MLB The Show 23 Video - What’s New in Diamond Dynasty

[goillini03]

Re: MLB The Show 23 Video - What’s New in Diamond Dynasty

I have to vent...

Seeing DD-specific threads like this that should be celebrating new information about the new game devolve into a whine-fest every year based on ignorance and mis-information is just truly frustrating and is a black eye for the OS community. As someone who primarily identifies as as a 'franchise guy', it's embarrassing. As someone who also enjoys playing DD and is excited about the little snippets of information and would love to talk about it, I don't feel like I can do so here in any meaningful manner without constantly navigating post after post of attacks on this mode (and people that play it).

You don't like or play DD? That's fine. There are PLENTY modes/features I don't like/care about for this game (MTO, stadium creator, RTTS, etc.) that other people here love. You know what? I keep my yap shut and let them enjoy it. I speak about the games and modes I play and try to support people that play other modes when I feel like my voice can add to theirs.

It blows my mind that so many other people here cannot do this.


Edit: for those of you trying to do the right thing here who don't even play DD, I see you and appreciate you.

So you whine in the same thread that they are whining? Neither is helpful.

[goillini03]

Re: MLB The Show 23 Video - What’s New in Diamond Dynasty

you can get unlimited Show pack in the test, build an interesting team. I loaded up with Orioles and enjoyed it that way

This is the part the interests me with the change. The ability to create a theme team. I just hope that there are multiple ways to create the theme.

I am not sure that I like the idea of some cards being locked at some point. It will all come down to where all you can use the cards for the duration of the year. If there is a way to do ranked seasons, while being able to use your cards like in past games, I will stick that mode.

[breakfastcat]

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So you whine in the same thread that they are whining? Neither is helpful.

He's got a point though. Some people here love to act like those that primarily play DD are beneath them. It's kind of gross.

[bransen]

Re: MLB The Show 23 Video - What’s New in Diamond Dynasty

Proud to say I've never touched DD.

Me neither and never will. Give me some franchise mode news and videos please.

[Caulfield]

Re: MLB The Show 23 Video - What’s New in Diamond Dynasty

Me neither and never will. Give me some franchise mode news and videos please.

nothing wrong with that but you wont get that in this thread

[Karle]

Re: MLB The Show 23 Video - What’s New in Diamond Dynasty

With MLB 22, I played almost exclusively DD (out of frustration for lack of Y2Y roster saves meaning I could not bring my created roster from MLB 21) and my one comment is that in my opinion there are way to many 99s. In view of this a 99 is really not special at all. Thus, I was a bit taken back when in the intro video they said that they were going to make it easier to get that initial 99 diamond.

I do not plan to be spending much time on DD with MLB 23. I am waiting to see 1) how many last names were added to the database and 2) what improvements, if any, were made to the stadium creator.

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[JoshC1977]

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With MLB 22, I played almost exclusively DD and my one comment is that in my opinion there are way to many 99s. In view of this a 99 is really not special at all. Thus, I was a bit taken back when in the intro video they said that they were going to make it easier to get that initial 99 diamond.

One reason why there are so many 99s...they appear to be using the same formula for non-DD areas to calculate the overall, even though in DD, some ratings can hit 125. So, not all 99s are the same quality - some are quite clearly better than others (example: there are two 99 OVR Griffey Jr. cards - one is clearly far better than the other). I'll be honest - I wouldn't mind seeing SDS alter the overall calculation for DD to help better differentiate the upper tier cards.

That said, I'd like to see SDS tone-back the specialty card series usage a lot more this year. For example, the Retro Finest series is a cool concept - but we got WAY too many of them last year. I feel like they really went overboard this season and while I don't want them going back to the MLBTS18 days where there were only a dozen or so 99s, I feel like they need to strike a little better middle ground.

As for the change in paradigm and the possibility of one getting 99 cards early this year - I'm in "wait and see" mode. It's going to depend mightily on the quantity available and what is required to get them. What I think we'll see in the first "season" is only a couple made available (outside of collection rewards). Then that number will increase each season; so we'll still see a "ramp-up". For most people in past years, their first 99 comes from a live series collection reward (and that's usually collecting either the full AL or NL - which is a grind) - for the majority of players, that happens mid-cycle.

[ZoltanZ]

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To each their own, I guess. I have always liked DD and the card collecting aspect. I actually like that they added more 99s so that you don't see the same exact rosters game after game online. I will admit though that I rarely play DD online anymore. The bunt cheese from a few years ago really soured me on playing other people. I mainly stick to offline DD and RTTS because I don't have to invest that much time if I dont want to.

[JoshC1977]

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I actually like that they added more 99s so that you don't see the same exact rosters game after game online.

That was a big issue in MLBTS18 - far too few elite players. So from what I've heard (I'm a strictly offline guy), online in that game was basically many folks using the same rosters.

In 22 though, I felt like they had SO many that for many positions, cards began to feel very "samey" and picking a roster boiled down to personal favorites versus any sort of real strategic decision.

