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  • Artman22
    MVP
    • Jul 2006
    • 4985

    #31
    Re: MLB The Show 20 Patch 1.19 Available - Patch Notes

    Originally posted by Caulfield
    if it ain't, it needs to be, if only for the sake of bunting. but I really don't think it is.

    Many On Twitter including myself have called this year’s game a Hr Derby. Yet, some here aren’t seeing it. I don’t even know what to say..


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    • countryboy
      Growing pains
      • Sep 2003
      • 52728

      #32
      Re: MLB The Show 20 Patch 1.19 Available - Patch Notes

      Originally posted by Artman22
      Many On Twitter including myself have called this year’s game a Hr Derby. Yet, some here aren’t seeing it. I don’t even know what to say..


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      You chalk it up to different experiences and move along


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      • KnightTemplar
        MVP
        • Feb 2017
        • 3282

        #33
        Re: MLB The Show 20 Patch 1.19 Available - Patch Notes

        Originally posted by Artman22
        Many On Twitter including myself have called this year’s game a Hr Derby. Yet, some here aren’t seeing it. I don’t even know what to say..


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        I would never play a game that is a home run derby. I think people forget all the sliders/levels and then the gamers actual ability with a controller. If I felt this game was off, I wouldn't be playing it. You use MANY that criticize the game and SOME here aren't seeing it. Could that be reverse? I see complaints on Facebook and shake my head because I just don't get it. Nobody really knows the expectations of each gamer.

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        • Bullit
          Bacon is Better
          • Aug 2009
          • 5004

          #34
          Re: MLB The Show 20 Patch 1.19 Available - Patch Notes

          Originally posted by Artman22
          Many On Twitter including myself have called this year’s game a Hr Derby. Yet, some here aren’t seeing it. I don’t even know what to say..


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          Just my opinion, which is worth exactly nothing by the way. I think we get so many different experiences because of the variety of rosters. Folks like Countryboy are playing exclusively on carry over franchises that have been going on for years. I think these rosters are inherently better balanced and not as effected by year to year changes in the game engine outside of gameplay additions. A very large group of us here use created or fictional rosters that are technically more balanced than the default rosters.

          I mean no disrespect to anybody. But the SDS rosters and continuing updates are just garbage. They are poorly balanced statistically and fundamentally just don't work well. I had all but given up on last years game until I discovered Bacons fictional rosters. I started a franchise with this years rosters and had nothing but problems. Too many trades, play felt unbalanced. Everything was extremes. I would either have no offense or I would have too much offense. But I currently am deep into 3 different franchises with user created rosters and have never played a better game of Baseball in my life.

          Also a lot offline franchise players may tweak sliders to remedy gameplay to their liking. This option is not available in DD or most online modes I believe.

          All of this combined would naturally give different gameplay experiences to a multitude of players, in most categories of the game.
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          • Artman22
            MVP
            • Jul 2006
            • 4985

            #35
            Re: MLB The Show 20 Patch 1.19 Available - Patch Notes

            On stock sliders on HOF we were sometimes getting a ton of HRs every game. In the league I’m playing with the twins and in 8 games in Buxton had 6HRs. Some guys on different teams were in double digits in the same amount of games. It got to the point where members of the league were calling the game a HR derby. This started happening more after the last update and the fielding has also taken a hit. We now lowered the HR sliders and had to up the difficulty to Legend to try and remedy the HR issues.


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            • JoshC1977
              All Star
              • Dec 2010
              • 11564

              #36
              Re: MLB The Show 20 Patch 1.19 Available - Patch Notes

              If you're using the 2020 rosters on default settings; it's a perfect recipe for a HR Derby feel and I can imagine it would be worse depending on one's input methods.

              I play a ton of DD offline (which yes, is on default settings) and a ton of franchise with my slightly tweaked sliders and a custom roster (Bacon's). I've got a good basis for compare/contrast...and there are several key issues:

              1. 2020 Rosters. Issue 1 is a incredibly poor balance between high-end hitters and high-end pitchers. Bullpens are a disaster and many rotations are not much better. Now, if you want to argue "that's the era we're in", ok fine...but then we get to number 2 and I question if it's a bit overdone.

