MLB The Show 22 Gameplay - Nuance Over Overhaul

[LastActionHero]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Feature Premiere - Gameplay Updates (Discuss Here)

New diving catches
New plays at the wall
Perfect throws to any base


Yes, Yes, and YES!


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Yeah good stuff, unfortunately they only mentioned new diving catches at the end of the stream with no video to show some of them but we’ll see in April.

Now that we have perfect throws to any base I think next year would be perfect to combine analog throwing with the button accuracy meter.
I mean if you push the R stick up true north (2nd base) a perfect throw would be the outcome and you could see it in real time on the meter if you’re holding it steady….and maybe you could even correct it on the fly while the throw is preloading.

Same goes for the other bases, analog controls just seem perfect for a marriage with the button accuracy meter now more than ever if you ask me.

[Mercury112491]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Gameplay - Nuance Over Overhaul

So much of this stuff is aimed at the casualer player versus player group. Frustrating.

In what way? Everything they announced was all to make a better game of baseball. Nothing was aimed at the DD community


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[JoshC1977]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Gameplay - Nuance Over Overhaul

So much of this stuff is aimed at the casualer player versus player group. Frustrating.

You're a bit off-base here IMO, the people tuning into the streams are your hardcore players (both online and offline) that invest 100s/1000s of hours playing the game - not casual players. Now, SDS' tone doesn't exactly marry-up with that - which is one of the failings of their streams. The hardcore PVP community was also roasting SDS' presentation on Twitter (indicating that much of the stream content was geared to newer players). I don't think that is entirely true, but I think SDS' tone is just a bit off-the-mark and leads to that misconception.

[MetsFan16]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Gameplay - Nuance Over Overhaul

Any time I see more realism and true to life animations and game mechanics I’m happy.

The dynamic PCI hopefully will cause me to strikeout more (I always lead the lead in fewest Ks) and it should also get me more K while pitching (I’m always last in the league with the fewest Ks)

The decreased PAR doesn’t affect me bc I don’t aim for high off speeds.

Perfect throw to every base is going to be fun and add an extra element.

Less Olè plays down at the corner infielders is a dream. That animation is so overplayed and always comes at the worst time no matter who your fielder is.

All in all, solid stream

[lemarflacco]

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You're a bit off-base here IMO, the people tuning into the streams are your hardcore players (both online and offline) that invest 100s/1000s of hours playing the game - not casual players. Now, SDS' tone doesn't exactly marry-up with that - which is one of the failings of their streams. The hardcore PVP community was also roasting SDS' presentation on Twitter (indicating that much of the stream content was geared to newer players). I don't think that is entirely true, but I think SDS' tone is just a bit off-the-mark and leads to that misconception.

Dude spent 10 mins talking about how you need to swing earlier to get to the inside pitch lol That literally seemed like a tutorial for ppl unfamiliar with the game.

All the things PCI related where geared towards "ppl online complaining". They mentioned that it was done because ppl were frustrated that they other ppl were able to found their pitches off.

Cool, we got new animations but isn't that like the standard at this point. New year, new system with more memory, Im expecting they add new animations. (and I don't expect much).

I'm also curious to know how many sim offline players use the pci system/directional hitting. I always use stride. PCI is a little to arcade for me and then I need to zoom in all the way to get best results etc.

Just my opinions though. Like even when they talk about realism , they are like explaining it the viewer in a way to tell them its not going to ruin their fun lol Like it just literally seems like when they make they video they are aiming it towards a pvp/online player.

[jcar0725]

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Dude spent 10 mins talking about how you need to swing earlier to get to the inside pitch lol That literally seemed like a tutorial for ppl unfamiliar with the game.

All the things PCI related where geared towards "ppl online complaining". They mentioned that it was done because ppl were frustrated that they other ppl were able to found their pitches off.

Cool, we got new animations but isn't that like the standard at this point. New year, new system with more memory, Im expecting they add new animations. (and I don't expect much).

I'm also curious to know how many sim offline players use the pci system/directional hitting. I always use stride. PCI is a little to arcade for me and then I need to zoom in all the way to get best results etc.

Just my opinions though. Like even when they talk about realism , they are like explaining it the viewer in a way to tell them its not going to ruin their fun lol Like it just literally seems like when they make they video they are aiming it towards a pvp/online player.

