding issues are equally as great or greater! Especially if you play a infield position and cannot make a tag on the CPU with a close play as shown in the article.

        I hate to say it but this article should have been used in the review of MLB The Show and finally paints a clear picture
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        • Qb
          All Star
          • Mar 2003
          • 8797

          #19
          Re: MLB The Show 20: Detailing the Current Fielding Issues (Breakdown and Analysis) -

          Not quite the same as what's being discussed, but what's up with the CPU's insistence on going to 2nd for force outs? It's an issue on sac bunts, but I'm also seeing it on non-routine grounders where it's not the easier/safer play. Multiple times seeing the 2B going towards first spin for an awkward throw to second. Even saw a 3B a step of two from the bag in a two-out bases loaded situation gun it to 2nd and barely get the runner. I get that some of these situations present a reward (lead runner, double play), but too many are too risky (runners often safe) or flat out don't make any sense (two outs, tougher play).

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          • Padgoi
            Banned
            • Oct 2008
            • 1873

            #20
            Re: MLB The Show 20: Detailing the Current Fielding Issues (Breakdown and Analysis) -

            Honestly, in the game's current form, it is completely unplayable in my opinion for anyone that plays manual defense. I've shelved it until these issues are rectified. What an utter disappointment.

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            • ChaseB
              #BringBackFaceuary
              • Oct 2003
              • 9844

              #21
              Re: MLB The Show 20: Detailing the Current Fielding Issues (Breakdown and Analysis) -

              Originally posted by Qb
              Not quite the same as what's being discussed, but what's up with the CPU's insistence on going to 2nd for force outs? It's an issue on sac bunts, but I'm also seeing it on non-routine grounders where it's not the easier/safer play. Multiple times seeing the 2B going towards first spin for an awkward throw to second. Even saw a 3B a step of two from the bag in a two-out bases loaded situation gun it to 2nd and barely get the runner. I get that some of these situations present a reward (lead runner, double play), but too many are too risky (runners often safe) or flat out don't make any sense (two outs, tougher play).
              Can't say I've seen something like this too often as of now. The only weird CPU thing I see with the bases has to do with them trying to take 2nd on overly risky plays while running the bases.
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              • tessl
                All Star
                • Apr 2007
                • 5682

                #22
                Re: MLB The Show 20: Detailing the Current Fielding Issues (Breakdown and Analysis) -

                Originally posted by ChaseB
                No. I even go out of my way to explain what is user error within the videos and what's the game just not recognizing where you are in relation to the ball. We do agree that there is user pathing or something along those lines that is throwing off the systems in place, but it's not user error that should be blamed here on the whole.
                I'm always concerned when the fix something outside of manage mode it will mess up manage mode. There are a few minor issues in manage mode but if I could freeze the game as it is and not download any more patches I would.

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                • canes21
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 22910

                  #23
                  Re: MLB The Show 20: Detailing the Current Fielding Issues (Breakdown and Analysis) -

                  Originally posted by ChaseB
                  Can't say I've seen something like this too often as of now. The only weird CPU thing I see with the bases has to do with them trying to take 2nd on overly risky plays while running the bases.

                  I have noticed the AI loves going ton2nd for force outs in so many situations that don't make sense. I've even seen my defenders make some decisions that would never be made in real life. The last two nights I've seen Freeman field a sac bunt and go to 2nd with it, but the throw is late and we end up getting nobody out. When you're up 4 runs with 1 out and they're giving you the 2nd out, you would never go to 2nd with that ball and risk that. I've also seen the CPU go to 2nd to try and get my lead runner and then end up getting nobody out when I was giving them a free out.
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                  • countryboy
                    Growing pains
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 52718

                    #24
                    Re: MLB The Show 20: Detailing the Current Fielding Issues (Breakdown and Analysis) -

                    I was going to stay out of this thread, but I have a question for those who are seeing the infielders not reaching for/running by ground balls.

                    When you take your path to the ball, are you running on a complete horizontal plane, or are you taking an angle, slight or moderate, to "cutoff" the ball?

                    The reason I ask is that I'm wondering if some of the infielders not reaching for/running by the ball could be attributed to the fielder not creating a "meeting point" for the baseball? By that I mean they run on a horizontal plane and create no opportunity to have glove and ball meet.

                    I'm not trying to discredit anyone who is seeing this happen, saying it doesn't happen, nor am I trying to insult anyone's intelligence of the game of baseball, how to field or anything of that nature.

                    I'm just wondering if possibly during the "heat of battle" players at times could be, for lack of a better phrase this early in the morning, taking a bad route to the baseball.

                    And yes, there have been a few times that I've noticed an infielder not attempting a play and when I review it, either replay or just think it over, I realize that I should've taken a slight angle to create a meeting point.
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                    • nemesis04
                      RIP Ty My Buddy
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 13530

                      #25
                      Re: MLB The Show 20: Detailing the Current Fielding Issues (Breakdown and Analysis) -

                      This has happened 3 times so far. I am hitting and the cpu is in the field. Immediately you will see them take off to the spot where the ball will carom off the wall and just wait for it. I have reported it.


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