Ramone Russell confirms "You will be able to use Shohei Ohtani the exact same way the

[breakfastcat]

He says it was a multi-year effort to rewrite the code to allow it to happen.

From the Flippin' Bats podcast:

https://twitter.com/FlippinBatsPod/status/1491508451104595968?s=20&t=Kz_Osq8S1jLJQ7VrMFfRog

[ninertravel]

Re: Ramone Russell confirms "You will be able to use Shohei Ohtani the exact same way

SO does this mean he will NOT be counted as a pitcher on the 26 man roster?? because the Angles always got screwed with this for the roster because of the 13 pitcher min so they were always stuck at 25 man roster instead because you couldnt have the 6th man in the rotation.

[Caulfield]

Re: Ramone Russell confirms "You will be able to use Shohei Ohtani the exact same way

I thought this was gonna be a discussion about how you can use Shohei the same way the Angels used/use Pujols and Trout: waste their prime.

well, alright, maybe not so much Albert, his prime went to good use in St. Looey lol

[ninertravel]

Re: Ramone Russell confirms "You will be able to use Shohei Ohtani the exact same way

I thought this was gonna be a discussion about how you can use Shohei the same way the Angels used/use Pujols and Trout: waste their prime.

well, alright, maybe not so much Albert, his prime went to good use in St. Looey lol

and Rendon. it must be frustrating as hell for Angels fans. they have players that are fun to watch but a 500 team because they just won't go for pitching.

[CBoller1331]

Re: Ramone Russell confirms "You will be able to use Shohei Ohtani the exact same way

I have a suspicion that they were talking specifically about Diamond Dynasty in this clip...but my guess is that they did re-write some code for Ohtani in franchise as well. It would make sense to get the cover athlete's role right going into franchise mode.

[Jeffrey Smith]

Re: Ramone Russell confirms "You will be able to use Shohei Ohtani the exact same way

I have a suspicion that they were talking specifically about Diamond Dynasty in this clip...but my guess is that they did re-write some code for Ohtani in franchise as well. It would make sense to get the cover athlete's role right going into franchise mode.

Yes, hopefully in franchise and not just MtO.


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[ninertravel]

Re: Ramone Russell confirms "You will be able to use Shohei Ohtani the exact same way

I have a suspicion that they were talking specifically about Diamond Dynasty in this clip...but my guess is that they did re-write some code for Ohtani in franchise as well. It would make sense to get the cover athlete's role right going into franchise mode.

well hopefully he doesn't count as a pitcher slot. and a actual 2 way player otherwise yet again we can't use the 6 man rotation with the Angels or we have to do the send up send down trick manually again.

[BigOscar]

Re: Ramone Russell confirms "You will be able to use Shohei Ohtani the exact same way

I'm a bit confused, doesn't that just mean a pitcher who DH's? Why would that take multiple years to program? Just let any player DH, regardless of position (which I think was in last year?) Yeah you need to also fix the stamina so they aren't always tired, but SDS never seems to mind that anyway, especially not in the playoffs.

Unless it means DD, but in DD there is no DH so Ohtani hits when he pitches anyway? Unless I suppose it means they've added the DH and he can be your DH in the games he doesn't start? But that's increeeedibly niche as it would require people to want him in their starting rotation AND to be their DH, which in DD seems pretty unlikely given the amount of options?

[breakfastcat]

Re: Ramone Russell confirms "You will be able to use Shohei Ohtani the exact same way

I thought this was gonna be a discussion about how you can use Shohei the same way the Angels used/use Pujols and Trout: waste their prime.

well, alright, maybe not so much Albert, his prime went to good use in St. Looey lol

Damn, can't say I was expecting to catch strays when making this post.

[ninertravel]

Re: Ramone Russell confirms "You will be able to use Shohei Ohtani the exact same way

I'm a bit confused, doesn't that just mean a pitcher who DH's? Why would that take multiple years to program? Just let any player DH, regardless of position (which I think was in last year?) Yeah you need to also fix the stamina so they aren't always tired, but SDS never seems to mind that anyway, especially not in the playoffs.

