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  • DarthRambo
    MVP
    • Mar 2008
    • 6630

    #1

    Let's talk clutch rating

    So we all know by now that when there are RISP the clutch attributes "takes over" is the phrase I kept hearing. Pitching clutch and the batter's clutch rating.

    Press right on the d-pad when you're hitting or pitching with RISP. What you'll see is the batter's contact attribute is replaced with their clutch attribute. The pitcher's BB/9 attribute is replaced by the pitching clutch attribute.

    Does this mean literally the player's contact and bb/9 attributes are equal to their clutch rating? So now my 70 contact vs lefties with 90 clutch is now 90 contact for that AB? My pitcher with 85 BB/9 with 35 clutch is now going to have trouble throwing a strike with 35 BB/9?

    OR are they adding the two attributes together and using an average? It's very confusing, and Idk if it's ever been defined and explained yet. Does anyone have any idea how it actually works? I love the idea, but I'm not sure how it is implemented in the game.

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  • Jr.
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    • Feb 2003
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    #2
    Re: Let's talk clutch rating

    I thought in the stream they did, they said it replaced the contact rating but I may be remembering that wrong

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    • Willis135
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      • Jan 2010
      • 601

      #3
      Re: Let's talk clutch rating

      Originally posted by Jr.
      I thought in the stream they did, they said it replaced the contact rating but I may be remembering that wrong

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      This is how I understand d it, and is the reason why I have high clutch guys on my bench

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      • CBoller1331
        It Appears I Blue Myself
        • Dec 2013
        • 3082

        #4
        Re: Let's talk clutch rating

        Hitting clutch replaces the CONR/CONL w/ RISP and pitching clutch replaces the H/9 w/RISP. It's not an average of the two

        I believe they said that platoon splits still play a role, but I'm not sure how. On the surface the CLT rating shows up the same regardless of the pitchers handedness, so maybe there's something under the hood that affects the PCI
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        • DarthRambo
          MVP
          • Mar 2008
          • 6630

          #5
          Re: Let's talk clutch rating

          Originally posted by CBoller1331
          Hitting clutch replaces the CONR/CONL w/ RISP and pitching clutch replaces the H/9 w/RISP. It's not an average of the two



          I believe they said that platoon splits still play a role, but I'm not sure how. On the surface the CLT rating shows up the same regardless of the pitchers handedness, so maybe there's something under the hood that affects the PCI
          When you hit right on d pad the pitching clutch shows replacing the BB/9 though. Bug or what? I noticed a more difficult time locating so I'm thinking that's how it works.

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          • El_MaYiMbE
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            • Mar 2003
            • 1427

            #6
            Re: Let's talk clutch rating

            Yes, this is how I understood it.
            Based on your example:

            Hitter - 99 Clutch replaces contact and is now the "new contact"
            Pitcher - 35 Clutch replaces BB/9 and is now the new "BB/9"

            Originally posted by DarthRambo
            So we all know by now that when there are RISP the clutch attributes "takes over" is the phrase I kept hearing. Pitching clutch and the batter's clutch rating.

            Press right on the d-pad when you're hitting or pitching with RISP. What you'll see is the batter's contact attribute is replaced with their clutch attribute. The pitcher's BB/9 attribute is replaced by the pitching clutch attribute.

            Does this mean literally the player's contact and bb/9 attributes are equal to their clutch rating? So now my 70 contact vs lefties with 90 clutch is now 90 contact for that AB? My pitcher with 85 BB/9 with 35 clutch is now going to have trouble throwing a strike with 35 BB/9?

            OR are they adding the two attributes together and using an average? It's very confusing, and Idk if it's ever been defined and explained yet. Does anyone have any idea how it actually works? I love the idea, but I'm not sure how it is implemented in the game.

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            • bryanm1982
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              • Nov 2016
              • 3788

              #7
              Re: Let's talk clutch rating

              This is what Steve wrote in his article after the stream on gameplay.

