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  • Caulfield
    Hall Of Fame
    • Apr 2011
    • 10986

    #61
    Re: Is this the worst live roster ever?

    Originally posted by PVarck31
    I just don't have the time or energy to go through every team and make sure all players are there, create them if they aren't, give them ratings and all that.

    This really shouldn't be something the consumer has to do themselves. I feel like a roster update should be out by now. I spent $85 on this game and I have to wait probably three weeks for Ridin's rosters so I can start my franchise.

    With the Indians, Jake Bauers is listed as an OF and he plays 1B in real life, but if you put him at 1B he is out of position and drops routine throws to first by infielders. I tried to change it but the same thing happens. It's the same with Yu Chang at 1B. I'll give them a break there since it's his first year playing there. I have to call up Bobby Bradley to play 1B, which he should be there anyway, Bauers is a joke.

    And the fact that you can't download anything from the vault, wow. That's crazy, and also crazy they haven't fixed it yet. Maybe they have by the time I'm writing this.

    The on-field gameplay is the best it's ever been, as well as the presentation. But other than that, and I won't even get into RTTS, the game has been very underwhelming so far.

    I guess I just have to wait for now.
    I couldn't even find Jake on the default roster (which is understandable) and on the live roster I have, he is a firstbaseman. weird.
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    • tessl
      All Star
      • Apr 2007
      • 5685

      #62
      Re: Is this the worst live roster ever?

      Originally posted by TheDarkKnightRises
      When’s the first roster update coming out?
      I have a related question. Beginning last year they changed the vault system and I had difficulty figuring it out.

      Is there a way in the vault to search for the SCEA roster updates?

      The reason I ask is because if and when I get a ps5 I will get mlbts 21 mostly for the stadium creator but that won't be for some time given the problems Sony is having producing ps5 consoles. When I do get it I'd like to start my franchise with the first live SCEA roster update. I don't understand why they change things like the vault which used to be easy to navigate.
      Last edited by tessl; 04-25-2021, 08:50 AM.

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      • Fours
        Rookie
        • May 2015
        • 245

        #63
        Re: Is this the worst live roster ever?

        Originally posted by Iron
        I created one for myself by going through the credits and searching for SDS staff members in the default roster. To Houston's point, there's been changes since he compiled his list.

        All SDS staff are in AA. Here's the breakdown of all those I found, by team. It is quite possible I missed some. I didn't bother writing down their position, just the name. I also noticed that some players were removed from the current Live roster. Those players are between brackets.

        BALTIMORE
        Brian Pinz
        Shawn Robles
        Eli Simmons
        John Tremaire

        TAMPA BAY
        Jody Kelsey
        Tawn Kramer
        Sean Ruffner

        TORONTO
        Patrick Hager
        Daniel Haisten
        Bill Kydd
        Collin Moore
        Asad Qizilbash
        Jon Ramsey
        Kyle White

        CHICAGO-A
        Danny Collado
        Adam Dickinson
        Nick Livingston
        Luis Martinez
        Victor Reynolds
        Ramone Russell
        Walter Stuart

        CLEVELAND
        Steven Abbott
        Joel Benjamin
        Franz Borowitz
        Stephen Conrad
        Doug Cloven
        Paul Hainey
        Dylan Keizan
        Clayton Ott

        KANSAS CITY
        Andrew Erdal
        Adam Hamil
        Kojo Kumah
        Tim Monk
        Christopher Serna

        MINNESOTA
        Jason Phillips

        HOUSTON
        Lorne Asuncion
        Chris Clements
        Joe Shedd

        LOS ANGELES-A
        Chris Gill
        Laine Huffman
        Kurt Kellenberger
        Keith Kelsey
        Jared Ono
        Steve Roesch

        OAKLAND
        Tim Flier
        Bryan Paquette

        TEXAS
        Kyle Blake
        John Giordano
        John Livingston
        A.C. Read
        Dale Sedenquist
        Jacob Travis
        (Chris Kopotic)

