MLB The Show 23 Patch #9 Available Today - Patch Notes

[moemoe24]

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Yes

It’s not as frequent as with the previous commentary team but it’s increasing as they progress and build up the commentary.


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I dont hear it much and dont think ive heard
It all this year. I was hoping formit yesterday as the first game of a series against cubs i was up 4-1 bottom 9 and
Got beat by a grand alam. I thought boog would mention it but no dice

[DonkeyJote]

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A's catcher Carlos Perez still has his number missing on his uniform. Patch 8 screwed this up but Patch 9 ignored it unless it was corrected with a roster update. I'm still using the updated rosters from when they put back Tatis Jr. as there are still some players missing from that obviously.

That's really weird. Because I'm also using the rosters from when Tatis was added (with equipment edits, but that was the base), and he's still got his number for me in franchise. I checked in exhibition too, and he's got it there too.

As far as pitching, I'm also on Legend now (CPU Contact 6, Power 7, Timing 5, Fouls 5, Solid Hits 4) and getting good results. If anything, CPU chase and whiff rates are a little low for me; CPU is only averaging a chase of 24.8% of pitches out of the zone (avg 32.6), and the SwStr % is only 9.1% (11% is avg) and I'm only getting 6.5 k/9.

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[countryboy]

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I’m seeing the full batter walk up banner more often after this patch. Also seeing it pop up more with split stats


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[ShowTyme15]

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That's really weird. Because I'm also using the rosters from when Tatis was added (with equipment edits, but that was the base), and he's still got his number for me in franchise. I checked in exhibition too, and he's got it there too.

As far as pitching, I'm also on Legend now (CPU Contact 6, Power 7, Timing 5, Fouls 5, Solid Hits 4) and getting good results. If anything, CPU chase and whiff rates are a little low for me; CPU is only averaging a chase of 24.8% of pitches out of the zone (avg 32.6), and the SwStr % is only 9.1% (11% is avg) and I'm only getting 6.5 k/9.

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The jersey number glitch goes away once you start a franchise.

[DonkeyJote]

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The jersey number glitch goes away once you start a franchise.

He had his number in Exhibition too.

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[ShowTyme15]

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He had his number in Exhibition too.

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Some guys will in exhibition and some wont. But once you start a franchise the numbers will appear no matter what. That's all I was trying to say.

[Detroit Tigers]

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I guess my skill level is just too good then idk?

This is exactly what I think it is. There’s plenty of RNG going on but for the vast majority of situations I think the game gives you exactly what you deserve, i.e., you get filthy Ks when your sequence was filthy, and you get hit when your sequence sucked or the pitcher misses his spot.

In any event, a way to mitigate this is to just stop going for Ks and start going for 3-pitch innings instead, i.e., pitch to contact more often.

It’s also worth noting that keeping the AI hitters a bit weak makes sense insofar as if they weren’t they’d be blasting you for 8+ runs every game. It’s gotta at least be *sorta* easy to hold them to 4 runs or less or you risk allowing 7+ runs every game. I’ve been there and it sucks way worse than getting “too many” Ks.

[bcruise]

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This is exactly what I think it is. There’s plenty of RNG going on but for the vast majority of situations I think the game gives you exactly what you deserve, i.e., you get filthy Ks when your sequence was filthy, and you get hit when your sequence sucked or the pitcher misses his spot.

In any event, a way to mitigate this is to just stop going for Ks and start going for 3-pitch innings instead, i.e., pitch to contact more often.

It’s also worth noting that keeping the AI hitters a bit weak makes sense insofar as if they weren’t they’d be blasting you for 8+ runs every game. It’s gotta at least be *sorta* easy to hold them to 4 runs or less or you risk allowing 7+ runs every game. I’ve been there and it sucks way worse than getting “too many” Ks.

Here's an outside-the-box suggestion based on the bold - if it's too difficult to force yourself to pitch to contact with no downside, why not try lowering user stamina such that you can't go deeper into games with long counts/at-bats without taking a big performance hit? It seems especially relevant for quick counts which is what I believe the person DT was responding to uses, since many of the pitches in a QC game are simulated. Honestly I wouldn't even look at pitch counts in QC and focus only on what energy (green/yellow bar) looks like mid-game - that's what matters when you look 5 days down the schedule at a pitcher's next start, and determines whether they're able to recover to full.

[405Cowboy]

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That's really weird. Because I'm also using the rosters from when Tatis was added (with equipment edits, but that was the base), and he's still got his number for me in franchise. I checked in exhibition too, and he's got it there too.

As far as pitching, I'm also on Legend now (CPU Contact 6, Power 7, Timing 5, Fouls 5, Solid Hits 4) and getting good results. If anything, CPU chase and whiff rates are a little low for me; CPU is only averaging a chase of 24.8% of pitches out of the zone (avg 32.6), and the SwStr % is only 9.1% (11% is avg) and I'm only getting 6.5 k/9.

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I'm on PS4. However with the latest roster update, his numbers are back on his uniform. I'm not gonna create new rosters and take time to edit everyone's proper colors/accessories etc until playoff time then I'll use the final update.

[steelerfan]

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Foul frequency doesn't cause more contact on the ball with bat. Doesn't make them foul off pitches they otherwise wouldn't. Nonetheless I've tried it at 10 and it's still so many swing and miss by the cpu. A lot of chasing pitches, and a lot of terrible timed swings (even with timing at 10). It's completely different from the last two years unfortunately.