There were definitely parts of the video that seemed like a tutorial for new players unfamiliar with the game. But I'm not sure why that's such a bad thing. It was geared towards other newish players. Not everything has to be exactly WHAT I WANT lol

[strosdood]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Gameplay - Nuance Over Overhaul

Dude spent 10 mins talking about how you need to swing earlier to get to the inside pitch lol That literally seemed like a tutorial for ppl unfamiliar with the game.



All the things PCI related where geared towards "ppl online complaining". They mentioned that it was done because ppl were frustrated that they other ppl were able to found their pitches off.



Cool, we got new animations but isn't that like the standard at this point. New year, new system with more memory, Im expecting they add new animations. (and I don't expect much).



I'm also curious to know how many sim offline players use the pci system/directional hitting. I always use stride. PCI is a little to arcade for me and then I need to zoom in all the way to get best results etc.



Just my opinions though. Like even when they talk about realism , they are like explaining it the viewer in a way to tell them its not going to ruin their fun lol Like it just literally seems like when they make they video they are aiming it towards a pvp/online player.

If they changed the dynamic of how u hit, then wouldn’t explaining that be geared towards all players and not just casuals since it’s a newly added feature so even hardcore The Show guys wouldn’t be completely familiar?


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[JoshC1977]

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Dude spent 10 mins talking about how you need to swing earlier to get to the inside pitch lol That literally seemed like a tutorial for ppl unfamiliar with the game.

That's what I was talking about....SDS' tone was off the mark for the hardcore players that were the target audience for these streams (both offline and online players alike). As I am sure you know, casuals are not the ones watching streams or engaging on social media/forums.

[jcar0725]

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That's what I was talking about....SDS' tone was off the mark for the hardcore players that were the target audience for these streams (both offline and online players alike). As I am sure you know, casuals are not the ones watching streams or engaging on social media/forums.

Fair point. I guess i just tuned out during those moments didn't think it was a big deal.

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[sbmnky]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Gameplay - Nuance Over Overhaul

By explaining the new (dynamic PCI size and anchor) and unchanged hitting mechanics they are talking to both the new player (hey, this is how hitting works) and the competitive player (yo, your frustration is expected because we are trying to balance hitting across skill levels and difficulties to make sure our statistics are in line with real life MLB).

I mostly play DD now and I'm into the changes they presented in the stream. However, I do wish they would rebuild hitting for competitive online play (in DD forum, I advocated for an MLBTS competitor that would view baseball through a different lens, but I think having a separate hitting engine for competitive gameplay makes more sense.)

eSports or competitive gameplay should be based exclusively on user input - ratings can impact PCI size (hitting) or PAR size (pitching). Competitive gameplay shouldn't try to mirror real-life MLB statistics.

[jeffy777]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Feature Premiere - Gameplay Updates (Discuss Here)

Yeah good stuff, unfortunately they only mentioned new diving catches at the end of the stream with no video to show some of them but we’ll see in April.

Now that we have perfect throws to any base I think next year would be perfect to combine analog throwing with the button accuracy meter.
I mean if you push the R stick up true north (2nd base) a perfect throw would be the outcome and you could see it in real time on the meter if you’re holding it steady….and maybe you could even correct it on the fly while the throw is preloading.

Same goes for the other bases, analog controls just seem perfect for a marriage with the button accuracy meter now more than ever if you ask me.

I really hope so. Anything to make it more of a challenge.

I love the idea of rewarding a perfect throw, but my issue is that the throwing meter is too easy and also doesn't scale with difficulty settings so I usually just end up turning it off after a few games otherwise I rarely see any throwing errors.

[lemarflacco]

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There were definitely parts of the video that seemed like a tutorial for new players unfamiliar with the game. But I'm not sure why that's such a bad thing. It was geared towards other newish players. Not everything has to be exactly WHAT I WANT lol

Lol Thats what I said in the first post. It was a little frustrating to me. That was all lol Didn't say I wasn't buying the game or bashing the devs lol

[countryboy]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Gameplay - Nuance Over Overhaul

I'm really curious to see how the dynamic PCI and changes to PAR play out over the course of a season. Wondering what changes, if any at all, stats it leads to.

[lemarflacco]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Gameplay - Nuance Over Overhaul

Also curious as to what hitting system ppl use who play full 162's? Ive always use the stick with stride.I like the ability to have a clean screen and Makes me feel more like im swinging while also letting the player ratings play their role.

[jcar0725]

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Lol Thats what I said in the first post. It was a little frustrating to me. That was all lol Didn't say I wasn't buying the game or bashing the devs lol

It's all good