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  • finzerjim
    Rookie
    • Apr 2018
    • 29

    #16
    Re: Questions about Pitching & Hitting in MLB The Show 2021?

    Hey Victor
    Why is the show 21 catering to all the online DD modes and forgetting about offline true simulation franchise mode fans? I enjoy the grind of 162 playing games based off player ratings directional hitting classic pitching. This check swing mechanic is all stick skills. Why is this changing for offline?

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    • Armor and Sword
      The Lama
      • Sep 2010
      • 21792

      #17
      Questions about Pitching & Hitting in MLB The Show 2021?

      Victor,



      Thank you for doing this. Really easy question for you regarding check swings.



      Are you guys capable of putting back in the Discipline rating to drive the check swing result on simulation mode. Or does this decision on check swings have to be universal decision across all game styles.



      As an offline franchise mode player it has become quite frustrating seeing online game players steering the ship on game play decisions such as bunting and now check swings.



      I thought the point of now creating game styles was to make sure online wants and needs do not cross over to those of us who play offline vs the CPU exclusively.



      So a simple answer on this is “can this be accomplished for simulation mode for MLB 22” would be greatly appreciated. Obviously the design decision was already made for 21.
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      • Caulfield
        Hall Of Fame
        • Apr 2011
        • 10986

        #18
        Re: Questions about Pitching & Hitting in MLB The Show 2021?

        Originally posted by Armor and Sword
        Victor,



        Thank you for doing this. Really easy question for you regarding check swings.



        Are you guys capable of putting back in the Discipline rating to drive the check swing result on simulation mode. Or does this decision on check swings have to be universal decision across all game styles.



        As an offline franchise mode player it has become quite frustrating seeing online game players steering the ship on game play decisions such as bunting and now check swings.



        I thought the point of now creating game styles was to make sure online wants and needs do not cross over to those of us who play offline vs the CPU exclusively.



        So a simple answer on this is “can this be accomplished for simulation mode for MLB 22” would be greatly appreciated. Obviously the design decision was already made for 21.
        motion seconded.
        this has to be the $64,000 question so many of us have.
        while I'm less bothered about the new check swing in 21
        (on a scale of 1-10, for me personally, a 3)
        as I am to where bunting has evolved the last several years
        (but even there, on 1-10 scale, at most a 5 for me),
        I wonder how feasible would be a global bunting slider that adjusts bunt power for offline only for Show 22 or 23 or beyond.
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        • VictorSDS
          MLB The Show Developer
          • Mar 2018
          • 8

          #19
          Re: Questions about Pitching & Hitting in MLB The Show 2021?

          Thank you all for your questions, and pinning the thread!

          We tried to get to as many as we could in the short amount of time we had, with questions collected from here and also a few other places.

          I can't link yet, but It's up on the news section at The Show's website.

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          • countryboy
            Growing pains
            • Sep 2003
            • 52732

            #20
            Re: Questions about Pitching & Hitting in MLB The Show 2021?

            Originally posted by VictorSDS
            Thank you all for your questions, and pinning the thread!



            We tried to get to as many as we could in the short amount of time we had, with questions collected from here and also a few other places.



            I can't link yet, but It's up on the news section at The Show's website.


            Thank you again for doing this!


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            • Caulfield
              Hall Of Fame
              • Apr 2011
              • 10986

              #21
              Re: Questions about Pitching & Hitting in MLB The Show 2021?

              well, that's interesting:
              question - does the change to check swings based on user input apply to directional batting...

              answer - checked swings are user driven on all hitting interfaces
              later:
              question - are you doing away with the discipline rating? if not what does the rating do since it's no longer for check swings?

              answer - ...high discipline makes checked swings easier to execute
              I don't mean to be difficult but I'm afraid I'm more confused than I was two days ago
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              • jrnlgrn
                Pro
                • Oct 2018
                • 3076

                #22
                Re: Questions about Pitching & Hitting in MLB The Show 2021?

                Originally posted by Caulfield
                I don't mean to be difficult but I'm afraid I'm more confused than I was two days ago
                Okay, good, i'm not the only one confused.

                I wonder if what it does is eliminates the times where the batter checks despite your input.

                Edit: But that would still mean it's attribute driven. Never mind guess we'll find out when the game drops.
                Last edited by jrnlgrn; 03-17-2021, 07:02 PM.
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                • VictorSDS
                  MLB The Show Developer
                  • Mar 2018
                  • 8

                  #23
                  Re: Questions about Pitching & Hitting in MLB The Show 2021?

                  Originally posted by Caulfield
                  well, that's interesting:


                  later:
                  I don't mean to be difficult but I'm afraid I'm more confused than I was two days ago
                  Apologies if this is confusing.

                  Discipline rating is still a factor for increasing walks and directly influences swing decisions during fast-forward and simming. High discipline made checked swings easier to execute, but still affects the rate of automatically dodging near miss hit by pitches (i.e. preventing you from swinging at them).

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                  • jrnlgrn
                    Pro
                    • Oct 2018
                    • 3076

                    #24
                    Re: Questions about Pitching & Hitting in MLB The Show 2021?

                    Originally posted by VictorSDS
                    Apologies if this is confusing.

                    Discipline rating is still a factor for increasing walks and directly influences swing decisions during fast-forward and simming. High discipline made checked swings easier to execute, but still affects the rate of automatically dodging near miss hit by pitches (i.e. preventing you from swinging at them).
                    Thank you for clearing this up.
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                    • bryanm1982
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2016
                      • 3786

                      #25
                      Re: Questions about Pitching & Hitting in MLB The Show 2021?

                      So I assume if the discipline still matters for fast-forwarding and simming, then the AI would go by that when they are batting in games?
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                      • JoshC1977
                        All Star
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 11564

                        #26
                        Re: Questions about Pitching & Hitting in MLB The Show 2021?

                        Originally posted by bryanm1982
                        So I assume if the discipline still matters for fast-forwarding and simming, then the AI would go by that when they are batting in games?
                        That would seem to make sense.
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                        • VictorSDS
                          MLB The Show Developer
                          • Mar 2018
                          • 8

                          #27
                          Re: Questions about Pitching & Hitting in MLB The Show 2021?

                          Originally posted by bryanm1982
                          So I assume if the discipline still matters for fast-forwarding and simming, then the AI would go by that when they are batting in games?
                          Yes, correct!

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                          • JoshC1977
                            All Star
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 11564

                            #28
                            Re: Questions about Pitching & Hitting in MLB The Show 2021?

                            So, if I understand correctly....

                            If I am a user that plays every pitch of every franchise game, under the new paradigm, the following two players are "equal" for my team (assume all other ratings are equal):

                            80 Contact
                            80 Power
                            10 Discipline

                            80 Contact
                            80 Power
                            80 Discipline

                            If so, from a team-building perspective, this becomes problematic as it would be incredibly easy to for a user to "bargain shop".

                            In my opinion, I think this is the root why many of us in this forum have raised a concern about discipline's impact in Simulation game mode.

                            Not requesting an answer per se Victor, but just more 'food for thought'.
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                            • MJ200
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2019
                              • 111

                              #29
                              Re: Questions about Pitching & Hitting in MLB The Show 2021?

                              can you finally turn off the homerun cutscene camera like you could a few years ago???

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                              • baseballguy99
                                Pro
                                • Mar 2019
                                • 929

                                #30
                                Re: Questions about Pitching & Hitting in MLB The Show 2021?

                                Originally posted by MJ200
                                can you finally turn off the homerun cutscene camera like you could a few years ago???

                                I give up asking, they refuse to answer this question... I just don’t understand

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