MLB The Show 22 Features New Commentary Team of Jon Sciambi and Chris Singleton

[PVarck31]

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I like it. It's still somewhat fresh for me. Have they added new commentary? I honestly haven't noticed that much. But I do like their voices. I also do agree it needs to be more stat oriented.

I do like the fact they mentions every players name when they make a play, not just that ball is hit to the left fielder.

I wish they were able to get them to say Steven Kwan's name though.

[Blzer]

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Unfortunately, it'll never happen. Madden did a 1 man booth with a voice actor for years, and most people (including this forum) hated it. I liked it and was sad to see it go, but I was very much in the minority. I don't see another mainstream sports game going that route any time soon, unfortunately.

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You pigeonholed the argument way too much, though. Did you hear that "one man booth" in Madden? They put on a radio filter and he spoke like a hockey announcer with extremely short phrases left dead air where you would otherwise hear color. It didn't resemble anything you would hear or see on any frequency ever.

Now I personally don't want a one-man booth, but like many things in life and video games we can't use a poor example of something to indicate why something failed. This is why our education system can't figure **** out either.

In only watching gameplay from this year's game, it still needs work and real broadcasters need to find a way to still sound like real broadcasters. Sciambi and Singleton weren't my first choice, but they can make it work over time. An on-field correspondent wouldn't be terrible, but it is always only a matter of time before they just start repeating what they say and provide nothing of actual substance.

[DonkeyJote]

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You pigeonholed the argument way too much, though. Did you hear that "one man booth" in Madden? They put on a radio filter and he spoke like a hockey announcer with extremely short phrases left dead air where you would otherwise hear color. It didn't resemble anything you would hear or see on any frequency ever.



Now I personally don't want a one-man booth, but like many things in life and video games we can't use a poor example of something to indicate why something failed. This is why our education system can't figure **** out either.

Weird old man swipe at the education system there. I did hear that one man booth. And like I said, I personally liked it. But nowhere did I say it couldn't work. I said it likely wouldn't be tried. Because mainstream developers aren't going to want to try and do something out of the box that's already failed, regardless of the reason it failed. Especially given that one man commentary is almost unheard of in sports today





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[Blzer]

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Weird old man swipe at the education system there. I did hear that one man booth. And like I said, I personally liked it. But nowhere did I say it couldn't work. I said it likely wouldn't be tried. Because mainstream developers aren't going to want to try and do something out of the box that's already failed, regardless of the reason it failed. Especially given that one man commentary is almost unheard of in sports today

I made my "old man swipe" (it was opposite of that, actually) because exactly what you said in bold is how the wrong people in power sometimes think. You cannot ignore the reason when considering the outcome. The narrative needs shifting in these circumstances. If you want to know, my swipe was when parts in the system go: "We tried something, executed it poorly, it didn't work, so we'll revert back to our old ways instead of trying to fix what we did wrong."

I don't disagree that one-man booths are an archaic way of doing things (except for the game type, budgetary concerns, etc. like in the LLWS game that we have or the more recent MLB Power Pros games), but if you think somebody is going to look at what Madden did and say that because of their poor lack of execution then one-man booths cannot work, that is terribly misguided. I think people know the problem wasn't that it was a one-man booth.

Do you think that because Albert Pujols, Barry Zito, David Price, Prince Fielder, Robinson Cano, and Stephen Strasburg were failed megadeals of the modern era that they won't keep offering them to players? No, they wised up and learned how to improve them. Sign them younger, frontload their contracts, tread softly on pitchers, and only add extra years if it takes that same guarantee away from a competitor who will beat you with them now. From time to time you'll still see some busts, but megadeals won't go away.

All this being said, I will echo once again that I would not want a one-man booth, even if it was highly regarded and very effective.

[Caulfield]

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...I will echo once again that I would not want a one-man booth, even if it was highly regarded and very effective.

how about a one man booth where the play-by-play guy is a voice actor instead of a real broadcast announcer, and uses a couple different voices, one for play-by-play and one for color commentary lol

I just think Sony would be better served moving towards someone who is always readily available to record additional lines for commentary updates. or, I wonder if two voice actors would be less expensive than two guys like Boog and Singleton. then again, guys like Boog and Singleton, Vasgersian, DeRosa, et al may actually be less expensive than voice actors
*shrug*
maybe the real problem IS in the act of getting these real announcers to record additional commentary.

[KnightTemplar]

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how about a one man booth where the play-by-play guy is a voice actor instead of a real broadcast announcer, and uses a couple different voices, one for play-by-play and one for color commentary lol

maybe the real problem IS in the act of getting these real announcers to record additional commentary.

If we continue to complain about the commentary then it should make sense to have somebody in house. Heck, a dev could do it. Why do we need real announcers if it’s a problem? I know SDS is trying to shoot for realism, but maybe drop the personal player comments. I marvel when I hear them say “he got 3 hits yesterday”, or “he hasn’t pitched in 4 days”.

Personally I don’t have a problem with the announcing. Gave up my privilege card long ago. I sit during my daily game and think “how the heck do they do that?” Game is that good.

[Caulfield]

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If we continue to complain about the commentary it then it should make sense to have somebody in house. Heck, a dev could do it. Why do we need real announcers if it’s a problem? I know SDS is trying to shoot for realism, but maybe drop the personal player comments. I marvel when I hear them say “he got 3 hits yesterday”, or “he hasn’t pitched in 4 days”.

Personally I don’t have a problem with the announcing. Gave up my privilege card long ago. I sit during my daily game and think “how the heck do they do that?” Game is that good.

yep. absolutely.
for me personally, good, bad, or ugly, whatever the direction announcing in any sports title heads, isn't gonna influence or sway me either way to buy, or to pass.
it's just about as low as a priority can be, for my personal taste.

as far as the Show goes, I'm more than fine with playing only 1 game out of 7 with commentary on. I prefer not to be distracted with chatter while I'm on the mound, and most certainly not when my lame self is at the dish trying to do something, anything , constructive.

but on the off chance I am playing with commentary on, it would be nice if it was done in a fashion as best as humanly possible

[jcar0725]

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If we continue to complain about the commentary it then it should make sense to have somebody in house. Heck, a dev could do it. Why do we need real announcers if it’s a problem? I know SDS is trying to shoot for realism, but maybe drop the personal player comments. I marvel when I hear them say “he got 3 hits yesterday”, or “he hasn’t pitched in 4 days”.

Personally I don’t have a problem with the announcing. Gave up my privilege card long ago. I sit during my daily game and think “how the heck do they do that?” Game is that good.

Its a fair point. I dont care who's actually speaking, nor do I care about story telling. All I really care to hear are things that are happening currently in my franchise, or facts about a specific player. It would seem that they're trying to make commentary work for both franchise AND those just casually loading up exhibition games.

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[DonkeyJote]

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I think I figured out why I don't really like commentary. They talk over the pitch too much. Which is distracting when you're trying to see the pitch. That's not unrealistic, as the national broadcasts (FOX/ESPN) do this a ton (though a lot of announcers will often not talk for the actual pitch most of the time). But when you're watching a game, you're not trying to pick up the pitch like you are if you're playing the Show. I think that's one area where it could stand to improve.

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