My little brother is this game’s target audience

[ninertravel]

Re: My little brother is this game’s target audience

Tell him I pay every single game on the s Hegel even at pitch all 30 teams

[AUChase]

Re: My little brother is this game’s target audience

Like 80-90% of MTO consists of simulated innings/games lol.

It's not a franchise mode though so I don't look at it the same way as if I'm trying to build something long term. I should have specified franchise instead of saying "any game in a sports game."

What usually happens is I start a franchise and have to sim games and eventually I just don't finish the season so something like MTO is appealing because at least I'll get to the end of the season.

Better clarification?

[loso_34]

Re: My little brother is this game’s target audience

The way some on this forum seem to try and diminish the players of the other modes is a little tiring at times. The holier than thou, "we are the real baseball fans" gets annoying.

It would be like the Out of The Park Baseball gamers dismissing the players of The Show's franchise mode because they apparently prefer the pretty graphics over the franchise depth of OOTP.

I'm 56 years old. I was in the stands the day Lou Brock broke the single season stolen base record. I still have (somewhere) playoff ticket stubs from the '82 playoffs. And I have only played DD and RTTS in '21 so far.

Come down off your pedestals and realize that the mode a person chooses to play in this game does not define them as children, or "not real baseball fans".

We don’t care about Lou brock baseball is meant to be played 9 innings. You guys are insulting OP when much of you are in the sams boat. You guys are unicorns this games target audience has a low attention span and is hooked to DD.

[Caulfield]

Re: My little brother is this game’s target audience

We don’t care about Lou brock

lotta people care about not only Lou Brock, but even still, the likes of Bob Gibson, Ozzie Smith, Stan Musial, hundred of others. enough so that the developers think they are important enough and still relevant to be included as integral part of Diamond Dynasty

baseball is meant to be played 9 innings.

maybe. maybe not. you only need 5 innings, says right there on most ticket stubs. originally base ball was meant to be played first to 21, which usually meant on average 6 innings. sometimes you need more than 9, like such as 33 innings for instance

You guys are insulting OP when much of you are in the sams boat. You guys are unicorns this games target audience has a low attention span and is hooked to DD.

nothing wrong with being a unicorn, Sony still does want to target unicorn money also as well too. or franchise would have went the way of the obsolete Dodo

[Dolenz]

Re: My little brother is this game’s target audience

We don’t care about Lou brock baseball is meant to be played 9 innings. You guys are insulting OP when much of you are in the sams boat. You guys are unicorns this games target audience has a low attention span and is hooked to DD.

Hey, way to completely ignore the point of my post to simply say that, as a baseball "purist", you don't care about hall of fame players.

[BlueSkies77]

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The point is that those who want shorter/faster games are ruining it for those that want full 9 inning simulation type games. I’m all for people being able to play how they want with different modes. But obviously Sony is catering to the impatient masses.

I hope some day in the not so distant future that big publisher will green light their own triple A MLB game. I don’t even care if it’s EA. SDS seriously needs competition to keep them on their toes and not get even more greedy.

[Therebelyell626]

Re: My little brother is this game’s target audience

The way some on this forum seem to try and diminish the players of the other modes is a little tiring at times. The holier than thou, "we are the real baseball fans" gets annoying.

It would be like the Out of The Park Baseball gamers dismissing the players of The Show's franchise mode because they apparently prefer the pretty graphics over the franchise depth of OOTP.

I'm 56 years old. I was in the stands the day Lou Brock broke the single season stolen base record. I still have (somewhere) playoff ticket stubs from the '82 playoffs. And I have only played DD and RTTS in '21 so far.

Come down off your pedestals and realize that the mode a person chooses to play in this game does not define them as children, or "not real baseball fans".

I agree completely with you on the part that we shouldn’t throw insults or dismiss the feelings of people who play other modes.

But you’d be an absolute fool to assume DD didn’t change the direction of this franchise forever. Now whether that change is for the positive or not is up to the individual player to decide.

Most franchise guys are just fed up. A lot of us have stuck with this series year after year. Me personally since ‘06. And we have been completely left out to pasture as if we don’t matter.

The difference is I stopped caring last year and have just accepted it for what it is

[Armor and Sword]

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I think The Show offers a comprehensive suite of modes to allow players of all shapes and sizes to enjoy playing a great baseball game.

My gripes this cycle have nothing to do with March To October, or Diamond Dynasty.

Now let’s not pretend that Diamond Dynasty is not the primary focus of development in this game.....it is. Road to the Show has been vastly changed in terms of allowing you to play the mode traditionally which has been an offline single player career mode and now it has been merged/married or whatever you want to call it into my ballplayer which is used online in DD.

So there are some very unhappy folks with the design direction a beloved mode and arguably the most popular mode this game ever has had has taken a turn for the worse not better.

