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  • DonkeyJote
    All Star
    • Jul 2003
    • 9171

    #1

    Changing Closers to Relievers

    I don't know if anyone has done this, but would it screw anything up roster management wise if I changed every "Closing Pitcher" to "Relief Pitcher" as their position? I just think it's really dumb to have them as separate positions, and it'd be easier to manage it.

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  • KnightTemplar
    MVP
    • Feb 2017
    • 3282

    #2
    Re: Changing Closers to Relievers

    Originally posted by DonkeyJote
    I don't know if anyone has done this, but would it screw anything up roster management wise if I changed every "Closing Pitcher" to "Relief Pitcher" as their position? I just think it's really dumb to have them as separate positions, and it'd be easier to manage it.

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    30 team control. I do it. Not sure how the AI handles 2 closers on the team, so I just make the current closer CP and the other RP. Seems fine.

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    • jcar0725
      "ADAPT OR DIE"
      • Aug 2010
      • 3818

      #3
      Re: Changing Closers to Relievers

      The AI will often place the best RP in as the closer spot even if it has a closer on the 26 man.

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      • countryboy
        Growing pains
        • Sep 2003
        • 52720

        #4
        Re: Changing Closers to Relievers

        In the offseason the AI will try to fulfill the closer spot(s) on the roster.

        As jcar said, the AI will move a relief pitcher to the closer role, or use another closer if one on the 26 man roster in the case that the primary closer is struggling.
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        • DonkeyJote
          All Star
          • Jul 2003
          • 9171

          #5
          Re: Changing Closers to Relievers

          Yeah, I do 30 team control, but I let the CPU handle its own roster decisions for the most part (I mostly just try an make sure the lineups and rotations make sense). I had noticed in the past that the CPU didn't see to care much about having a closing pitcher as the closer, so I thought it might be fine. The only thing I thought it might mess up is free agency if the CPU thinks they need closers and can't find any or stuff like All-Star voting. But glad to hear that's not a huge issue.

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          • JoshC1977
            All Star
            • Dec 2010
            • 11564

            #6
            Re: Changing Closers to Relievers

            It'll very likely screw up their drafting. They'll target CP as an organizational need....so they may bypass better options. I always bypassed downloading rosters in the past that did this once I saw the deleterious impact it had. So unless you're making every pick in the draft....

            Rule of thumb - never make wholesale changes to roster construction; it'll cost you.
            Last edited by JoshC1977; 09-08-2022, 07:30 AM.
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            • jcar0725
              "ADAPT OR DIE"
              • Aug 2010
              • 3818

              #7
              Re: Changing Closers to Relievers

              Originally posted by JoshC1977
              It'll very likely screw up their drafting. They'll target CP as an organizational need....so they may bypass better options. I always bypassed downloading rosters in the past that did this once I saw the deleterious impact it had. So unless you're making every pick in the draft....

              Rule of thumb - never make wholesale changes to roster construction; it'll cost you.
              DELETERIOUS ? Impressive....
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              • JoshC1977
                All Star
                • Dec 2010
                • 11564

                #8
                Re: Changing Closers to Relievers

                Originally posted by jcar0725
                DELETERIOUS ? Impressive....
                LOL, my brain was/is in "work mode"....words like that tend to spill-out, lol.
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                • decga
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 2469

                  #9
                  Re: Changing Closers to Relievers

                  What I have been doing while playing my Braves franchise! I do player edits before playing a series vs. the CPU if I notice a CP that's not the assigned closer for the team I changed him from CP to RP. Especially if that CP, stat wise hasn't been a closer IRL or doesn't have a high velo attribute!

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                  • DonkeyJote
                    All Star
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 9171

                    #10
                    Re: Changing Closers to Relievers

                    Originally posted by JoshC1977
                    It'll very likely screw up their drafting. They'll target CP as an organizational need....so they may bypass better options. I always bypassed downloading rosters in the past that did this once I saw the deleterious impact it had. So unless you're making every pick in the draft....

                    Rule of thumb - never make wholesale changes to roster construction; it'll cost you.
                    I'll have to test that when I get to my next draft. I'll make a save before, and if it's bad I'll just reload and temporarily assign closers.

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                    • DarthRambo
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 6630

                      #11
                      Re: Changing Closers to Relievers

                      I actually do this. The only CP is the one who is in that role at the MLB level. Every other is a RP. I did manually draft for each team too though. So that avoided the excessive CP and Catcher draft choices. Just didn't ever scout and drafted completely blind to make it fair. Just drafted based on need of depth and best I could. Took less than a hour to complete the draft.


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                      Last edited by DarthRambo; 09-09-2022, 08:46 PM.
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                      • Jr.
                        Playgirl Coverboy
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 19171

                        #12
                        Re: Changing Closers to Relievers

                        Originally posted by JoshC1977
                        It'll very likely screw up their drafting. They'll target CP as an organizational need....so they may bypass better options. I always bypassed downloading rosters in the past that did this once I saw the deleterious impact it had. So unless you're making every pick in the draft....

                        Rule of thumb - never make wholesale changes to roster construction; it'll cost you.
                        I've found this isn't an issue in my franchise. Changed all CPs to RPs before the first season, 6 drafts in and not one CP has been drafted.

                        Though I also turn scouting to manual for all teams so there's no discovery or actual scouting by any teams

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                        • Jolly Roger
                          Prince of Plakata
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 871

                          #13
                          Re: Changing Closers to Relievers

                          Glad I'm not the only one who hates the "closer" designation instead of just a spot you give to a good relief pitcher. Plus, it separates them from the other relievers on the stats screen, which I don't like.

                          They should just combine all pitchers into one position called "Dudes Who Throw Cheese".

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                          • jcar0725
                            "ADAPT OR DIE"
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 3818

                            #14
                            Re: Changing Closers to Relievers

                            Originally posted by Jolly Roger
                            Glad I'm not the only one who hates the "closer" designation instead of just a spot you give to a good relief pitcher. Plus, it separates them from the other relievers on the stats screen, which I don't like.

                            They should just combine all pitchers into one position called "Dudes Who Throw Cheese".
                            ANY way that they can fix how the AI adjusts its rosters and lineups, I'm all for it .....

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                            • DonkeyJote
                              All Star
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 9171

                              #15
                              Re: Changing Closers to Relievers

                              Originally posted by Jolly Roger
                              Glad I'm not the only one who hates the "closer" designation instead of just a spot you give to a good relief pitcher. Plus, it separates them from the other relievers on the stats screen, which I don't like.

                              They should just combine all pitchers into one position called "Dudes Who Throw Cheese".
                              I think it's so dumb. They're grouped together in DD, so maybe they'll scrap it next year. It's like if they had leadoff hitter as its own position. I wouldn't be upset if they scrapped SP/RP/CP altogether and just had P, and stamina determined what role you put them in.

                              Imo, they could (should) do the same with OF. It should just be one position. Especially for all-star voting and awards. But it's pretty rare these days that someone only plays one OF position.

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