        SEATTLE
        Drew Irvine
        Ruairi McCann
        Cody Sheppard

        ATLANTA
        Kevin Weinstein
        (Steve Merka)

        MIAMI
        Stephen Hass
        Vic Romaker

        PHILADELPHIA
        Aaron Luke
        Lee Blum
        Gil Garcia
        Jerry Mendez
        (Matt Schaeffer)

        WASHINGTON
        Charles Cruz
        Larry Holland
        Phil Van Valkenberg
        (Tate Baik)

        CINCINNATI
        Andy Faraday
        Nick Hamiel
        Carson Loftus
        Payton Soicher
        (Marc Fellows)

        MILWAUKEE
        Brian Ma
        Ozzie Negrete
        Rod Penn
        (Robert Bardy)
        (Robert Fitzgerald)
        (Jeff Ullman)

        PITTSBURGH
        Michael Jones
        Joe Wilkerson

        ST.LOUIS
        Dan Enfield
        Scott Miller
        Peter Pascoal
        (Colin Anderle)
        (Gary Weis)

        ARIZONA
        Ian Mills
        Craig Ostrander
        Sito Francisco

        COLORADO
        Marcus Efting

        LOS ANGELES-N
        Nick Clements
        Loren Colcol
        Travis Hayden
        Mike McDonald
        Kyle Saul
        Tejas Shah
        Joaquin Zarco
        (Chris Cutliff)

        SAN DIEGO
        Daniel Acevedo
        Bri Birl
        Brian Hendley
        Darin Hoffman
        Chris Muriel
        Dre Overstreet
        Scott Rohde
        Jason Villa
        Jaxxon Whittaker
        (Eric Heim)

        SAN FRANCISCO
        Mike Compton
        (Kirby St. John)
        What an incredibly self indulgent group.. They're riding the coattails of the developers that created the masterpiece that this game used to be. The current group has done nothing but implement poorly thought out features, and ignore the community.

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        • Caulfield
          Hall Of Fame
          • Apr 2011
          • 10986

          #64
          Re: Is this the worst live roster ever?

          Originally posted by Fours
          What an incredibly self indulgent group.. They're riding the coattails of the developers that created the masterpiece that this game used to be. The current group has done nothing but implement poorly thought out features, and ignore the community.
          a lot of these have been in the Show, and with the Studio, for years and years and years. some have even been with Sony since the 989 days. some even aren't developers, just gamers that the Studio scanned.
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          • Fours
            Rookie
            • May 2015
            • 245

            #65
            Re: Is this the worst live roster ever?

            Originally posted by Caulfield
            a lot of these have been in the Show, and with the Studio, for years and years and years. some have even been with Sony since the 989 days. some even aren't developers, just gamers that the Studio scanned.
            And some sports games use rosters with only professional athletes on them. You know the ones they get the license for so that people will buy the game..

            It should be a non issue, but they were goofing off scanning their buddy instead of taking the 90 seconds required to test the roster vault.

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            • TuffJuff
              Rookie
              • Jan 2011
              • 343

              #66
              Re: Is this the worst live roster ever?

              Its worse than just prospects that have the wrong age. MLB players like Casey Mize and Luis Severino are wrong too. Yankees SP Clarke Schmidt is 2 years younger than he should be. This is a joke
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              • Caulfield
                Hall Of Fame
                • Apr 2011
                • 10986

                #67
                Re: Is this the worst live roster ever?

                Originally posted by Fours
                And some sports games use rosters with only professional athletes on them. You know the ones they get the license for so that people will buy the game..

                It should be a non issue, but they were goofing off scanning their buddy instead of taking the 90 seconds required to test the roster vault.
                the biggest difference in baseball and other sports might be in that the Show has to fill not just the major leagues
                but 3 other levels totalling over 2000 players as well as a couple hundred free agent slots as well.
                I don't think you'll see that amount (over 2000) in Madden or NBA2k.
                can't really speak to association football as I'm woefully ignorant on subject.
                I don't condone the way the Studio does the minor leagues
                (see my whole rant on the Single A roster in 20. and 21 is an exact repeat performance)
                but it is what is FBOW

                at least we can import over anyone we don't want in the Show (looking at you, Bryce Harper).
                can players in Madden or 2k be overwritten now?
                seriously dunno, 's why I'm asking. I'd love to replay the 81-82 NFL & NBA season
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                • Therebelyell626
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2018
                  • 2892

                  #68
                  Re: Is this the worst live roster ever?