              2. 2020 Rosters. Issue 2 is that there are SO many players with large numbers of bright red hot zones. Compare the number of red hot zones of high end players from the 2020 roster to even last years SDS roster. It's stark...and you hit a ball with good timing in a bright red zone, the ball is going to fly a long way.

              Folks playing offline with custom rosters not built off of this year's rosters (or those using carryovers) are going to have a VASTLY different experience. Additionally, two other contributors....

              3. Solid hits is too high by default. This isn't uncommon with the series; but the quality of contact is just a touch too high (which potentiates the other issues). It's also why the online guys often cry about so many line-outs. Even the slightest lowering of this can greatly improve the hit variety a ton.

              4. Pitch control is too low by default. I don't care if you use classic, meter, or analog; if you roll with default settings, you've seen this a lot. You use a solid pitcher, aim a FB a ball length to the outside and it somehow drifts all the way back over to the middle zone of the plate (to get crushed). Pitchers miss pitches, we ALL understand that. We ALL understand ratings. I fundamentally question the frequency of how often pitchers with even average (~60) pitch control miss by THAT MUCH. Bumping it up a single notch curtails this while by no means making it "easy".
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              • Artman22
                MVP
                • Jul 2006
                • 4985

                #37
                Re: MLB The Show 20 Patch 1.19 Available - Patch Notes

                Originally posted by JoshC1977
                If you're using the 2020 rosters on default settings; it's a perfect recipe for a HR Derby feel and I can imagine it would be worse depending on one's input methods.

                I play a ton of DD offline (which yes, is on default settings) and a ton of franchise with my slightly tweaked sliders and a custom roster (Bacon's). I've got a good basis for compare/contrast...and there are several key issues:

                1. 2020 Rosters. Issue 1 is a incredibly poor balance between high-end hitters and high-end pitchers. Bullpens are a disaster and many rotations are not much better. Now, if you want to argue "that's the era we're in", ok fine...but then we get to number 2 and I question if it's a bit overdone.

                2. 2020 Rosters. Issue 2 is that there are SO many players with large numbers of bright red hot zones. Compare the number of red hot zones of high end players from the 2020 roster to even last years SDS roster. It's stark...and you hit a ball with good timing in a bright red zone, the ball is going to fly a long way.

                Folks playing offline with custom rosters not built off of this year's rosters (or those using carryovers) are going to have a VASTLY different experience. Additionally, two other contributors....

                3. Solid hits is too high by default. This isn't uncommon with the series; but the quality of contact is just a touch too high (which potentiates the other issues). It's also why the online guys often cry about so many line-outs. Even the slightest lowering of this can greatly improve the hit variety a ton.

                4. Pitch control is too low by default. I don't care if you use classic, meter, or analog; if you roll with default settings, you've seen this a lot. You use a solid pitcher, aim a FB a ball length to the outside and it somehow drifts all the way back over to the middle zone of the plate (to get crushed). Pitchers miss pitches, we ALL understand that. We ALL understand ratings. I fundamentally question the frequency of how often pitchers with even average (~60) pitch control miss by THAT MUCH. Bumping it up a single notch curtails this while by no means making it "easy".

                Would you suggest lowering juman solid hits and power by 1 or more clicks and raising the pitcher control by 1?


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                • Houston
                  MVP
                  • May 2003
                  • 4724

                  #38
                  Re: MLB The Show 20 Patch 1.19 Available - Patch Notes

                  Leagues u can use sliders just like offline no different that makes gameplay more realistic. There us not that much difference inside a league and offline as far as sliders work.

                  Now it will depend on internet who your playing when pitching behind pitcher hie pitches look which is still a visual thing.
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                  • JoshC1977
                    All Star
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 11564

                    #39
                    Re: MLB The Show 20 Patch 1.19 Available - Patch Notes

                    Originally posted by Artman22
                    Would you suggest lowering juman solid hits and power by 1 or more clicks and raising the pitcher control by 1?


