Too many strikeouts

[DarthRambo]

Re: Too many strikeouts

Well, it's back to default hof. I'm tired of trying to find a solution. I will start my chise and let the strikeouts fall where they may.

Yeah I've just decided to roll with it myself. Found that Allstar pitching with cpu contact at 7 or 8 works great for balance of cpu being threatening still. I will still have many games of 13-15Ks but it is what it is. Striking out the Angels 19 times with the Orioles should never happen but it did for me.

I tried default legend and it's the same thing. 16Ks once, but always above 10. Raising contact for legend doesn't help cause now most of your outs have to be strikeouts cause the cpu will knock 10+ hits easily most games.

Allstar with cpu contact at 7 and cpu timing at 7 for us anyway has been the best balance. Cpu will hit, but also able to shut them down. Strikeouts will always be high overall, but I'm able to have games under 10Ks sometimes at least. I'm just pretending half my Ks are in play outs and ignoring their BABIP lol. It's the game they gave us this year and while it sucks, I'm glad we found something we can work with and live with the results.

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[GAMEBREAKER85]

Re: Too many strikeouts

I've been pitching on Legend and raising every cpu hitting slider to 6 & my control to 4...

You have to raise the foul ball frequency, I'm shocked I haven't read more people are doing that in their sliders when the developers lowered the foul ball frequency to appease the masses.

[cubby blue]

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I've been pitching on Legend and raising every cpu hitting slider to 6 & my control to 4...

You have to raise the foul ball frequency, I'm shocked I haven't read more people are doing that in their sliders when the developers lowered the foul ball frequency to appease the masses.

I would get tagged..lol. I tried legend default and it's not for me.

I can deal with hof for pitching and hitting.

[DarthRambo]

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I've been pitching on Legend and raising every cpu hitting slider to 6 & my control to 4...



You have to raise the foul ball frequency, I'm shocked I haven't read more people are doing that in their sliders when the developers lowered the foul ball frequency to appease the masses.

That slider doesn't make them make more contact. Raising it only makes a ball hit in play lean more foul than fair. Lowering it will cause balls hit in play land fair. While that same hit ball would be foul if it were raised.

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[GAMEBREAKER85]

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I disagree with that personally. Like saying Pass Interference sliders back in the day didn't have multiple effects on gameplay in football games.

Saying it only impacts fair/foul balls is like saying turn it to 10 and watch it take a ball and bend it foul like a banana. There still is a huge influence of other sliders working together on each swing/result.

The sliders have to correlate with one another; Swing Timing/Contact/FBallFreQ. all have such similar "interests" to achieve results you can't say a particular slider has singular influence - I just can't buy into that personally. (I don't care what the slider display says at the top of the screen; played too many video games since sliders were introduced in the late 90s)

My personal belief is it does increase the chance of making contact and hitting a foul ball/foul tip on swings where on default settings may have been a swing & miss. Could lower the foul ball setting to 0 and test it, but I'm not that desperate to prove a point.

*Get more foul balls = Get pitch counts higher which then = lower effectiveness/tired pitchers which then = a more dangerous CPU. <<< THEN... your pitchers start to drag without days off; over-use them and by the next series your praying a starter can give you 7-8 innings OR you may stretch your starter extra pitches to save your bullpen which results in a bad inning + momentum build up for CPU and before you know it you lost 2 of 3 to the Royals and your hoping you have a day off in the schedule. #Correlation.

[countryboy]

Re: Too many strikeouts

That slider doesn't make them make more contact. Raising it only makes a ball hit in play lean more foul than fair. Lowering it will cause balls hit in play land fair. While that same hit ball would be foul if it were raised.

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The in game description of the slider states:

....."Shift this slider to the right to increase fouls on borderline swings and hits that would have landed just fair."

So in regards to the bolded it allows the hitter to make contact on swings that without the raised slider, would've been swings and misses.

[DarthRambo]

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I disagree with that personally. Like saying Pass Interference sliders back in the day didn't have multiple effects on gameplay in football games.

Saying it only impacts fair/foul balls is like saying turn it to 10 and watch it take a ball and bend it foul like a banana. There still is a huge influence of other sliders working together on each swing/result.

The sliders have to correlate with one another; Swing Timing/Contact/FBallFreQ. all have such similar "interests" to achieve results you can't say a particular slider has singular influence - I just can't buy into that personally. (I don't care what the slider display says at the top of the screen; played too many video games since sliders were introduced in the late 90s)

My personal belief is it does increase the chance of making contact and hitting a foul ball/foul tip on swings where on default settings may have been a swing & miss. Could lower the foul ball setting to 0 and test it, but I'm not that desperate to prove a point.