                  Originally posted by Caulfield
                  a lot of these have been in the Show, and with the Studio, for years and years and years. some have even been with Sony since the 989 days. some even aren't developers, just gamers that the Studio scanned.
                  Yeah... Scott Spindler 3rd baseman on the Phillies is actually “Ridindownkingsley” aka “Ridin” of Ridins Rosters fame. He has a face scan to

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                  • Jeffrey Smith
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 1925

                    #69
                    Re: Is this the worst live roster ever?

                    Personally I don’t mind having the developers in game. I’m not a stickler for “full” minors. Top 50-100 is fine to me.

                    I actually trade for a couple of the more well known developers in my franchise. Hahahahaa


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                    • Nomah5
                      Pro
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 845

                      #70
                      Re: Is this the worst live roster ever?

                      It’s fun when every matchup played with live rosters has both teams on double digit win streaks. 😂

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                      • Caulfield
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 10986

                        #71
                        Re: Is this the worst live roster ever?

                        Originally posted by Jeffrey Smith
                        Personally I don’t mind having the developers in game. I’m not a stickler for “full” minors. Top 50-100 is fine to me.

                        I actually trade for a couple of the more well known developers in my franchise. Hahahahaa


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                        yeah, I remember back in the day Tampa had this great second base prospect from right here in Bama,
                        hailed from the same stomping grounds as legends Henry Aaron & Ozzie Smith.
                        I often wonder whatever became of that feller. :wink:
                        now those were some great rosters lol

                        EDIT: oh, I see he's still kicking around in the White Sox organisation
                        Last edited by Caulfield; 04-25-2021, 05:14 PM.
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                        • The_Subspace_Mariner
                          Rookie
                          • Apr 2019
                          • 79

                          #72
                          Re: Is this the worst live roster ever?

                          Originally posted by Iron
                          I created one for myself by going through the credits and searching for SDS staff members in the default roster. To Houston's point, there's been changes since he compiled his list.

                          All SDS staff are in AA. Here's the breakdown of all those I found, by team. It is quite possible I missed some. I didn't bother writing down their position, just the name. I also noticed that some players were removed from the current Live roster. Those players are between brackets.

                          BALTIMORE
                          Brian Pinz
                          Shawn Robles
                          Eli Simmons
                          John Tremaire

                          TAMPA BAY
                          Jody Kelsey
                          Tawn Kramer
                          Sean Ruffner

                          TORONTO
                          Patrick Hager
                          Daniel Haisten
                          Bill Kydd
                          Collin Moore
                          Asad Qizilbash
                          Jon Ramsey
                          Kyle White

                          CHICAGO-A
                          Danny Collado
                          Adam Dickinson
                          Nick Livingston
                          Luis Martinez
                          Victor Reynolds
                          Ramone Russell
                          Walter Stuart

                          CLEVELAND
                          Steven Abbott
                          Joel Benjamin
                          Franz Borowitz
                          Stephen Conrad
                          Doug Cloven
                          Paul Hainey
                          Dylan Keizan
                          Clayton Ott

                          KANSAS CITY
                          Andrew Erdal
                          Adam Hamil
                          Kojo Kumah
                          Tim Monk
                          Christopher Serna

                          MINNESOTA
                          Jason Phillips

                          HOUSTON
                          Lorne Asuncion
                          Chris Clements
                          Joe Shedd

                          LOS ANGELES-A
                          Chris Gill
                          Laine Huffman
                          Kurt Kellenberger
                          Keith Kelsey
                          Jared Ono
                          Steve Roesch

                          OAKLAND
                          Tim Flier
                          Bryan Paquette