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                    Since you're stuck with a 2020 roster; yeah, you'd have to bite the bullet and also lower power. I'd go one click each one of those (power/solid hits/control) and I would do it for both the user and CPU sliders (I know it's a user league...BUT...I feel like it does work better when they are both married).

                    The other subtle change you can make is adding a pitch speed offset. So set the FB speed one notch faster than the offspeed pitch setting. It's a bit too easy to time up offspeed pitches when they're set the same IMO.
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                    • mariner690
                      Rookie
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 256

                      #40
                      Re: MLB The Show 20 Patch 1.19 Available - Patch Notes

                      Has anyone been watching this postseason? Almost every game is now homerun derby. Nobody steals bases or uses the hit and run. It’s three outcome or bust. IMO it does not make for an enjoyable game of baseball whether it’s the video game version or real life.


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                      • Jhack99
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2020
                        • 194

                        #41
                        Re: MLB The Show 20 Patch 1.19 Available - Patch Notes

                        Originally posted by mariner690
                        Has anyone been watching this postseason? Almost every game is now homerun derby. Nobody steals bases or uses the hit and run. It’s three outcome or bust. IMO it does not make for an enjoyable game of baseball whether it’s the video game version or real life.


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                        Thats what everyone wants though, pitchers to get annihilated. I'll take a good ol' pitchers duel over a softball game score, especially in the postseason.

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                        • Caulfield
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 10986

                          #42
                          Re: MLB The Show 20 Patch 1.19 Available - Patch Notes

                          Originally posted by Jhack99
                          Thats what everyone wants though, pitchers to get annihilated. I'll take a good ol' pitchers duel over a softball game score, especially in the postseason.
                          someones polling is off. not everyone wants Arena football/NBA scores baseball. I'm in the same camp as you and there are a lot of others like us that prefer 10-7 games be the exception not the rule. we might still be in the minority for now but it's been my experience when a sport, or whatever else, attempts to change who they mostly cater to, the newbies in the longrun turn out fickle, not loyal, and easily move on to the new flavor of the day. and when that happens to MLB I'll be waiting patiently, same as I'm waiting for NASCAR to return to good sense.


                          as for patches, over/under for more patches is 1.5, I'm going under in that there is only 1 patch left for 20
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                          • BleacherCreature
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 3160

                            #43
                            Re: MLB The Show 20 Patch 1.19 Available - Patch Notes

                            Did anyone else’s settings get reset after this patch? I hadn’t played for a few days and when I started my game today, first one post patch, it was as if I’d just installed the game for the first time (asking me for difficulty level, favorite team etc.). It also reset my in-game settings such as hitting and pitching difficulty, camera and other stuff. My sliders, however, remained intact once I loaded my franchise.


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                            • countryboy
                              Growing pains
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 52728

                              #44
                              Re: MLB The Show 20 Patch 1.19 Available - Patch Notes

                              Originally posted by BleacherCreature
                              Did anyone else’s settings get reset after this patch? I hadn’t played for a few days and when I started my game today, first one post patch, it was as if I’d just installed the game for the first time (asking me for difficulty level, favorite team etc.). It also reset my in-game settings such as hitting and pitching difficulty, camera and other stuff. My sliders, however, remained intact once I loaded my franchise.


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                              Yes which is weird because I had played games after the patch without issue. Started game today and settings all reset. I don't alter sliders so I don't know if they would've been reset or not.

                              Very weird.

                              But I can't get into PSN either...so related????
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                              • shawn306
                                Rookie
                                • Apr 2016
                                • 115

                                #45
                                Re: MLB The Show 20 Patch 1.19 Available - Patch Notes

                                Originally posted by countryboy
                                Yes which is weird because I had played games after the patch without issue. Started game today and settings all reset. I don't alter sliders so I don't know if they would've been reset or not.

                                Very weird.

                                But I can't get into PSN either...so related????
                                I think so. Same thing happened to me today. I rebooted and it was fine after that

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