*Get more foul balls = Get pitch counts higher which then = lower effectiveness/tired pitchers which then = a more dangerous CPU. <<< THEN... your pitchers start to drag without days off; over-use them and by the next series your praying a starter can give you 7-8 innings OR you may stretch your starter extra pitches to save your bullpen which results in a bad inning + momentum build up for CPU and before you know it you lost 2 of 3 to the Royals and your hoping you have a day off in the schedule. #Correlation.

Fair enough. But I've always put that slider at 0 every year except this year we left it at 5. I just know from years of having it at 0 it causes hits down the line etc. Strikeouts, swing and misses did not increase because of it. So many think sliders are far too complicated than they really are. I have tested most things at 0 and 10 over the years and the sliders are very simple with how they actually work from my experience.

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[GAMEBREAKER85]

Re: Too many strikeouts

One thing about The Show, it is one of the best sport titles consistently at playing on default difficulties you choose. Some games are an absolute disaster and takes so much tinkering it makes men go mad.

I can def. say User Pitch Control at 4 instead of 5 has my walk totals much higher & if I wanted to go clear down to Control 3 - I would lose my freaking mind b/c so many pitches at 4 are off their intended "zone/mark".

[Jayyd11]

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Might be just me but I feel like raising human control actually helps the cpu. I’m using SnB slider and I have user control at 6 and consistency @2 and the cpu hitting improved a lot. Just played 2 games of the first series against the Mets. the first games vs the Mets with Miami first game with the base sliders they have 3/2 the Mets barely put up anything they won 3-2 next game raised user control to 6 & dropped pitch stamina back to 5/5 for both user and cpu, the Mets dropped 10 runs only 8 k. I’m going to play against more teams to see if it was just a outliner. Also umpire on perfect the other was calling strikes that was clearly a ball and I felt like that had a input on the cpu swinging at everything

[baseballguy99]

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One thing about The Show, it is one of the best sport titles consistently at playing on default difficulties you choose. Some games are an absolute disaster and takes so much tinkering it makes men go mad.

I can def. say User Pitch Control at 4 instead of 5 has my walk totals much higher & if I wanted to go clear down to Control 3 - I would lose my freaking mind b/c so many pitches at 4 are off their intended "zone/mark".

What pitching interface do you use? How high did you raise their foul ball rate ?

[GAMEBREAKER85]

Re: Too many strikeouts

Meter (Which I'm having some issues with Framerate so is a pain in the butt at times)

Legend Pitching Difficulty
Hum. Pitch Control 4
CPU Contact 6, Power 7, Timing 6, Solid Hits 4, Foul Ball 6

*Still second in MLB in Team K's through 10 Franchise Games
(Played a ton of exhibition games waiting on Tatis Roster Update)

*But am in the middle of the pack in walks issued at least, but second in strikeouts still, & top 10 in ERA; consistently have to get to 90+ pitches to survive 5-6 innings with my starter. I think the strikeouts from a MLB ranking perspective is out of context b/c the strikeout numbers are low for simulated computer games.

Team Record 6-4 w/ Padres (I made Tatis Injured so he'd serve his real life suspension)

[bronxbombers21325]

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It doesn't help that almost all check swings are called strikes. Also there's a ridiculous amount of K's on taken pitches. I'll throw two outside the zone, which will be swung on with no chance of making contact. Then they'll stand and watch strike 3 straight down the middle. All of the strike outs are getting more frustrating every time I play.

[bryanm1982]

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It doesn't help that almost all check swings are called strikes. Also there's a ridiculous amount of K's on taken pitches. I'll throw two outside the zone, which will be swung on with no chance of making contact. Then they'll stand and watch strike 3 straight down the middle. All of the strike outs are getting more frustrating every time I play.

Whatever SDS did this year when they made it easier to strikeout was they either went too extreme or it is affecting the AI's approach at the plate. Last year we had to tone down some sliders to get more K's. This year we have to bump up sliders to get less K's. And then you go too high and they have games where they score 10 runs on 16 hits with 18 strikeouts.

[Grinder12000]

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MoM and I'm getting about 30Ks a game for both teams and PS4 is totally broken. I'm about to give up. Tried 3 separate sliders and even SEVERALY bumped up player sliders which don't seem to do anything at all.

And REALLY how many times on a full count will a batter take a strike down the middle I'm MoM and it totally sucks for the managers team

[bronxbombers21325]

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MoM and I'm getting about 30Ks a game for both teams and PS4 is totally broken. I'm about to give up. Tried 3 separate sliders and even SEVERALY bumped up player sliders which don't seem to do anything at all.

And REALLY how many times on a full count will a batter take a strike down the middle I'm MoM and it totally sucks for the managers team

The hitting this year is the best it's ever been. But they completely screwed pitching up to the point that I'm almost done with it.