Unless it means DD, but in DD there is no DH so Ohtani hits when he pitches anyway? Unless I suppose it means they've added the DH and he can be your DH in the games he doesn't start? But that's increeeedibly niche as it would require people to want him in their starting rotation AND to be their DH, which in DD seems pretty unlikely given the amount of options?

I think the problem has always been he HAS been a pitcher in the game all the time (except for 2020 when they changed him to RF for 1 month) and just a pitcher that you could put at DH. so he always counted as a pitcher roster spot for the angels so you couldn't keep 14 pitchers. You could put any pitcher at DH anyway Ohtani was never a 'special' case for this. even the edit menu didn't even say 'yes' under two way player it has never worked the way it should.

So I am hoping that this means he is unique and BOTH a position player and a pitcher. and doesn't count on the list as a pitcher spot in the roster and actually a true two way player. so that when you go to line-up screen he shows as a 1st base not a P.. and that when he pitchers he is a pitcher in the rotation with pitching attributes.. this is what it should be. we shall see though.

[DanH35]

Re: Ramone Russell confirms "You will be able to use Shohei Ohtani the exact same way

Unless it means DD, but in DD there is no DH so Ohtani hits when he pitches anyway? Unless I suppose it means they've added the DH and he can be your DH in the games he doesn't start? But that's increeeedibly niche as it would require people to want him in their starting rotation AND to be their DH, which in DD seems pretty unlikely given the amount of options?

If he's talking about DD, it's actually a pretty big change. The way it is now, if you used a card of him as a pitcher, he basically could only be used as a pitcher. He had a OF secondary position, but you couldn't start him out there and in most cases, couldn't even put him in the OF as a sub. If you pinch hit with him, you were forced to keep him in to pitch the next inning. If you used his OF card, he could only be a position player, you couldn't use him to pitch. If it does change this year, I could see a lot of benefits. If he starts as a pitcher it could be possible to move him to the outfield when you want to bring in a reliever. Or if he is on your bench, you can use him as just a pinch hitter if you don't want him to pitch.

[Karle]

Re: Ramone Russell confirms "You will be able to use Shohei Ohtani the exact same way

So as I understand it the code was rewritten so Ohtani can begin the season as a two way player. My question is:

Is this rewrite only specific to him? Is it possible for a roster creator to create another two way player or must all others go through the 20/20 process? In theory the player could have earned the right to be a two way player the previous year. However, I suspect it only applies to Ohtani. In the early years of the National League it was much more common to see two way players.

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[Kccitystar]

Re: Ramone Russell confirms "You will be able to use Shohei Ohtani the exact same way

So as I understand it the code was rewritten so Ohtani can begin the season as a two way player. My question is:

Is this rewrite only specific to him? Is it possible for a roster creator to create another two way player or must all others go through the 20/20 process? In theory the player could have earned the right to be a two way player the previous year. However, I suspect it only applies to Ohtani. In the early years of the National League it was much more common to see two way players.

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I don't think the rewrite is specific to him, I think that this change impacts how the AI in the game utilizes two way players across all modes and how you can use those players in DD.

[MetsFan16]

Re: Ramone Russell confirms "You will be able to use Shohei Ohtani the exact same way

This is good news. Hopefully it is for Franchise and not just DD because in franchise Shohei is nowhere near as valuable as he is in real life.

The biggest thing I see with him in franchise is his energy is always drained. So on his days to pitch he can only go 4 innings. And after pitching his offense suffers.

Hopefully energy/durability as a whole is reworked and made separate attributes

[eric7064]

Re: Ramone Russell confirms "You will be able to use Shohei Ohtani the exact same way

Just confusing to me.

Is this franchise related? Because last year they added the 2 way player icon to Ohtani and actually made it obtainable if other players reached a threshold of innings of playing "out of position".

Yet the way the 2 way players were used was still not done right. Ohtani was still getting rocked every start because his stamina was never close to 100% before a start.

So was that "feature" addition a load of crap last year? NOW it will work?