MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

Collapse

Recommended Videos

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • countryboy
    Growing pains
    • Sep 2003
    • 52707

    #91
    MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

    Originally posted by tessl
    It appears to be a way to gimmick your budget if minor leaguers don't count toward the budget.



    They are moving in the direction is a simplistic franchise mode which I suppose appeals to a lot of people who don't want to replicate MLB.


    You do realize that is how it works in real life?

    The budget comprises of the players on the 40 man roster, injured reserve and other player benefits (deferred money)

    Team salaries/payroll tgat are mentioned don’t include players tgat don’t fit the aforementioned status

    Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
    Last edited by countryboy; 03-26-2022, 06:33 PM.
    I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

    I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


    Louisville Cardinals/St.Louis Cardinals

    Comment

    • tessl
      All Star
      • Apr 2007
      • 5676

      #92
      Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

      Originally posted by kehlis
      I don't suppose you plan on replying to any of the other many responses you got about your question that also make a lot of sense for why people like season mode?
      They like it because it doesn't replicate actual MLB. That is clear. They could just as easily put the option to shorten the season in franchise but they chose to create an entire new mode full of gimmicks.

      Did I misinterpret what people said about why they like MTO? They don't want to play 162.

      Comment

      • tessl
        All Star
        • Apr 2007
        • 5676

        #93
        Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

        Originally posted by countryboy
        You do realize that is how it works in real life?

        The budget comprises of the players on the 40 man roster, injured reserve and other player benefits (deferred money)

        Team salaries/payroll tgat are mentioned don’t include players tgat don’t fit the aforementioned status

        Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
        IRL if a team signs a player for a huge bonus they don't have to pay the money if he is in the minor leagues? I didn't realize that.

        Comment

        • countryboy
          Growing pains
          • Sep 2003
          • 52707

          #94
          Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

          Originally posted by tessl
          IRL if a team signs a player for a huge bonus they don't have to pay the money if he is in the minor leagues? I didn't realize that.


          That’s not what I was saying.

          A teams budget/payroll that counts towards the CBT is comprised of the AAV of all players on the 40 man roster, players on mlb injured reserve and any additional player benefits (ex deferred money)

          That is what mlb 22 is doing this year meaning it’s more realistic and not “dumbed down for math challenged people “


          Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
          I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

          I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


          Louisville Cardinals/St.Louis Cardinals

          Comment

          • Funkycorm
            Cleveland Baseball Guru
            • Nov 2016
            • 3159

            #95
            Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

            Originally posted by tessl
            They like it because it doesn't replicate actual MLB. That is clear. They could just as easily put the option to shorten the season in franchise but they chose to create an entire new mode full of gimmicks.

            Did I misinterpret what people said about why they like MTO? They don't want to play 162.
            I would say the opposite here. Your statement about it not replicating real MLB is off base. If I play a single season replay from a previous seasons, the CPU runs the risk of calling up a player that didn't play that year or is a fake player. So I would say in these scenarios they care a lot about replicating what happened in the past in baseball.
            Funkycorm

            Currently Playing:

            MLB The Show 25 (PS5)
            Red Dead Redemption 2 (PS4)
            Pokemon Violet (Switch)


            Twitch:

            Twitch


            Dynasties:

            None at the moment

            Comment

            • PVarck31
              Moderator
              • Jan 2003
              • 16869

              #96
              Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

              Originally posted by bryanm1982
              There was one game long time ago that if you push X to raise the level. The higher it goes the higher chance you get thrown out. If you get thrown out, you wouldn’t be able to manage your bullpen in that game.
              Believe that was MVP baseball.

              Comment

              • canes21
                Hall Of Fame
                • Sep 2008
                • 22906

                #97
                Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

                Originally posted by PVarck31
                Believe that was MVP baseball.
                Was a thing in 2k also.
                “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


                ― Plato

                Comment

                • tessl
                  All Star
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 5676

                  #98
                  Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

                  Originally posted by countryboy
                  That’s not what I was saying.

                  A teams budget/payroll that counts towards the CBT is comprised of the AAV of all players on the 40 man roster, players on mlb injured reserve and any additional player benefits (ex deferred money)

                  That is what mlb 22 is doing this year meaning it’s more realistic and not “dumbed down for math challenged people “


                  Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
                  This is supposed to be franchise mode. You are running a MLB team and A, AA and AAA. Are you aware of that? The name literally is franchise.

                  This new budget format will allow people to cheat and manipulate the system.

                  In 12 months they announced 2 new developments. Trade logic and making franchise budget easier to manipulate. No year to year saves which is entirely possible because it was in the game previously. I wonder if these full minor rosters they spend time producing are the reason they don't value y2y saves.

                  Either way I'll take a hard pass on mlbts22. First time ever I haven't bought the game.

                  Comment

                  • Funkycorm
                    Cleveland Baseball Guru
                    • Nov 2016
                    • 3159

                    #99
                    Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

                    Originally posted by tessl
                    This is supposed to be franchise mode. You are running a MLB team and A, AA and AAA. Are you aware of that? The name literally is franchise.

                    This new budget format will allow people to cheat and manipulate the system.

