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  • TheKnack
    Contributor
    • Aug 2011
    • 758

    #1

    One Reason to Potentially Expect a Delay?

    Hey guys,

    Was thinking. Aside from the new console generation spurring a potential delay, it seems none of us are talking about the chore at hand for SDS in the contraction of Minor League Baseball.

    By MLB contracting the minors and re-dustributing teams to organizations, we could be in store for 30-50 brand new teams/logos SDS will need to add into The Show.

    Minor league affiliates will be changing by the bucketload and in a lot of cases, new affiliates will be brand new to some big league teams. That's a lot of heavy lifting for SDS.

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  • jrnlgrn
    Pro
    • Oct 2018
    • 3076

    #2
    Re: One Reason to Potentially Expect a Delay?

    How did you come to the conclusion that they would be re-branding 30-50 teams? From everything I've read over the last few months as I understand it those teams will just cease to be part of the official minor league baseball pyramid and either fold completely or possibly become part of an independent league.
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    • Madden08PCgmr
      MVP
      • Feb 2017
      • 2435

      #3
      Re: One Reason to Potentially Expect a Delay?

      Think it would be pretty easy for SDS to release generic teams, and let the end user re-brand teams as they see fit. Might be more appealing actually.

      I can't really relate to the Arkansas Travellers. Couldn't care less if that affiliation came to an end. I'd prefer to 'relocate' them Everett or Spokane, and I can do whatever I want with the brand.

      And without A ball and rookie leagues, the premise is pretty half-baked anyway. Who knows whether MLB will even keep the same structure in short term, with the challenges society is facing. So HOPEFULLY, SDS is taking this opportunity to think out of the box and develop MiLB into something more story driven to capture their audience.

      .. or just bring back season-mode. There aren't too many compelling reasons to deal with AAA and AA, the way this is currently structured.
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      • Jhack99
        Rookie
        • Sep 2020
        • 194

        #4
        Re: One Reason to Potentially Expect a Delay?

        Can you rebrand minor league teams? I didn't touch the option, but thought it was MLB teams only. And being a player that gets deep into my franchise, I want more minor league players not less. Especially with the 26/28 man roster rules.

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        Last edited by Jhack99; 11-10-2020, 09:59 PM.

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        • TheKnack
          Contributor
          • Aug 2011
          • 758

          #5
          Re: One Reason to Potentially Expect a Delay?

          There are teams coming from independent ball to take the place of existing minor league teams. That, and some A ball teams may replace existing AA and AAA teams in organizations.

          In both cases, those teams have not been created by SDS yet.
          Originally posted by jrnlgrn
          How did you come to the conclusion that they would be re-branding 30-50 teams? From everything I've read over the last few months as I understand it those teams will just cease to be part of the official minor league baseball pyramid and either fold completely or possibly become part of an independent league.
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          • Karle
            Pro
            • Feb 2009
            • 820

            #6
            Re: One Reason to Potentially Expect a Delay?

            Even with the rebranding and relocation of some minor league teams, it would be good if SDS continued to make the logos and city names from the old teams still available for rebranding.

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            • bacon96
              Bacon's Fictional Roster
              • Feb 2013
              • 1963

              #7
              Re: One Reason to Potentially Expect a Delay?

              Originally posted by TheKnack
              There are teams coming from independent ball to take the place of existing minor league teams. That, and some A ball teams may replace existing AA and AAA teams in organizations.

              In both cases, those teams have not been created by SDS yet.

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              I'm still confused as to how you got to this conclusion...SDS may already have these teams created and they're just waiting to see how the PDCs get distributed. They have team colors shown for High-A teams (if you ever edit a player in A-ball in game, you'll see this) and they have audio for a lot of these minor league teams as well which you can hear in either of the team creation screens.

              I don't disagree that MLB21 may have a delayed launch but I don't think this would be one of my top reasons for it.
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              • BigOscar
                MVP
                • May 2016
                • 2971

                #8
                Re: One Reason to Potentially Expect a Delay?

                Yeah there is literally zero way that anything to do with franchise would jeopardise the release date of the game. If they can't sort out the minor leagues in time, they simply won't do it.

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                • Caulfield
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 10986

                  #9
                  Re: One Reason to Potentially Expect a Delay?

