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  • tessl
    All Star
    • Apr 2007
    • 5683

    #1

    One thing they need to change in franchise - bobbled ground balls

    They introduced bobbled ground ball in mlbts20 for some reason. It reminds me of when they introduced more pitches in the dirt and there were exponentially more wild pitches than in real MLB.

    The number of bobbled ground balls in mlbts20 is exponentially higher than in real MLB. It needs to be toned down for mlbts21. MLB isn't tee ball.
    Last edited by tessl; 01-11-2021, 12:31 PM.
  • MLB14
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    • May 2014
    • 636

    #2
    Re: One thing they need to change in franchise - bobbled ground balls

    They probably went overboard to showcase the new animation; rookie stuff.

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    • countryboy
      Growing pains
      • Sep 2003
      • 52729

      #3
      Re: One thing they need to change in franchise - bobbled ground balls

      How many are you seeing per game or how often are you seeing it?

      I can play full games and not see the ball be bobbled/booted at all and then there are times when I may see one a game, and others where a couple may occur.

      Nothing about it screams overdone in my opinion. It happens, but not a rate where I would consider it an issue that needs to be addressed.
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      • Armor and Sword
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        • Sep 2010
        • 21790

        #4
        Re: One thing they need to change in franchise - bobbled ground balls

        Originally posted by countryboy
        How many are you seeing per game or how often are you seeing it?

        I can play full games and not see the ball be bobbled/booted at all and then there are times when I may see one a game, and others where a couple may occur.

        Nothing about it screams overdone in my opinion. It happens, but not a rate where I would consider it an issue that needs to be addressed.
        I play on auto fielding/manual button throwing (no meter) and do not see it as a problem at all with my slider settings. I play every game every pitch.
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        • countryboy
          Growing pains
          • Sep 2003
          • 52729

          #5
          Re: One thing they need to change in franchise - bobbled ground balls

          Originally posted by Armor and Sword
          I play on auto fielding/manual button throwing (no meter) and do not see it as a problem at all with my slider settings. I play every game every pitch.
          I'm on button throwing and manual fielding.

          I do need to clarify that I'm playing a carryover franchise, not sure if that makes a difference, wouldn't think so but to offer full disclosure.

          OP...which fielding/throwing options are you using?
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          • bronxbombers21325
            MVP
            • Mar 2012
            • 3058

            #6
            Re: One thing they need to change in franchise - bobbled ground balls

            I haven’t had an issue with this. I may see a higher volume when there is someone playing out of their normal position, or when you have a fielder that isn’t that good. But amongst starters it hasn’t been a problem.

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            • JoshC1977
              All Star
              • Dec 2010
              • 11564

              #7
              Re: One thing they need to change in franchise - bobbled ground balls

              Originally posted by tessl
              The number of bobbled ground balls in mlbts20 is exponentially higher than in real MLB. It needs to be toned down for mlbts21. MLB isn't tee ball.
              I didn't see the link to the data. Can you please re-send it?
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              • tessl
                All Star
                • Apr 2007
                • 5683

                #8
                Re: One thing they need to change in franchise - bobbled ground balls

                Originally posted by countryboy
                How many are you seeing per game or how often are you seeing it?

                I can play full games and not see the ball be bobbled/booted at all and then there are times when I may see one a game, and others where a couple may occur.

                Nothing about it screams overdone in my opinion. It happens, but not a rate where I would consider it an issue that needs to be addressed.
                Maybe it's worse in manage mode. I see several each game in both the infield and outfield on routine plays. I can understand on a difficult play where the fielder has to dive for the ball but it rarely happens in MLB on routine plays.

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                • tessl
                  All Star
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 5683

                  #9
                  Re: One thing they need to change in franchise - bobbled ground balls

                  Originally posted by JoshC1977
                  I didn't see the link to the data. Can you please re-send it?
                  I spent a lot of time documenting wild pitches a few years ago and people ridiculed my efforts and I realized I was an idiot for taking the time to do that.