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I won't dispute what you're saying at all. I don't know enough about the sliders in The Show to say exactly what they do. I'll take your word for it.

Through 91 games with Houston, I have struck out 752 batters, which, while leading the league, is 8.26 per game.

I do wonder if the additional foul balls I have lead to higher pitch counts and fatigue, and that affects the Ks I'm seeing.

Additionally, and maybe more importantly, I stick to the catcher's suggested pitch type and location most of the time. That could be a reason why my Ks are reasonable as well.

It's interesting (confounding, perhaps) that results for different people are so wildly different.

I've had my own pitching troubles, despite the good bits (like not striking out 12-15 per game). My ERA is 28th at 4.64, for example, which has led to a 44-47 record.

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[PhlliesPhan6]

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I won't dispute what you're saying at all. I don't know enough about the sliders in The Show to say exactly what they do. I'll take your word for it.

Through 91 games with Houston, I have struck out 752 batters, which, while leading the league, is 8.26 per game.

I do wonder if the additional foul balls I have lead to higher pitch counts and fatigue, and that affects the Ks I'm seeing.

Additionally, and maybe more importantly, I stick to the catcher's suggested pitch type and location most of the time. That could be a reason why my Ks are reasonable as well.

It's interesting (confounding, perhaps) that results for different people are so wildly different.

I've had my own pitching troubles, despite the good bits (like not striking out 12-15 per game). My ERA is 28th at 4.64, for example, which has led to a 44-47 record.

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Yeah. I'm using S&B Sliders and I'm not getting a ton of strikeouts like everyone else. I have to check my latest rankings but my team was middle of the pack for strikeouts. I struggle to ever get double digit strikeouts per game. Mainly using catcher suggestions.

[countryboy]

MLB The Show 23 Patch #9 Available Today - Patch Notes

Just finished my second season using default sliders on legend with meter pitching playing every game

I finished with 1,278 strikeouts (7.88 per game) which ranked 5th.

Leader was Brewers with 1,364 (8.4 per game)


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[DonkeyJote]

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Out of curiosity, I pitched a game (on legend with some slider adjustments) with Foul Frequency at 0, and another at 10. Those were the only changes. I used the same starting pitcher (Charlie Morton, 61 k/9). Intended to use the same relievers, but Morton ended up at 100 pitches after 5 innings in the second test, so had to use a couple extra guys. So I used Kirby Yates (77 k/9) and Nick Anderson (76) in the 2nd game and AJ Minter (73) and Raisel Iglesias (84) in both games. Both games were against the Mets at Truist Park, in June with a 7pm start.

In the first game with Foul Frequency at 0, I struck out 9. The CPU fouls/strikes was 33.6% (MLB range is 26.6-29), Contact rate was 67.7% (MLB is 73.9-79.7), and the SwStr% was 16.4% (MLB is 9.2-12.6).

With Foul Frequency at 10, I struck out 5. Fouls/strikes was 19.5, Contact rate was 82.7%, SwStr% was 8.5%.

Obviously, small sample size. But the numbers for this sample do suggest that lower Foul Frequency leads to more swings and misses. As far as just "feel", the game at 10 foul frequency felt a lot more stressful. Even though the results were similar (I gave up 3 runs and 6 hits at 0, 4 runs and 7 hits at 10), 0 did feel quite a bit easier. I threw 122 pitches in the first game, 153 in the second.

One thing I noticed that surprised me (but also kinda makes sense) is that the CPU plate discipline seemed worse at 0. I say that makes sense just because if Foul Frequency effectively works as a vision modifier, I could see it impacting plate discipline. With Foul Frequency at 0, the CPU chased on 38.6% of pitches out of the zone. I've been playing in my franchise at 5, and have actually had a difficult time getting the CPU to chase enough. That's the first time since I switched to legend and started tracking this that I've seen the CPU over 29. For reference, MLB range is 29.9-35.6. With Foul Frequency at 10, they were back down to 26.6. Also 23% of my pitches were called Strikes with Foul at 0. That's the first time I've seen it over 19% (MLB range is 14.5-18.2). It was back down to a more typical 16.3% with Foul Frequency at 10. Obviously it's just one game, and it could just be a coincidence. But if the CPU chases more, that would definitely cause more K's.

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[GAMEBREAKER85]

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It literally says in the slider description for foul frequency - “… shift to the right to increase fouls on BORDERLINE SWINGS AND hits that would have landed just fair. … BUT also PROTECT them on 2 strikes.”

Foul Frequency increases the chances a bad swing that would have been a miss will have a greater chance of being fouled off. It doesn’t just impact whether a ball lands fair or foul.

Now the only issue is - if you raise it too high; then a very soft-computer hitting attack that this game is will cost them a lot of hits and extra-base hit b/c the foul frequency works along the timing slider.

What a pain in the arse this game is this year!

[DonkeyJote]

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It literally says in the slider description for foul frequency - “… shift to the right to increase fouls on BORDERLINE SWINGS AND hits that would have landed just fair. … BUT also PROTECT them on 2 strikes.”



Foul Frequency increases the chances a bad swing that would have been a miss will have a greater chance of being fouled off. It doesn’t just impact whether a ball lands fair or foul.



Now the only issue is - if you raise it too high; then a very soft-computer hitting attack that this game is will cost them a lot of hits and extra-base hit b/c the foul frequency works along the timing slider.



What a pain in the arse this game is this year!

I'm my comparison, CPU Avg Exit Velocity was actually slightly higher with Foul Frequency at 10 than it was at 0, though Hard Hit rate was lower.

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