                          TEXAS
                          Kyle Blake
                          John Giordano
                          John Livingston
                          A.C. Read
                          Dale Sedenquist
                          Jacob Travis
                          (Chris Kopotic)

                          SEATTLE
                          Drew Irvine
                          Ruairi McCann
                          Cody Sheppard

                          ATLANTA
                          Kevin Weinstein
                          (Steve Merka)

                          MIAMI
                          Stephen Hass
                          Vic Romaker

                          PHILADELPHIA
                          Aaron Luke
                          Lee Blum
                          Gil Garcia
                          Jerry Mendez
                          (Matt Schaeffer)

                          WASHINGTON
                          Charles Cruz
                          Larry Holland
                          Phil Van Valkenberg
                          (Tate Baik)

                          CINCINNATI
                          Andy Faraday
                          Nick Hamiel
                          Carson Loftus
                          Payton Soicher
                          (Marc Fellows)

                          MILWAUKEE
                          Brian Ma
                          Ozzie Negrete
                          Rod Penn
                          (Robert Bardy)
                          (Robert Fitzgerald)
                          (Jeff Ullman)

                          PITTSBURGH
                          Michael Jones
                          Joe Wilkerson

                          ST.LOUIS
                          Dan Enfield
                          Scott Miller
                          Peter Pascoal
                          (Colin Anderle)
                          (Gary Weis)

                          ARIZONA
                          Ian Mills
                          Craig Ostrander
                          Sito Francisco

                          COLORADO
                          Marcus Efting

                          LOS ANGELES-N
                          Nick Clements
                          Loren Colcol
                          Travis Hayden
                          Mike McDonald
                          Kyle Saul
                          Tejas Shah
                          Joaquin Zarco
                          (Chris Cutliff)

                          SAN DIEGO
                          Daniel Acevedo
                          Bri Birl
                          Brian Hendley
                          Darin Hoffman
                          Chris Muriel
                          Dre Overstreet
                          Scott Rohde
                          Jason Villa
                          Jaxxon Whittaker
                          (Eric Heim)

                          SAN FRANCISCO
                          Mike Compton
                          (Kirby St. John)
                          I'm seeing virtually none of those guys in my roster.
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                          • KnightTemplar
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2017
                            • 3282

                            #73
                            Re: Is this the worst live roster ever?

                            Originally posted by The_Subspace_Mariner
                            I'm seeing virtually none of those guys in my roster.
                            All of them are in the default roster (PS5).

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                            • jada855
                              Pro
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 943

                              #74
                              Re: Is this the worst live roster ever?

                              Originally posted by PVarck31
                              I just don't have the time or energy to go through every team and make sure all players are there, create them if they aren't, give them ratings and all that.

                              This really shouldn't be something the consumer has to do themselves. I feel like a roster update should be out by now. I spent $85 on this game and I have to wait probably three weeks for Ridin's rosters so I can start my franchise.

                              With the Indians, Jake Bauers is listed as an OF and he plays 1B in real life, but if you put him at 1B he is out of position and drops routine throws to first by infielders. I tried to change it but the same thing happens. It's the same with Yu Chang at 1B. I'll give them a break there since it's his first year playing there. I have to call up Bobby Bradley to play 1B, which he should be there anyway, Bauers is a joke.

                              And the fact that you can't download anything from the vault, wow. That's crazy, and also crazy they haven't fixed it yet. Maybe they have by the time I'm writing this.

                              The on-field gameplay is the best it's ever been, as well as the presentation. But other than that, and I won't even get into RTTS, the game has been very underwhelming so far.

                              I guess I just have to wait for now.
                              Straight FACTS!
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                              • forme95
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2013
                                • 3118

                                #75
                                Re: Is this the worst live roster ever?

                                Live rosters..... OOTB rosters are the biggest joke! HOW after a season starts, you release a game with rosters that messed up. The ONLY thing I like about the rosters is the lower ratings.
                                Really wish sports games played to ratings!
                                Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
                                CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
                                MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
                                Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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