                  I would suggest playing the game and seeing the issue yourself.

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                  • countryboy
                    Growing pains
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 52729

                    #10
                    Re: One thing they need to change in franchise - bobbled ground balls

                    Originally posted by tessl
                    Maybe it's worse in manage mode. I see several each game in both the infield and outfield on routine plays. I can understand on a difficult play where the fielder has to dive for the ball but it rarely happens in MLB on routine plays.
                    Yeah I cannot speak to the experience in manage mode. I would think it would play out no differently than the AI in the single player experience, but again, I've never played manage mode and I know over the years, those that play manage mode have experienced things within the gameplay that I had not as a user vs AI player.

                    Hope they are able to tweak it within manage mode to yield better results for yourself and others who may be experiencing this.
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                    • countryboy
                      Growing pains
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 52729

                      #11
                      Re: One thing they need to change in franchise - bobbled ground balls

                      Originally posted by tessl
                      I spent a lot of time documenting wild pitches a few years ago and people ridiculed my efforts and I realized I was an idiot for taking the time to do that.

                      I would suggest playing the game and seeing the issue yourself.
                      We all play the game.

                      The original post leaves a lot of information out, such as you play with manage mode. Its why I asked what fielding/throwing options you use.

                      When you present an issue, its difficult to understand the issue, and help/discuss, when everything is painted with broad strokes. You just said they needed to tone them down because they are occurring exponentially higher than in real MLB, without offering any further information into the issue you're experiencing/wanting resolved.
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                      • tessl
                        All Star
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 5683

                        #12
                        Re: One thing they need to change in franchise - bobbled ground balls

                        Originally posted by countryboy
                        We all play the game.

                        The original post leaves a lot of information out, such as you play with manage mode. Its why I asked what fielding/throwing options you use.

                        When you present an issue, its difficult to understand the issue, and help/discuss, when everything is painted with broad strokes. You just said they needed to tone them down because they are occurring exponentially higher than in real MLB, without offering any further information into the issue you're experiencing/wanting resolved.
                        I manage mode all fielding is done by the AI. It is the purest form of the game as programmed.

                        Do you use default sliders?

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                        • countryboy
                          Growing pains
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 52729

                          #13
                          Re: One thing they need to change in franchise - bobbled ground balls

                          Originally posted by tessl
                          I manage mode all fielding is done by the AI. It is the purest form of the game as programmed.

                          Do you use default sliders?
                          Yes I use default sliders
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                          I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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                          • TheWarmWind
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                            • Apr 2015
                            • 2620

                            #14
                            Re: One thing they need to change in franchise - bobbled ground balls

                            Odd, I have errors turned up and I'm still not sure I see it enough.

                            The errors engine is odd though. According to all of my testing, it works on a formula where the longer you go without seeing an error, the higher the odds of an error happening. It eventually stacks up so high that the player in question or the ease of the play become non-factors.

                            So there's this situation where turning errors up actually helped out my team (with it's high defensive ratings), as lower defensively rated players and tough plays were causing more errors, allowing my team's defense to be a bigger factor as the error "stack" was more often satisfied.

                            So, as odd as it sounds, maybe turning errors up might help with your issue.

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                            • Jeffrey Smith
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                              • Apr 2014
                              • 1925

                              #15
                              Re: One thing they need to change in franchise - bobbled ground balls

                              Originally posted by TheWarmWind
                              Odd, I have errors turned up and I'm still not sure I see it enough.



                              The errors engine is odd though. According to all of my testing, it works on a formula where the longer you go without seeing an error, the higher the odds of an error happening. It eventually stacks up so high that the player in question or the ease of the play become non-factors.



                              So there's this situation where turning errors up actually helped out my team (with it's high defensive ratings), as lower defensively rated players and tough plays were causing more errors, allowing my team's defense to be a bigger factor as the error "stack" was more often satisfied.



                              So, as odd as it sounds, maybe turning errors up might help with your issue.


                              This would explain why I can go forever without seeing any errors and then have 3 or 4 in one game.


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