                  I do expect a delay of some sort, I sure don't look for a March 13 type release like 20, but I also don't believe there's any way 21 gets delayed because of something in Franchise, especially not because of minor league ball. now Diamond Dynasty delaying the release because of problems with bat-flip animations or defective bad black mirror shades, that you could sell me on
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                  • Madden08PCgmr
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2017
                    • 2435

                    #10
                    Re: One Reason to Potentially Expect a Delay?

                    Originally posted by jimmy13
                    I wonder if sds was even really able to get facescans or really get any Meaningful work done at all.
                    I wouldn't be a bit surprised if this winds up like Madden 12, with the same roster as the previous year, just to release the game out in time.
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                    • lemarflacco
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2018
                      • 1001

                      #11
                      Re: One Reason to Potentially Expect a Delay?

                      Originally posted by jimmy13
                      I wonder if sds was even really able to get facescans or really get any Meaningful work done at all.
                      Wouldnt really matter for this year. The facescans you’ll see this year are from last years spring training. Now next years may really suffer depending on how this spring training plays out.

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                      • ninertravel
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2015
                        • 4833

                        #12
                        Re: One Reason to Potentially Expect a Delay?

                        It will. E at least May or later next year remember we had to wait too late May in 2024 for ps4 version. So the ps3 one kept us going we had to buy the game twice.

                        Time will tell it they make us but it twice again this time.

                        A hell of a lot of players will be missing from
                        The game next year too. It was only a 60 game season and lots of players didn’t play this year, therefore by the rule wont be in mlb 21, we won’t see face scans ect

                        Next year might be a year to actually skip buying it and stick to 20. I’m serious here m. The rosters will be a complete mess because of 2020
                        Last edited by ninertravel; 11-15-2020, 04:43 AM.

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                        • Caulfield
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 10986

                          #13
                          Re: One Reason to Potentially Expect a Delay?

                          Originally posted by ninertravel
                          A hell of a lot of players will be missing from
                          The game next year too. It was only a 60 game season and lots of players didn’t play this year, therefore by the rule wont be in mlb 21, we won’t see face scans ect... The rosters will be a complete mess because of 2020
                          I could be wrong but this is not what I expect. I do expect guys like David Price, Mike Leake, Ryan Zimmerman etc. to be in the game, as well as real minor leaguers in Triple & Double A.

                          I may wait till a couple days after release to see what 21 holds and if for some reason it isn't up to snuff I'll pass for the first time since Show 08 (it was like September of that year before I picked 08 up iirc), might just wait till later in the summer for a price drop. at the very least I'll want to play my last year at some point in time with my Braves carry-over with a new schedule. then start fresh with the ps5 and Show 22 in the spring of 2022. but for now my expectations for 21 is that SDS do what it takes to put out a game worthy of the Show brand
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                          • ninertravel
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 4833

                            #14
                            Re: One Reason to Potentially Expect a Delay?

                            Originally posted by Caulfield
                            I could be wrong but this is not what I expect. I do expect guys like David Price, Mike Leake, Ryan Zimmerman etc. to be in the game, as well as real minor leaguers in Triple & Double A.

                            I may wait till a couple days after release to see what 21 holds and if for some reason it isn't up to snuff I'll pass for the first time since Show 08 (it was like September of that year before I picked 08 up iirc), might just wait till later in the summer for a price drop. at the very least I'll want to play my last year at some point in time with my Braves carry-over with a new schedule. then start fresh with the ps5 and Show 22 in the spring of 2022. but for now my expectations for 21 is that SDS do what it takes to put out a game worthy of the Show brand
                            We thought this last year and we were disappointed, history shows if a vet misses an entire season unless on the Injured list isn’t in the next years game. So I guess it comes down to the covid list counting as a Injured list?

                            It’s funny people keep going on about 2020 being a crap year but 2021 gotta go through.crap yet leftover from 2020.

                            I played the ball out of the game this year with no baseball up till about June, then I gave up on a 2020 season happening and by the time it did I lost interest this years season and then stopped playing the game. I guess losing both parents to cancer within 11 months of each other didn’t help either.

                            But I have really bad fears for next years game as far as rosters go after the mess of 2020
                            Last edited by ninertravel; 11-15-2020, 08:31 AM.

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                            • countryboy
                              Growing pains
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 52720

                              #15
                              Re: One Reason to Potentially Expect a Delay?

                              The players who opted out of the season this year due to COVID concerns are still part of the MLBPA. I would be extremely shocked if they weren't on the default roster in 2021.

                              Typically the only time a vet who misses a season or more is missing from the game is due to them opting to play overseas or independent ball and therefore are removed from the player's association.
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