It is well known I play offline franchise and love the gameplay every year. Franchise mode for me has always been very solid.

But two things were taken away and SDS still has not explained nor committed to any of it returning.

Y2Y and SOTS (on next gen consoles).

I do not blame anyone that plays the game the way they love to.

I blame the trends and demographics in gaming for the lack of focus on the mode I enjoy and I still have not gotten a clear answer from anyone why they removed two HUGE key franchise features from the game. Actually make that 3 features (roster importing vaporized a decade worth of classic rosters).

That is incredibly disappointing and not typical of this studio.

I also do not like the condescending viewpoints of some so-called hardcore franchise players.

Everyone enjoys the game the way they want. But when features that are critical to your enjoyment are removed without hearing reasons???

We have every right to question it and be upset about it without getting snarky responses from elitist posters here or trolls.

The forum here is not what it once used to be.

My 2 cents.


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[Dolenz]

Re: My little brother is this game’s target audience

I agree completely with you on the part that we shouldn’t throw insults or dismiss the feelings of people who play other modes.

But you’d be an absolute fool to assume DD didn’t change the direction of this franchise forever. Now whether that change is for the positive or not is up to the individual player to decide.

Most franchise guys are just fed up. A lot of us have stuck with this series year after year. Me personally since ‘06. And we have been completely left out to pasture as if we don’t matter.

The difference is I stopped caring last year and have just accepted it for what it is

You'll have to point me to the part of my post where I was being foolish and stated that DD has not impacted the other modes.

I understand the love of franchise mode here. I am not so blind to see that the mode has received little attention in comparison to the other modes. I understand the frustration.

I was simply saying that some of the posters here, and I did not name names, want to dismiss every DD and RTTS player as some type of lesser baseball fan or that they are a child with a short attention span, simply because their definition of a fun baseball video game does not include franchise.

[Junior Moe]

Re: My little brother is this game’s target audience

A little time looking outside of OS might not be a bad idea sometimes too though. Helps to get a different perspective sometimes.

There’s room for all different play styles. Now, whether or not the devs do enough to touch each of those groups is debatable (and we know how that would go here, haha) but I’m all for the options being there for people to play as they choose.

Exactly. I had a similar experience a few years ago with my younger brother and NBA2K. I watched as him and his friends spent close to 50$ each to create different player builds to take on another squad that crushed them in the Park. I was like you dudes are crazy. But then I realized games are meant to be fun and they enjoy themselves. That's what it's about at the end of the day. Theres room for every type of gamer in "sim" sports games because it's a game at the end of the day.

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[Therebelyell626]

Re: My little brother is this game’s target audience

You'll have to point me to the part of my post where I was being foolish and stated that DD has not impacted the other modes.

I understand the love of franchise mode here. I am not so blind to see that the mode has received little attention in comparison to the other modes. I understand the frustration.

I was simply saying that some of the posters here, and I did not name names, want to dismiss every DD and RTTS player as some type of lesser baseball fan or that they are a child with a short attention span, simply because their definition of a fun baseball video game does not include franchise.

Sorry. I should have elaborated. I wasn’t insinuating that you said that dolenz. My point was to your remark that franchise guys are a little to hardcore on the enthusiasts of other modes. The point I was trying to make is that their anger may be justified, but is extremely misguided. I was agreeing with you while also trying to play devils advocate for these go hards

[Madden08PCgmr]

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I'll simply never understand the mentality of these companies.

They're eating 2/3 of their favorite meal... Robbing a bank, and only taking half the money.

I understand why they gravitate toward the pay-to-play modes. No need to explain it. Without a ton of effort, they could satisfy a portion of their audience that they have deliberately alienated. They practically go out of their way not to.

[tessl]

Re: My little brother is this game’s target audience

I agree they are catering to kids but I look at it this way. The kids are keeping the game in circulation and franchise isn't perfect but it's far better than anything else.

[Dolenz]

Re: My little brother is this game’s target audience

I agree they are catering to kids but I look at it this way. The kids are keeping the game in circulation and franchise isn't perfect but it's far better than anything else.

Define kids? I am 56 and play DD the majority of the time, with a sliver of time spent in RTTS.

I am also on year two of my franchise in the most recent version of Out Of The Park Baseball so I am not some anti franchise guy.

[Fuimus Troes]

Re: My little brother is this game’s target audience

Love it or hate it, DD is VERY well done. It's slick, and shows a love of baseball.

Also, unlike EA and other companies that do modes like this, SDS has consistently made it easier to unlock things without spending money.

And this coming from a Franchise guy who's furious that RTTS was completed nerfed and Franchise basically untouched. (Love the depth chart and jury's still out on the new trade logic, but other than that it's the same thing.)