SDS has a tendency to overcompensate for flaws in one game's content layout/paradigm in subsequent years. With respect to high-end cards, I feel like even between 18 and 19, they kind of went overboard even then. Fast forward to 22, they still had not found a middle-ground, and in fact, they went even further the other direction.

Another angle here, I feel like it's easier using better players against better players than it is to use weaker players (and that's universal across all modes). So, from a competitive/skill gap perspective, I have to wonder if some of the concern from that community is partly driven by the relative ease for anyone to obtain a team of high-end players.

In short, I just think we need a bit more moderation...

[Funkycorm]

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For me, DD is a nice change of pace mode. If I am not up to playing a franchise game in a day, I will play some DD. The are some modes in it that are quite fun and can all be played solo. I have never bought anything will real money but with some play time I usually can get a team in the mid to high 80s overall.

As far as the discussion above: users can play both and enjoy it. Plus, both sides of the resource argument can't directly prove their points as none of us work for the studio. Without DD, would the employees who work on DD focus on franchise mode? No one can answer that because again we don't work at the studio.

So what exactly is the point in arguing this topic? Why not just focus on the positive and constructive feedback for both modes?

And in all honesty, while needing some TLC, franchise mode in the show is one of the better ones and has been for a while.

My point is, in the end, play what you want and don't judge others for what they play. And don't blame other user bases of modes for destroying another mode.

[Caulfield]

Re: MLB The Show 23 Video - What’s New in Diamond Dynasty

With MLB 22, I played almost exclusively DD (out of frustration for lack of Y2Y roster saves meaning I could not bring my created roster from MLB 21) and my one comment is that in my opinion there are way to many 99s. In view of this a 99 is really not special at all. Thus, I was a bit taken back when in the intro video they said that they were going to make it easier to get that initial 99 diamond.

I do not plan to be spending much time on DD with MLB 23. I am waiting to see 1) how many last names were added to the database and 2) what improvements, if any, were made to the stadium creator.

Sent from my CLT-L29 using Operation Sports mobile app

what i like about all 99s is, not all 99s are actually equal.
one guy can have 101 vision and his vision not be as great as a guy with 117 vision.
and only the discerning saavy teambuilder will realise this.
the majority of folks will just see that 99 overall, and think "good enough" lol

[loungefly85]

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I have to vent...

Seeing DD-specific threads like this that should be celebrating new information about the new game devolve into a whine-fest every year based on ignorance and mis-information is just truly frustrating and is a black eye for the OS community. As someone who primarily identifies as as a 'franchise guy', it's embarrassing. As someone who also enjoys playing DD and is excited about the little snippets of information and would love to talk about it, I don't feel like I can do so here in any meaningful manner without constantly navigating post after post of attacks on this mode (and people that play it).

You don't like or play DD? That's fine. There are PLENTY modes/features I don't like/care about for this game (MTO, stadium creator, RTTS, etc.) that other people here love. You know what? I keep my yap shut and let them enjoy it. I speak about the games and modes I play and try to support people that play other modes when I feel like my voice can add to theirs.

It blows my mind that so many other people here cannot do this.


Edit: for those of you trying to do the right thing here who don't even play DD, I see you and appreciate you.

I think the reason DD negatively fires people up, including me, is that it is seeping into the rest of the game. They absolutely gutted and ruined RTTS in 21 and didn’t really fix it for the better in 22, all because they want to integrate DD into it.

DD was fine as a mode years ago because it didn’t affect other modes. Now DD has infected RTTS and will probably worm its way into franchise eventually.

If people like opening fake little card packs to make fake teams and play challenges, that’s cool. To each their own. Everyone should have a mode they enjoy.

However, some of us have no desire to play a glorified card collecting game and want to play MLB games via immersion through Franchise and/or RTTS. The problem is SDS is obviously trying to blend modes slowly together because they absolutely want to drive as many people as possible to DD (remember the leaked internal EA FIFA memo “all roads lead to FUT”).

It’s ridiculous that to progress a RTTS player, I need to open stupid card packs. That is a direct result of DD integration and people have a right to be aggravated and trash a mode that has made sports games worse across all sports. So yes, screw these card modes.

[JoshC1977]

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I think the reason DD negatively fires people up, including me, is that it is seeping into the rest of the game. They absolutely gutted and ruined RTTS in 21 and didn’t really fix it for the better in 22, all because they want to integrate DD into it.

For what it's worth -

a) my comments were pointed specifically towards franchise
b) I 1000% agree with you on the negative impacts on RTTS that they have introduced. (I also fundamentally don't think CAPs belong in DD at all - but that is a different discussion altogether)

If you're a RTTS player, you totally have a reason to be peeved at SDS' design philosophy in trying to combine it with DD the last two years. I totally have your back on that.

[bcruise]

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Busy day for Sony today (granted these are probably both pre-recorded) - State of Play an hour from now followed by the Diamond Dynasty preview.

[breakfastcat]

Re: MLB The Show 23 Video - What’s New in Diamond Dynasty

If people like opening fake little card packs to make fake teams and play challenges

I feel like you could've easily made your point (one that I 100% agree with) without resorting to infantilizing the mode and the people who play it. But hey maybe that's just me.