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  • Firestorm
    Rookie
    • Mar 2022
    • 295

    #16
    Re: Timing hitting back?

    Isn't timing and directional the same thing, minus the ability to influence the swing? Either way, the devs have said in the past that with traditional directional hitting that you're always better off to not influence the swing, so essentially wouldn't that be the same thing as timing?

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    • gman2774
      MVP
      • Mar 2004
      • 1067

      #17
      Re: Timing hitting back?

      Originally posted by Firestorm
      Isn't timing and directional the same thing, minus the ability to influence the swing? Either way, the devs have said in the past that with traditional directional hitting that you're always better off to not influence the swing, so essentially wouldn't that be the same thing as timing?


      Yeah…I’m a little confused too. Lol


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      • jcar0725
        "ADAPT OR DIE"
        • Aug 2010
        • 3819

        #18
        Re: Timing hitting back?

        Originally posted by Firestorm
        Isn't timing and directional the same thing, minus the ability to influence the swing? Either way, the devs have said in the past that with traditional directional hitting that you're always better off to not influence the swing, so essentially wouldn't that be the same thing as timing?
        Thats right. They're the same except for being able to influence the direction of the hit.

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        • COMMISSIONERHBK9
          MVP
          • Dec 2003
          • 4564

          #19
          Re: Timing hitting back?

          I dont know if you guys played the old mlb games but back in the triple play and mvp u just swing and it was based on your timing. The show had that but took it away and techinally if u use directional and dont aim it was timing. But now it by each self and focus on your timing only. And of course the hitters attributes




          Originally posted by Firestorm
          Isn't timing and directional the same thing, minus the ability to influence the swing? Either way, the devs have said in the past that with traditional directional hitting that you're always better off to not influence the swing, so essentially wouldn't that be the same thing as timing?
          Originally posted by gman2774
          Yeah…I’m a little confused too. Lol


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          • DonkeyJote
            All Star
            • Jul 2003
            • 9173

            #20
            Re: Timing hitting back?

            I'm going to be using timing when I start playing on Tuesday. I played a LOT of games testing it in the Tech Test. I've got a starting point for a slider set based on that. The hitting was 7 contact, 4 power, 4 timing, 4 fouls, 5 solid hits on All-Star. I might try All-Star+. Hall of Fame was a no go for me; no matter what sliders I used, contact on pitches outside of the zone was WAY too low.

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            • Feros Ferio 7
              Pro
              • Sep 2016
              • 631

              #21
              Re: Timing hitting back?

              Does the timing work how the analog worked last year in using the PCI or does it not use the PCI?


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              • Doyoueven85
                Rookie
                • Aug 2020
                • 316

                #22
                Re: Timing hitting back?

                Originally posted by Feros Ferio 7
                Does the timing work how the analog worked last year in using the PCI or does it not use the PCI?


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                It uses a pci however I don’t think it displays it on the “Pitch swing feedback “ just like directional. The pci will move on it’s own based on player ratings and user timing.

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                • Feros Ferio 7
                  Pro
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 631

                  #23
                  Re: Timing hitting back?

                  Originally posted by Doyoueven85
                  It uses a pci however I don’t think it displays it on the “Pitch swing feedback “ just like directional. The pci will move on it’s own based on player ratings and user timing.


                  Not seeing it would be great. Hated high vision batters that on a 3-0 count and good timing on a pit h down the middle would have the PCI way out of the zone.


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                  • thedudedominick
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 3794

                    #24
                    Re: Timing hitting back?

                    Count me in the group that likes the idea of timing hitting (reminds me of MVP baseball using timing, and meter pitching), but I want to know what the difference in directional without a direction and timing is.
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                    NCAAF: Ohio State
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                    MLB: Chicago Cubs

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                    • TheWarmWind
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 2620

                      #25
                      Re: Timing hitting back?

                      Originally posted by Firestorm
                      Isn't timing and directional the same thing, minus the ability to influence the swing? Either way, the devs have said in the past that with traditional directional hitting that you're always better off to not influence the swing, so essentially wouldn't that be the same thing as timing?
                      I do not recall them ever saying that.

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                      • Firestorm
                        Rookie
                        • Mar 2022
                        • 295

                        #26
                        Re: Timing hitting back?

                        Originally posted by TheWarmWind
                        I do not recall them ever saying that.

                        I'm pretty sure it's in your hitting thread, but I don't know how to find it. I'll dig through it for their comment if you can post to get it on the main page.

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                        • Firestorm
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2022
                          • 295

                          #27
                          Re: Timing hitting back?

                          Originally posted by TheWarmWind
                          I do not recall them ever saying that.

                          I found it. In your Directional hitting guide, post #652 on page 82 Brian SCEA is quoted by you saying...


                          " (Directional simulates your PCI placement for you and passes it to the engine). In Zone hitting you pick the timing and PCI location. In Directional you pick the timing and influence PCI location (or if you don't influence, it picks for you). For this reason it is better not to influence than to influence randomly and get it half right and half wrong."

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                          • DonkeyJote
                            All Star
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 9173

                            #28
                            Re: Timing hitting back?

                            Originally posted by Firestorm
                            I found it. In your Directional hitting guide, post #652 on page 82 Brian SCEA is quoted by you saying...


                            " (Directional simulates your PCI placement for you and passes it to the engine). In Zone hitting you pick the timing and PCI location. In Directional you pick the timing and influence PCI location (or if you don't influence, it picks for you). For this reason it is better not to influence than to influence randomly and get it half right and half wrong."
                            I guess I was doing Directional wrong. I thought you were influencing groundball/flyball, push/pull not PCI direction. Oops.

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                            • Feros Ferio 7
                              Pro
                              • Sep 2016
                              • 631

                              #29
                              Re: Timing hitting back?

                              Originally posted by DonkeyJote
                              I guess I was doing Directional wrong. I thought you were influencing groundball/flyball, push/pull not PCI direction. Oops.

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                              When I used directional I would get a bunch of lazy fly balls if I didn't press a direction.

                              Felt it forced you to pick one and it didn't work well to be just timing. Pure analog was the closest but felt limited with use of contact swing and I really don't like the PCI being part of the equation. If it's based on ratings and situation under the hood it doesn't bother me so much.


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                              • thedudedominick
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 3794

                                #30
                                Re: Timing hitting back?

                                Could just be me looking for differences, but it seems there's a bigger variety of contact and hits using just timing as opposed to directional.
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                                NCAAF: Ohio State
                                NFL: Minnesota Vikings
                                MLB: Chicago Cubs

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