              A complete change was made to the clutch attribute making it more meaningful. They wanted to highlight the players that tend to make impactful hits or pitches in crucial situations. On the hitting side with runners in scoring position clutch is a direct replacement for contact. For pitchers, pitching clutch replaces hits per 9 with RISP.
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              • CBoller1331
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                • Dec 2013
                • 3082

                #8
                Re: Let's talk clutch rating

                Originally posted by El_MaYiMbE
                Yes, this is how I understood it.
                Based on your example:

                Hitter - 99 Clutch replaces contact and is now the "new contact"
                Pitcher - 35 Clutch replaces BB/9 and is now the new "BB/9"
                hmmm thought they said it was H/9 in the stream, I don't remember anything about BB/9....maybe I'm misremembering though
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                • bryanm1982
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                  • Nov 2016
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                  Re: Let's talk clutch rating

                  Originally posted by CBoller1331
                  hmmm thought they said it was H/9 in the stream, I don't remember anything about BB/9....maybe I'm misremembering though
                  In the review article that Steve wrote it said H/9. And I remembered them saying H/9.
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                  • decga
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                    • Mar 2004
                    • 2469

                    #10
                    Re: Let's talk clutch rating

                    I was playing an exhibition game on my Xbox-X, Marlins vs. Braves. Jazz came up to the plate with runners in scoring position. I hit up on the D-pad, the right side of the screen where they have the next 3 batters coming up. Jazz instead of saying (Contact and Power) it stated a CLUTCH rating of 90 something.

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                    • DarthRambo
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                      • Mar 2008
                      • 6630

                      #11
                      Re: Let's talk clutch rating

                      Originally posted by CBoller1331
                      hmmm thought they said it was H/9 in the stream, I don't remember anything about BB/9....maybe I'm misremembering though
                      It appears the UI is just bugged. When you press right on d pad with RISP the pitching clutch replaces the BB/9 instead of H/9. But in reality it is replacing the H/9 attribute. Well we hope anyway. Until this bug is patched and we visually see it then we don't know 100% what it's doing for the pitcher. Thanks for everyone's reply. My question has been answered.

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                      • decga
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                        • Mar 2004
                        • 2469

                        #12
                        Re: Let's talk clutch rating

                        I just re-watch the stream that talks about Clutch!

                        Ok, with RISP "CLUTCH" replaces H/9 for pitchers.

                        "CLUTCH" replaces Contact L/R for the batter with RISP.

                        So I guess it only comes into play with RISP, now SDS did not mentioned what the number should be to trigger it. But I also the info is in the digital handbook.

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                        • Caulfield
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                          • Apr 2011
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                          #13
                          Re: Let's talk clutch rating

                          isnt the clutch rating more important for pitchers than everyday position players?
                          reason I ask, I might consider setting all batters clutch to 25,
                          and all pitchers clutch to 50.
                          wonder what kind of impact that would have
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                          • DarthRambo
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                            • Mar 2008
                            • 6630

                            #14
                            Re: Let's talk clutch rating

                            Originally posted by Caulfield
                            isnt the clutch rating more important for pitchers than everyday position players?

                            reason I ask, I might consider setting all batters clutch to 25,

                            and all pitchers clutch to 50.

                            wonder what kind of impact that would have
                            Interesting idea. Wouldn't this mean the batter would essentially have 25 contact rating with RISP though? Your rbis would take a significant downfall if so. Never really understood how the pitcher's h/9 effected the batter if at all though.

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                            • Funkycorm
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                              • Nov 2016
                              • 3159

                              #15
                              Re: Let's talk clutch rating

                              Originally posted by Caulfield
                              isnt the clutch rating more important for pitchers than everyday position players?
                              reason I ask, I might consider setting all batters clutch to 25,
                              and all pitchers clutch to 50.
                              wonder what kind of impact that would have
                              What I am debating doing once I start my keeper futures franchise is this:

                              For pitchers: Their clutch matches their H/9
                              For hitters: Their clutch is the average of their contact R and contact L.

                              Still haven't decided as I want a good sample size for it. But I would have to weigh the pros and cons of doing this as I can think of multiple pros and cons immediately.

                              Still up for much internal debate though I am sure of that. The one thing I am sure of here.
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