                    In 12 months they announced 2 new developments. Trade logic and making franchise budget easier to manipulate. No year to year saves which is entirely possible because it was in the game previously. I wonder if these full minor rosters they spend time producing are the reason they don't value y2y saves.

                    Either way I'll take a hard pass on mlbts22. First time ever I haven't bought the game.
                    So in real MLB, a teams payroll is based off of the 40 man. It now is in the show. If you watch the video, it is only a difference of about $6m between the 2 numbers when they compare.

                    If people want to cheat and manipulate the system to their advantage, they can. They bought the game. If someone wants to cheese the system and make crazy trades in franchise, why can't they?

                    But the difference of $6m a year isn't going to let a small market team go out and trade for Trout and afford his contract. SDS removed the franchise budget buying with stubs last year.

                    As far as y2y. It sucks it is gone. But like the schedule, it is more than simply reapplying the same code each year. It is more than Ctrl c then Ctrl v. It is a big loss. I miss it. But the rosters aren't the cause. Sds knows it is a popular feature that is unique. I am sure they want it back too.

                    And for the record, it took me a while to decide on 22. I disliked 21 and made that clear on here. I thought the budget and trade logic was bad last year. They seemed to have improved it. They do deserve credit for addressing it.
                    Funkycorm

                    Currently Playing:

                    MLB The Show 25 (PS5)
                    Red Dead Redemption 2 (PS4)
                    Pokemon Violet (Switch)


                    Twitch:

                    Twitch


                    Dynasties:

                    None at the moment

                    Comment

                    • EmpireWF
                      Rookie
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 439

                      #100
                      Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

                      Originally posted by tessl
                      This is supposed to be franchise mode. You are running a MLB team and A, AA and AAA. Are you aware of that? The name literally is franchise.

                      This new budget format will allow people to cheat and manipulate the system.
                      What are you talking about? They updated it to be more realistic, now the big league club's team salary is based off the 40 man instead of counting players off the 40 man, too.
                      _______________

                      Comment

                      • countryboy
                        Growing pains
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 52707

                        #101
                        MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

                        Originally posted by tessl
                        This is supposed to be franchise mode. You are running a MLB team and A, AA and AAA. Are you aware of that? The name literally is franchise.



                        This new budget format will allow people to cheat and manipulate the system.



                        In 12 months they announced 2 new developments. Trade logic and making franchise budget easier to manipulate. No year to year saves which is entirely possible because it was in the game previously. I wonder if these full minor rosters they spend time producing are the reason they don't value y2y saves.



                        Either way I'll take a hard pass on mlbts22. First time ever I haven't bought the game.


                        I’m done discussing your ignorance




                        Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
                        I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                        I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


                        Louisville Cardinals/St.Louis Cardinals

                        Comment

                        • Caulfield
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 10986

                          #102
                          Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

                          Originally posted by tessl
                          ...This new budget format will allow people to cheat and manipulate the system...
                          Originally posted by Funkycorm
                          ...If people want to cheat and manipulate the system to their advantage, they can. They bought the game. If someone wants to cheese the system and make crazy trades in franchise, why can't they?...
                          yeah, there have always been ways to manipulate budgets. 1 out of every 6 seasons I play, I like to do a little ''creative bookkeeping'' and see what some unscrupulous GM'ing can get me. but the rest of the time I'm straight as an arrow. best of both worlds I always say
                          OSFM23 - Building Better Baseball - OSFM23

                          A Work in Progress

                          Comment

                          • Dolenz
                            MVP
                            • May 2014
                            • 2056

                            #103
                            Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

                            Originally posted by tessl
                            My biggest issue is they act upon poor advice as to what to upgrade and what to ignore.
                            By poor advice you mean that they did not act on your suggestions and the suggestions of other hardcore franchise people?

                            I assume there are a lot of variables that make it so it is not that cut and dried. The amount of information we don't know in regards to how they make their decisions is vast. Everybody has theories and suspicions but that is all they are.

                            I appreciate Nick doing the interview. It does not sound like franchise is going away anytime soon, even if it does not progress as quickly as many would like. I also understand that he had to be careful with what he said. Nothing bites developers in the backside these days more than making promises of features and time lines that they end up not able to meet.

                            Comment

                            • SmashMan
                              All Star
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 9698

                              #104
                              Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

                              Originally posted by Funkycorm
                              If people want to cheat and manipulate the system to their advantage, they can. They bought the game. If someone wants to cheese the system and make crazy trades in franchise, why can't they?
                              Originally posted by Dolenz
                              By poor advice you mean that they did not act on your suggestions
                              Yeah, these two posts sum up the entire "argument". Some people can't handle it when someone does something differently than they would, be it designing a feature or even simply playing the game.

                              Comment

                              • ChrisUCLA
                                Just started!
                                • Mar 2022
                                • 3

                                #105
                                Re: MLB The Show 22 Developer Reveals Vision For Franchise Mode (Emmdotfrisk)

                                Was it mentioned anywhere whether they had fixed the issue in franchise at the end of the season where the game would automatically send down and call up players?

                                Comment

                                Working...